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Pawing with the jab is definitely not wilders fight backing up to the ropes and into the corners. What happened to the aggressive Wilder that we have known? Tyson Fury slapped him. It looks like any hard Punch by the Chinese guy hurts wilder. He just doesn't look like the same fighter. He looks like he looked into 10th round of the last fight with Tyson Fury
second to zhilei. even after two
Right coming close not gonna lie but few and far between. Zhang bothered him early and sneak left last seconds. 2-0 Zhang
Wilder fighting gun shy again. The right is there it really is.
Zhang dominating the 2nd round as Wilder looks shot to peices.
Wilder has never been the fighter he was since the trilogy.
Looks like he is scared shitless of everyone since.
Hope he can get that blood lust back.
I could see Deontay going down in this round by a flash knock down here in the fourth round.... Deontay is really lacking a good left hook which would be a great weapon against the South paw
Zhang left loopy but getting Wilder now. Wilder backs straight into corners, literally looks like he cannot/won't pull the trigger. 3-0 Zhang
This fight is shit in so many ways. I might go to bed.
Zhang bossing the 3rd round
3 nil
third to zhilei
fourth to zhilei
Zhang is control and just doing enough to win round 4. Wilder needs a miracle punch to turn this.
4-0 Zhang. Wilder a little buy start to 5th, time to attack son! Ohhhhhhhhh shit :o
Wilder stopped in the 5th round!
Made the count yeh? Brutal irony. The one brick killer done in by one brick.
Wow what the hell happened all I saw was wilder they're doing a pirouette like a ballerina and then I saw the second punch put him down
zhilei stops deontay in the fifth
And big bang has good power
Looks like Deontay has lost five out of his last six fights
Queens bury domination.
Wilder can retire now.
Question is was he always that crap or did he just loose is punch?
Master can go to bed at 1:30 a.m. now instead of 2:00 a.m.
Always crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
Always a flawed fighter with tremendous eraser. Unfortunately lacked fundamentals to fall back on when adversity increased. You simply cannot learn on the job at these levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
Also an example of how overstated kos can be. Exactly who are you knocking out and leaving flat?!
Shame. He was built up as a HW great not long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterAlways crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
Does wilder retire now? I think he should fight once more since he didn't really take too much punishment in this fight. He should fight once more just to test it out but against who I don't know. Maybe against Andy Ruiz or somebody like that
To me he looks like he has nothing left in the way of boxing. He brought us some entertaining fights but he cant get back in the ring after the last three stinkers. He's got no venom in his punches which is what carried him through his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
For me he's finished. (a rich man though so all good for him)
Totally agree. He didn't even try to throw any of those nuclear torpedo right hands. He was so tentative with them. A straight right hand right down the pipe is what you use against the South Psw or a nice wicked left hook but he didn't use either
It happened to AJ to be fair after the loss to Ruiz, AJ looked a bit like a deer in the headlights during the rematch and of course the /usyk fights. Anthony seems to have gone back to the way he was before all thee losses and looks like the pressure is off and performed great again against Ngannu, Walin and Helenios. I dont see wilder doing the same though after the Fury Trilogy. He seems to have gotten worse. I would love to see a comeback but I can't see it happening.
He said he'd retire if he lost. I think he's going to retireQuote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
So the last thing you lose is your punch, Wilder hasn't dented Zang or Parker in his last 2.
Makes Fury's wins over him look average at best.
Explains a lot really.
Maybe John Fury the fighting man who never fights will call Wilder out next.
Joseph Parker & Daniel Dubois showing that fights can improve after loses :cool:
Nick Ball is an action packed fighter
If Wilder sticks around he becomes a stepping stone :-\
Missed a few fights, got back in time for Sheeraz Williams. Sheeraz got wobbled a bit in the early rounds? The size difference was stark. Ammo had a few moments but it looked like a wooden spoon running into an oak door. Sheeraz tucked up whilst Ammo blew himself out, then picked him off. Good performance.
Genuinely pleased for DDD. I thought he was out of his depth here. I said in the other thread that Hrgovic is the better boxer, but it might come down to who holds it together best. It would appear that Dubois has learned a thing or two following a couple of damaging defeats and near misses. The early narrative was that Hrgovic's right hand was just a bit too cultured for Dubois. It looked like it was a matter of time before one really connected and put the skids under him. But, he dug in, he stuck around. OK he might have got a little fortunate with the cuts. But he bit down, fired back and showed that he was mentally and physically stronger than Hrgovic. A really good win.
How to get things horribly wrong by D. Wilder & Team. There's no guarantee that a prime rampaging Wilder beats Zhang, let alone a faded 2024 version. But give yourself a chance for fucks sake. With Zhang, you win the fight in the second half. I don't give a shit how much Chris Algieri knows about macro nutrients, Big Bang wilts in the second half. If Wilder was going to unlock a thunderbolt from the vault he needed an assist. Zhang being just a bit more stationary was that assist. Why he started trying to fight him so early I don't know.
Good job from Zhang. He did what he does. Applies steady educated pressure and gets off big shots as soon as he can. When Wilder fucked up, he was there to capitalise. He's now erased Wilder, erased the Parker loss. And keeps himself in the hunt for a possibly fragmented title.
Old fish eye's handed Edward his arse.
Dubois v AJ would be a really good contest in September at Wembley.
Will Eddie take the risk after what they saw with Triple D?
Well, I wonder how all the revisionalists that thought Wilder was the heaviest puncher in history are feeling now?
Perhaps now everyone will realise that he was always overrated (and I’m being kind and respectful)
Proof if ever it was needed that anyone with semi decent boxing fundamentals is a nightmare for “Bomb Squad”
And anybody that thinks Wilder should go anywhere near a ring again, they need to give their heads a wobble. What the fuck is he going to prove?
Have to say I was pleasantly impressed with Zheng’s natural instinct to finish Wilder when he tagged him and Wilder turned his back. He didn’t think twice and finished the job . Spiteful but impressive.
As for Dubois, yes it was probably his best performance to date, but I’ve just seen him saying he would “demolish Joshua!”
People are gonna jump on his nuts, especially the AJ Haters.
But Dubois got plugged flush a few times by Hrgovic , and if AJ tags him like that, he ain’t letting him off.
There are levels and Dubois will learn that. Easy work for AJ.
Nice blow out for the always impressive Bivol. But I have to say that at late notice, I thought Zinad came to fight and. I like the look of him. He’ll be back, he looked decent in my book.
Wilder is the heaviest puncher in history that has been world champion.
AJ landing that right hand on Dubois would give Triple D huge problems but I would rather watch that contest than any other this September. I would not be interested in AJ v Parker, Zhang or Whyte.
1st point Don’t agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
2nd point totally agree.
I am sure the stats show Wilder has the highest percentage KO's of any champion. Big punchers are often one dimensional and limited which he is but that right hand did cause damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera1st point Don’t agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
2nd point totally agree.
Do the stats show how many of those he KO’d were useless cunts?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI am sure the stats show Wilder has the highest percentage KO's of any champion. Big punchers are often one dimensional and limited which he is but that right hand did cause damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera1st point Don’t agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
2nd point totally agree.
Or do the stats show Wilder taking a 3 yard run up and throwing a massive haymaker like you would on a fairground punching machine?
Stats! Fuck me. That’s the sort of shite that Generation Z kids come out with when they rate people like Jake Paul and Cristiano Ronaldo ffs!
What about what you see with your own eyes??
That's some of the hype type stuff that helped get Wilder in trouble in the first place ;D. The late POS Edwin Valero and his 100 percent must go down as the king of the KO then. Funny thing is one is a US heavyweight who was well rewarded off his biggest losses. Literally given a reset button off the Parker schooling like it never happened and one was a pretty obscure lightweight from Venezuela. I can appreciate Wilders all in on the character and selling out for power to a certain point, he was very much his own big-drama show and fans latched on, but hindsight being 20-20 his is also a case of how numbers can be easily manufactured...exactly who had he left flat...and glaring flaws glossed over. Stacking glossy numbers is the name of the game. A lot of chatter about possible next move, even saw some bridgerweight talk :-\ but I really do hope he retires. He's all done now.