They look like love bites.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Smith saying he felt weak at the weight, he will move up in weight.
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They look like love bites.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Smith saying he felt weak at the weight, he will move up in weight.
Feels like the first in-ring interviews with a live crowd that we've seen in months. Nice.
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Chances he'll do that are slim and none. Now... you want to add a quip as to why I feel that way? Seems to be a pattern there with you, sport.
just keep lining them up. billy joe, caleb, david. then he can move up again. hopefully some of these fighters will fight each other. canelo can't do all the work
Alvarez looks better and better. He dealt with a massive height and reach disadvantage like it was nothing and his defence is a massive plus point for him these days. Very impressive. I wonder if he'll actually fight Beterbiev anytime soon.
No.
Anyone giving Smith a chance was kidding themselves, he lost to John Ryder so he was never going to be able to beat Canelo.
Just proves what a wonderful fighter Floyd Mayweather really was to beat Canelo.
To bad kovalev liked the vodka so much....don't like canelo since the ggg gift but he's really good
Post of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Old, past it 36 year old Floyd.
did anyone in smith's corner tell him to stop laying on the ropes?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Fixed it for ya. ;)
Truth is Floyd had numerous fights that were tougher for him than Canelo. He gave Canelo a boxing masterclass, shutting him out 12 rounds to none. Canelo had no business being in the ring against Floyd.
But yeah... Floyd was a wonderful fighter.
This is going to boil Masters piss when he reads thisQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Fixed it for ya. ;)
Truth is Floyd had numerous fights that were tougher for him than Canelo. He gave Canelo a boxing masterclass, shutting him out 12 rounds to none. Canelo had no business being in the ring against Floyd.
But yeah... Floyd was a wonderful fighter.
FTR Canelo was green when he faced Floyd. He also had to boil down to a stipulated weight never mind the injections in the hands and IV that Mayweather is allowed in Vegas.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Fixed it for ya. ;)
Truth is Floyd had numerous fights that were tougher for him than Canelo. He gave Canelo a boxing masterclass, shutting him out 12 rounds to none. Canelo had no business being in the ring against Floyd.
But yeah... Floyd was a wonderful fighter.
This is going to boil Masters piss when he reads this
Canelo only hope was having another CJ Ross.
At post fight interview, someone asked about Canelo going to Cruiserweight.
A laugh and a smirk dispelled that notion.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Yes indeed Al. I watched Smith give away his height advantage by crouching and leaning in, allowing Canelo to dictate the distance that the fight was to be fought within, (taking away all his leverage) then his utter contempt for Smiths power. Alvarez did whatever he wanted to do in there, aided by a sadly inept showing by Smith who was just in survival mode after the 9th.
The size difference was comical at times, but it had no bearing at all. It was a man against a boy in there.
Stright afterwards, I watched Mayweather against Alvarez. Jesus, what a fighter Floyd was. Brilliant against an admittedly pre-roided to the gills Canelo. It's painfully obvious when you look at the changes in his physique!
Mayweather stood right in the pocket, like Don Curry used to do, countered Canelo until he was gun shy. Controlled the ring, astonishing reflexes and technique and superb fitness and stamina.
Great list of excuses. Now do PacquiaoQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFTR Canelo was green when he faced Floyd. He also had to boil down to a stipulated weight never mind the injections in the hands and IV that Mayweather is allowed in Vegas.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Fixed it for ya. ;)
Truth is Floyd had numerous fights that were tougher for him than Canelo. He gave Canelo a boxing masterclass, shutting him out 12 rounds to none. Canelo had no business being in the ring against Floyd.
But yeah... Floyd was a wonderful fighter.
This is going to boil Masters piss when he reads this
Canelo only hope was having another CJ Ross.
what was Smith thinking? You cant win fights if you dont throw punches.
Canelo is making Floyd look better, without doubt, however, he's clearly much improved since the Floyd fight, which obviously was a huge benefit for him. Apart from Golovkin no-one below 175 (Bivol, Beterbiev) looks a "danger." Saunders, Charlo, Plant, Benevidez are going the way of Callum.
And talking of those names.....
20 minutes into the video, this YouTuber nails it for me. The questions is asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8RJuT-8Wo
Quite a balanced video that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Its a good well balanced video in all fairness but basically this is what happens when one man is worth so much more $$$ than anyone else.
They don't want to run the risk of fighting one of the others in the division because if they get beat they won't get the $$$ that comes with Canelo, simple as that really
The Ryder fight in which he could not keep Ryder at bay was a example he had his back against the ropes! Canelo is levels above Ryder and Smith just looked terrible.
canelo would knock out arturQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by TICcanelo would knock out arturQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Let's have it. I'm sure Artur's available.
Canelo is brilliant to watch! He just went in there and bullied Smith with no respect for Callum's physical attributes. it was pretty masterful.
Meat fiasco aside, I think the Bryd scorecard has pitted many people against Canelo and all the claims of favouritism, gifts, advantages that comes with his power statusas boxings biggest draw.
I don't really understand people's hate of a guy who celarly boxes beautifully, puts on a show each time, faces good opposition and steps up divisions giving up any physical advantages he might have enjoyed at the lower weights. That should be applauded by boxing fans who are time and again left disappointed by boxers not fighting the best and promotors protecting their cash cows.
Maybe it's the fact he isn;t an English speaker either, but Canelo doesn't seem to be a brash, trash talker and living up the god life too much. He seems to do his talking in the ring.
Props to Canelo. But we do have to acknowledge Smith isn’t very good, Canelo showed what Ryder already showed. There is a reason Canelo chose him. I told you that before the fight.
I think as a person, Canelo is probably fine. I don’t think he himself as a fighter ducks people, but there is no doubt that he has been on the side of many fortunate decisions as well as get to call the shots for all of his fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK
is he? he seems to be spending his time inactive & with the adam deines of the world. artur is getting to that age where you'll have an excuse to fall back on when canelo knocks him outQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICcanelo would knock out arturQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Let's have it. I'm sure Artur's available.
"Many fortunate decisions?".Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherI think as a person, Canelo is probably fine. I don’t think he himself as a fighter ducks people, but there is no doubt that he has been on the side of many fortunate decisions as well as get to call the shots for all of his fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK
Of course there is the disputed draw with Golovkin and if Byrd had put in a sensible score I don't think people would be half as partisan toward him as they are. The second GGG fight I wouldn't say was a fortunate decision, I think he just about edged that one.
Not sure what other fights he was forunate to win. I don't recall the Lara fight per-se but from what I read it was a "close" fight one a tough one to score.
But given Canelo is the ultimate A-side fighter, and we know since the dawn of time the A-fighter is always favoured, and it's hardly like it's unique to Canelo in that regard, a dodgy scorecard on few occasions in over 40 fights isn't loads of fortune.
And what does calling the shots for his fights mean? Doesn't that always happen, again for the A-side fighter? Not unique to Canelo, it's just that he's the poster boy, so he gets more stick than the rest.
I thought he lost to Trout. Not a bad decision but I thought he lost. Many people thought he lost to Lara (I had Canelo winning). A draw scorecard against Floyd that was completely absurd. A draw against GGG that he definitely should have lost. The second fight with GGG was fortunate also because I think 85% of media and fans (there was actually data on this) had GGG winning or a draw. So on my scorecards, he has 4 losses. It’s only because of his stardom that he only has the 1 loss and one card was obviously very problematic on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK"Many fortunate decisions?".Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherI think as a person, Canelo is probably fine. I don’t think he himself as a fighter ducks people, but there is no doubt that he has been on the side of many fortunate decisions as well as get to call the shots for all of his fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK
Of course there is the disputed draw with Golovkin and if Byrd had put in a sensible score I don't think people would be half as partisan toward him as they are. The second GGG fight I wouldn't say was a fortunate decision, I think he just about edged that one.
Not sure what other fights he was forunate to win. I don't recall the Lara fight per-se but from what I read it was a "close" fight one a tough one to score.
But given Canelo is the ultimate A-side fighter, and we know since the dawn of time the A-fighter is always favoured, and it's hardly like it's unique to Canelo in that regard, a dodgy scorecard on few occasions in over 40 fights isn't loads of fortune.
And what does calling the shots for his fights mean? Doesn't that always happen, again for the A-side fighter? Not unique to Canelo, it's just that he's the poster boy, so he gets more stick than the rest.
Also, I get he is the A side and calls the shots, but he didn’t become the A side by being the best. He became the A side by being the best Mexican fighter in the world and has a whole country backing him. Because of this, he makes a ton of money which in turn has allowed him to jump around weights and demand hydration clauses as well as other random stipulations. I have always said that if Canelo didn’t have the backing he had, he would have at least a few more losses and wouldn’t be nearly as highly regarded.
For what it’s worth, I do think he’s a very good fighter, but definitely overhyped.
Callum Smith took the money knowing full well he was too big for the weight and too weak to compete. I should have seen it with the Ryder performance but thought he was just unmotivated.
The Smith that fought Groves would have made more of a fight but that was over 2 years ago.
Even when beating Groves, Callum Smith looked like he wouldnt stay at super middleweight very long
Canelo Alvarez to face Avni Yildirim on Feb. 27, hoping for two more fights in 2021
Boxing fans won’t have to wait long for Canelo Alvarez’s next fight.
The WBC and WBA super middleweight champion will face WBC mandatory challenger Avni Yildirim on Feb. 27, his manager and trainer Eddy Reynoso told the Los Angeles Times. While the Times also reported the fight will take place in Alvarez’s birthplace of Guadalajara, Mexico, Reynoso later tweeted a clarification that the location has not yet been determined.
If Guadalajara (or anywhere else in Mexico) is the pick, the fight will be Alvarez’s first in the country since 2011, a span of 17 fights.
Canelo Alvarez has big plans for 2021
Alvarez is coming off a dominant win over Callum Smith last weekend to unify the super middleweight titles, taking Smith’s WBA (Super) belt and the vacant WBC belt. Despite going the distance and winning by unanimous decision, Alvarez is now reportedly on track to lace up his gloves just two months later.
Such a short wait is a welcome change from the lay-off Alvarez had between his previous two fights, with more than 13 months elapsing between his wins over Sergey Kovalev in November 2019 and Smith last Saturday. That was mostly due to an untenable financial situation between Alvarez and DAZN, which eventually went away when the boxer was released from his record contract.
Should Alvarez win and remain unscathed, Reynoso told the Times that he intends to fight at 168 pounds on Cinco De Mayo and Mexican Independence Day in 2021, which would lead to lay-offs of three and four months, respectively.
Possible opponents reportedly include WBO champion Billy Joe Saunders, IBC champion Caleb Plant and Gennadiy Golovkin, who would have to move up in weight to make the trilogy happen.
In Yildirim, Alvarez will be facing an opponent in an extended hiatus of his own, as the Turkish challenger hasn’t fought since losing a title challenge against then-WBC super middleweight champ Anthony Dirrell in February 2019. The 21-2 Yildirim lost by 10th-round technical decision.
Since then, Yildirim has tested positive for two performance-enhancing drugs, but avoided a suspension after the WBC determined he didn’t take the substances intentionally.
Yildirim figures to be a massive underdog, though he’s already a financial winner by virtue of landing a fight against boxing’s biggest draw. Yildirim reportedly had a right to compete for the WBC belt as mandatory challenge, but agreed to step aside on the condition he faced the winner of Alvarez-Smith.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/canelo-a...043731383.html
So Yildirim hasn’t fought since he lost nearly 2 years ago and tested positive for PED’s and he’s the WBC Mandatory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now that’s what pisses me off. But it’s Canelo that’ll get the flack.
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo Yildirim hasn’t fought since he lost nearly 2 years ago and tested positive for PED’s and he’s the WBC Mandatory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now that’s what pisses me off. But it’s Canelo that’ll get the flack.
It's the WBC mandatory for Canelo........................................ The W...B...C. ;) ;)
I won't give Canelo any flak on that, although I'm sure he's more than happy to comply with the mandatory.
But the We Blow Canelo ... World Boxing Council?? They have a track record with Canelo that needs no further explanation here.
I hear what you’re saying, so he’s got the WBC in his pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo Yildirim hasn’t fought since he lost nearly 2 years ago and tested positive for PED’s and he’s the WBC Mandatory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now that’s what pisses me off. But it’s Canelo that’ll get the flack.
It's the WBC mandatory for Canelo........................................ The W...B...C. ;) ;)
I won't give Canelo any flak on that, although I'm sure he's more than happy to comply with the mandatory.
But the We Blow Canelo ... World Boxing Council?? They have a track record with Canelo that needs no further explanation here.
Well if any boxer can dictate to arguably the biggest belts in boxing , then there’s no hope.
I think it suits the WBC to be aligned to Canelo and vice versa.
It’s not like the small fry WBO and Warren , it’s a real organisation.
My thoughts on this are, get this mando out the way quickly and then fight a real fight.
It’s weird to view any title above any other at this point. I honestly never pay attention to what belt someone has. I just generally know that certain fighters have some sort of belt. I in no way view one belt more legitimate than another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI hear what you’re saying, so he’s got the WBC in his pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo Yildirim hasn’t fought since he lost nearly 2 years ago and tested positive for PED’s and he’s the WBC Mandatory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now that’s what pisses me off. But it’s Canelo that’ll get the flack.
It's the WBC mandatory for Canelo........................................ The W...B...C. ;) ;)
I won't give Canelo any flak on that, although I'm sure he's more than happy to comply with the mandatory.
But the We Blow Canelo ... World Boxing Council?? They have a track record with Canelo that needs no further explanation here.
Well if any boxer can dictate to arguably the biggest belts in boxing , then there’s no hope.
I think it suits the WBC to be aligned to Canelo and vice versa.
It’s not like the small fry WBO and Warren , it’s a real organisation.
My thoughts on this are, get this mando out the way quickly and then fight a real fight.
wouldn't it be an example to set for other fighters to follow if canelo fought four times this year
It absolutely would. I doubt if it’ll actually happen though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
I would give him a ton of credit if he did thatQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.