Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather

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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

People can argue all night on who has fought the better opposition, but the either way the fact still remains that not only is Mayweather P4P #1, he is also 10x more talented than Hatton can ever be!
I don't believe that Hatton would last all 12 rounds nor would he be a very competitive fight for PBF since Hatton's style is tailor made for PBF! PBF TKO/KO stoppage/cuts

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The fact that you put cuts down as a probable stoppage shows that you don't know all that much about Hatton and the reason to why he used to cut.

In the immortal words of The Everly Brothers:
Dreaaaaaaam dream dream dream

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Originally Posted by WWatt

But not if he just 'jumps all over him'.

You don't beat the most schooled boxer in the game by just 'jumping all over him' and hoping for the best, Mayweather's talented enough to simply step back and throw a lead right at the same time and never miss - and Ricky's under-estimating Mayweather's punch if he thinks Mayweather 'wouldn't be able to keep him off him', with Ricky just steaming in (as he says he'd do) he'd quite simply be giving Mayweather double velocity to his shots! Unless Ricky uses some sort of method, instead of madness, he'd be picked off and cut up and lose every round until the referee waves it off. Mayweather is a cleaner puncher than anything Hatton has known, and although Hatton probably closes the distance quicker than anybody Mayweather has fought - Mayweather can get his shots off quicker than anything Hatton has seen.

First and foremost, Hatton needs to lose some muscle. Kayes put 7lbs of muscle onto Ricky's frame in just six weeks for the Collazo fight, and it showed as Ricky appeared extremely slow (compared to his usual sharper, faster self) and unflexible on the night.. weighing 158 on a 5ft6 frame is quite hideous to be honest. If Mayweather won't move back down to 140, then Ricky should simply prepare for a 140 fight (even if he's taking the fight at 'welterweight') because he's naturally bigger than Mayweather anyway.

To beat Floyd Mayweather, you need to force him to make mistakes (because he won't make mistakes on his own), which is easier said than done. To force him to make mistakes, you need to use tactical maneuvering. Ricky Hatton is the one fighter who has the tools to make Mayweather make mistakes. Firstly, he needs to box his way in. Hatton has a quick, darting jab in his toolbox that looks difficult to counter with the right hand, he doubles and triples it into your face and it leaves him in position to get his shots off and his opponent in position to be hit. As or after Ricky's got his shots off, he'd need to be moving out of punching range, and then out-thinking Mayweather (which only Ricky Hatton can do, he has such a good boxing brain between his ears - if only he'd believe in himself).

He can give Mayweather angles, he can give him feints, he's the one guy who can throw Mayweather off. He knows how stay in range to draw leads, but while being in position to become slightly out of range with just one shift of the feet. Mayweather is a counter-puncher, and Hatton is the guy who can make him lead. And I believe Hatton is actually at his best when he's counter-punching -
working off opponents leads and threading punches through small gaps. He can punch when Mayweather punches by rolling with Mayweather's punches while letting his own shots go at the same time. Hatton can do this. But he can't roll with any shots or counter anything if he's just going 'jump all over him' with no pre-thought.

Ricky is quick-witted, as well as quick-footed and quick-handed, and much cuter than he's ever been given credit for. And he has a large variety of shots to keep Mayweather thinking, and the more you make Mayweather think the more likely it is that he's going to slip up, and if he slips up then Ricky Hatton is the fighter to make him pay, quite honestly.

Mayweather can roll his shoulders all he likes, but that's not going to avoid a left hook placed just behind the elbow. Hatton also knows how to step around and shift his position to open Mayweather up and be able to shoot a shot to the solar plexus (slowing Mayweather down for a few rounds).

Ricky Hatton's 'boxing' ability is under-estimated. We've seen his 'boxing' skills in the gym often enough and back in the amateurs, but believe me we have never seen the best of Ricky Hatton's 'boxing' ability in professional boxing. Hatton simply hasn't needed to use his 'boxing' skills, because he's always been able to overwhelm opponents. Against Mayweather, though, he'd need to use all his skill if he wants to stand much chance of winning the thing, and then with his more notable advantages (eg strength, power, stamina, workrate, chin, infighting, pressure) on top of that it would = victory! But he needs to live with Mayweather in terms of boxing (and he can, trust me) before he can think about bringing out his main advantages (when Mayweather is more frustrated), he can't try to throw Mayweather off by 'jumping all over him' from the start because it will not work IMO, he needs to try to throw Mayweather off with tactical maneuvering before possibly jumping on him later in the fight.

Anybody doubting Ricky's 'boxing' skills should consider that he was actually the best on the planet in his category in the amateurs. For a kid with short arms, that alone proves he must of been able to box abit!

Watch Hatton against Thaxton, Magee and Tackie and you see such rythm and balance. I know Thaxton, Magee and Tackie aren't in Mayweather's league, but then again who is? You can show skill on a punching bag though, and Hatton has certainly showed flashes of his class in the pro ranks. Watch the Pendleton fight closely and you see Hatton doing a lot of side-stepping to load up his punches. The Oliveira fight shows accurate output from all sides, and saw Hatton reduce a guy who had set CompuBox records with ammounts of punches he throws to barely being able to get any shots off - Hatton thoroughly dominated that fight without even needing to throw one jab!

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impressive post mate CC

mayweather still beats hatton though

For Hatton to even have a prayer...he has to become way more disciplined about his conditioning. The man balloons up way too much between fights.

STOP DREAMING!!!

NEVER does Hatton beat PBF. Not even in the dream you are having now, so stop it.

Hatton doesn't in any way possess the skills to defeat Floyd & would be a one-sided fight for PBF! Hatton is taylor made for a fighter like PBF & would look very ameature in the ring against him!

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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

Hatton doesn't in any way possess the skills to defeat Floyd & would be a one-sided fight for PBF! Hatton is taylor made for a fighter like PBF & would look very ameature in the ring against him!

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:coolclick: the truth shall set you free.

If Floyd beats DLH and then fights Hatton at 147, I'd make Floyd around an 8/1 or 9/1 favorite.

i think mayweather is too fast and slick for hatton
i give to mayweather by decision, any weight cc

No he Can't! :beatup:

been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.

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Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.

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Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...

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So that should make him heavy favourite against Hatton on June 23rd then? If thats the case, i hope Hatton gets the praise he deserves if he beats JLC.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.

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Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...

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So that should make him heavy favourite against Hatton on June 23rd then? If thats the case, i hope Hatton gets the praise he deserves if he beats JLC.

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Well, that was five years ago.. I know, it's something that happens a lot, if Hatton wins Castillo was shot.... But in this case, I think he really is severely on the decline, and Ill stick to that whether Hatton wins or not, unless Castillo looks totally rejuvinated and performs well.. If he does, and Hatton still wins, then yes.. He should get big praise.. If Castillo looks like he did in his last fight though, I don't think you can honestly pretend he is close to what he was even a few years ago. He looked like an old fighter to me, I doubt he'll be able to come in much better shape for Hatton.. He's been in a lot of tough fights and has drained himself routinely.. Thing is, Hatton might be rapidly declining as well.. He has sure faded down the stretch in his last couple fights, which for a guy who prides himself on conditioning isn't exactly a good sign. Basically, neither of them are anywhere near a level where they could beat Mayweather, and neither will be.

HAtton could barely stand a chance against Collazo what he thinks he can do against PBF.

Sorry I like Hatton but PBF is bigger and stronger (yes stronger) maybe not a one punch ko guy but when Hatton start push he will get push back.

And yes I will pay to see this fight but Hatton has to come up to 147 that thing people say to fight at a catchweight is crap. Step up or stay down.