CALZAGHE v MANFREDO -It's official- 3/03/07 Millenium Stadium-Wales

this totally sucks. im not impressed

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Originally Posted by stebs

I think Peter is tough as hell and will have a better showing then Calzaghe's last two opponents, in fact I hope he knocks the hell out of Calzaghe for taken about 12 steps backwards. Calzaghe is already well known in the states to anyone that is a boxing fan so I don't believe for a second that it's just for HBO and to get known over here in the states. His promoter simply thinks that Peter will be an easy defense and he'll match Hopkins MW defense record giving him bragging rights in a sence. But in reality it will do nothing in a true boxing fans eyes that he defended the WBO title more then Hopkins has defended his titles. Poor Joe is going backwards and losing more respect each day. I guess I have more confidence in Peters ability then most here and think the fight will go the distance further hurting Joes reputation. Joe has plenty of KO's but he's not a great puncher, he hit Lacy over a thousand times and couldn't KO him.

I'm rooting for the huge underdog here, I hope like hell Manfredo knocks him off his throne. He wants to be known In the states but he makes a barely rated fighter travel over there to fight him. Manfredo has something that Calzaghe lacks and thats courage and the willingness to fight anyone anywhere. Look at these ratings, Peter is not rated in the top 10 of any sanctioning body and not even the top 15 of the WBO or WBA.




WBC
Mikkel Kessler
1 . Librado Andrade
2 . Jeff Lacy
3 . Lucien Bute
4 . Carl Froch
5 . Cristian Sanavia
6 . Mario Veit
7 . Jurgen Brahmer
8 . William Joppy
9 . Mger Mkrtchian
10 . Rudy Markussen
11 . Otis Grant
12 . Jackson Chanet
13 . Peter Manfredo Jr.
14 . Danilo Haussler
15 . Danny Green


WBA
Mikkel Kessler
1. Anthony Mundine
2. Jeff Lacy
3. Rudy Markussen
4. Mger Mkrtchian
5. Lucien Bute
6. Vitaly Tsypko
7. Mario Veit
8. Danilo Haussler
9. Danny Green
10. Jurgen Brahmer
11. Jean Paul Mendy
12. Dennis Inkin
13. Lolenga Mock
14. Carl Froch
15. Jackson Chanet

IBF
Joe Calzaghe
1 Robert Stieglitz
2 Alejandro Berrio
3 Rudy Markussen
4 Danillo Haussler
5 Jeff Lacy
6 Luciene Bute
7 Mger Mkrtchian
8 Carl Froch
9 Mario Veit
10 Jackson Chanet
11 Jurgen Brahmer
12 Dennis Inkin
13 Yusuf Mack
14 Joe Spina these last two should be switched
15 Peter Manfredo Jr.


WBO
Joe Calzaghe
1. Rudy Markussen
2. Robert Stieglitz
3. Denis Inkin
4. Carl Froch
5. Allan Green
6. Jeff Lacy
7. Lucian Bute
8. Mario Veit
9. Victor Oganov
10. Cristian Sanavia
11. Mger Mkrtchian
12. Jean Paul Mendy
13. Sakio Bika
14. Hector Velazco
15. Francisco A. Mora


Fightnews
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Jeff Lacy
4. Marcus Beyer
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Librado Andrade
7. Dennis Inkin
8. Lucian Bute
9. Jurgen Brähmer
10. Danny Green
11. Allan Green
12. Peter Manfredo Jr.
13. Sakio Bika
14. Mario Veit
15. Robert Stieglitz
16. Anthony Hanshaw

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I agree with you stebs. As much as we can criticise Calzaghe for taking this fight I do think Manfredo is due a whole lot of credit for being willing to go over Wales to fight the 'champion' in his own back yard.

When you consider that he has been handpicked as some kind of sacrifical whipping boy for Joe to make a statement against to impress the American fightfans you can't help but root for the kid.

As a proud Brit I really don't know who I will be rooting for once they step in the ring but right now I'd like to see Peter kick his ass.

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Originally Posted by stebs

I think Peter is tough as hell and will have a better showing then Calzaghe's last two opponents, in fact I hope he knocks the hell out of Calzaghe for taken about 12 steps backwards. Calzaghe is already well known in the states to anyone that is a boxing fan so I don't believe for a second that it's just for HBO and to get known over here in the states. His promoter simply thinks that Peter will be an easy defense and he'll match Hopkins MW defense record giving him bragging rights in a sence. But in reality it will do nothing in a true boxing fans eyes that he defended the WBO title more then Hopkins has defended his titles. Poor Joe is going backwards and losing more respect each day. I guess I have more confidence in Peters ability then most here and think the fight will go the distance further hurting Joes reputation. Joe has plenty of KO's but he's not a great puncher, he hit Lacy over a thousand times and couldn't KO him.

I'm rooting for the huge underdog here, I hope like hell Manfredo knocks him off his throne. He wants to be known In the states but he makes a barely rated fighter travel over there to fight him. Manfredo has something that Calzaghe lacks and thats courage and the willingness to fight anyone anywhere. Look at these ratings, Peter is not rated in the top 10 of any sanctioning body and not even the top 15 of the WBO or WBA.




WBC
Mikkel Kessler
1 . Librado Andrade
2 . Jeff Lacy
3 . Lucien Bute
4 . Carl Froch
5 . Cristian Sanavia
6 . Mario Veit
7 . Jurgen Brahmer
8 . William Joppy
9 . Mger Mkrtchian
10 . Rudy Markussen
11 . Otis Grant
12 . Jackson Chanet
13 . Peter Manfredo Jr.
14 . Danilo Haussler
15 . Danny Green


WBA
Mikkel Kessler
1. Anthony Mundine
2. Jeff Lacy
3. Rudy Markussen
4. Mger Mkrtchian
5. Lucien Bute
6. Vitaly Tsypko
7. Mario Veit
8. Danilo Haussler
9. Danny Green
10. Jurgen Brahmer
11. Jean Paul Mendy
12. Dennis Inkin
13. Lolenga Mock
14. Carl Froch
15. Jackson Chanet

IBF
Joe Calzaghe
1 Robert Stieglitz
2 Alejandro Berrio
3 Rudy Markussen
4 Danillo Haussler
5 Jeff Lacy
6 Luciene Bute
7 Mger Mkrtchian
8 Carl Froch
9 Mario Veit
10 Jackson Chanet
11 Jurgen Brahmer
12 Dennis Inkin
13 Yusuf Mack
14 Joe Spina these last two should be switched
15 Peter Manfredo Jr.


WBO
Joe Calzaghe
1. Rudy Markussen
2. Robert Stieglitz
3. Denis Inkin
4. Carl Froch
5. Allan Green
6. Jeff Lacy
7. Lucian Bute
8. Mario Veit
9. Victor Oganov
10. Cristian Sanavia
11. Mger Mkrtchian
12. Jean Paul Mendy
13. Sakio Bika
14. Hector Velazco
15. Francisco A. Mora


Fightnews
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Jeff Lacy
4. Marcus Beyer
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Librado Andrade
7. Dennis Inkin
8. Lucian Bute
9. Jurgen Brähmer
10. Danny Green
11. Allan Green
12. Peter Manfredo Jr.
13. Sakio Bika
14. Mario Veit
15. Robert Stieglitz
16. Anthony Hanshaw

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it really puts it in perspective look where Sakio Bika is rated :o 13th with the WBO and nowhere with any other sanctioning bodys!!

What a Joeke!!

WE ALL KNOW THE RATINGS CAN BE MANIPULATED, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, CALZAGHE BEAT A SECOND RATE FIGHTER WITH SO MUCH GLASS IN HIS GAW HE OTTA BE A SHANDELIR !

....HE MIGHT WIN A FEW FIGHTS , BUT HES NO MIKKEL KESSLER! ;D

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

WE ALL KNOW THE RATINGS CAN BE MANIPULATED, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, CALZAGHE BEAT A SECOND RATE FIGHTER WITH SO MUCH GLASS IN HIS GAW HE OTTA BE A SHANDELIR !

....HE MIGHT WIN A FEW FIGHTS , BUT HES NO MIKKEL KESSLER! ;D

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I'm not sure who you are talking about here. I mean Calzaghes last two opponents Lacy and Bika both had really solid chins!

Lacy was exposed in terms of his boxing skills, but he certainly demonstrated his heart, courage, determination and ability to take a punch extremely well.

As much as Lacy as people's opinions of Jeff dropped regarding his overall talent I think to most real fight fans his reputation as a fighter who gives 100% was enhanced.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

WE ALL KNOW THE RATINGS CAN BE MANIPULATED, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, CALZAGHE BEAT A SECOND RATE FIGHTER WITH SO MUCH GLASS IN HIS GAW HE OTTA BE A SHANDELIR !

....HE MIGHT WIN A FEW FIGHTS , BUT HES NO MIKKEL KESSLER! ;D

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I'm not sure who you are talking about here. I mean Calzaghes last two opponents Lacy and Bika both had really solid chins!

Lacy was exposed in terms of his boxing skills, but he certainly demonstrated his heart, courage, determination and ability to take a punch extremely well.

As much as Lacy as people's opinions of Jeff dropped regarding his overall talent I think to most real fight fans his reputation as a fighter who gives 100% was enhanced.

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i take it u havent seen rocky 5? i was just joking....you will lose!ha ha ;D

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Totally disgusted.

He had his gimmee with Bika.

Shoulda fought tooth & nail to unify against Kessler.

This has indeed dropped Joe down a notch...something that no hater has been able to do in over 4 years.

This makes no sense. The money & prestige lies at Kess's feet.

Still a fan...but totally disgusted.

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Completely and utterly sums the situation up for me. :coolclick: Wacko, Joe you mug!

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

WE ALL KNOW THE RATINGS CAN BE MANIPULATED, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, CALZAGHE BEAT A SECOND RATE FIGHTER WITH SO MUCH GLASS IN HIS GAW HE OTTA BE A SHANDELIR !

....HE MIGHT WIN A FEW FIGHTS , BUT HES NO MIKKEL KESSLER! ;D

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I'm not sure who you are talking about here. I mean Calzaghes last two opponents Lacy and Bika both had really solid chins!

Lacy was exposed in terms of his boxing skills, but he certainly demonstrated his heart, courage, determination and ability to take a punch extremely well.

As much as Lacy as people's opinions of Jeff dropped regarding his overall talent I think to most real fight fans his reputation as a fighter who gives 100% was enhanced.

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Yeah I think Bika's chin hurt Joe's hand more than vice versa.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by Smashup

It's simply an HBO thing mate ;)

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Warren is the grand orchestrator...you know he could make it happen.

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Fwank is a safety first, payday promoter. Something any good promoter should be doing. He's only intrested in lining his pockets. Not good for us, but you can't say he isn't stupid. At least GBP is intrested in the now rather than the future.

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Warren ain't stupid, but Calzcrappy is for letting this bullshit happen

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I'm in agreement with you VD my old buddy.

I think Joe is most interested in big paydays with the least amount of risk and effort.

I think you can list Calzaghes boxing priorities like this.

1) Money,
2) Protecting that 0
3)Not have to get on a plane
4)Not to have my nose broken and good looks damaged.

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Absolutely. Dead on correct Mr. Bilbo. CC

I love Calzaghe. I love Manfredo. I hate this fight. I give Pete all the credit for being willing to step in with one of the best PFP in his home territory, but I'd rather see him fight Green, Froch, or hell, Beyer to help get ready for a real title shot. He's just not ready yet.

As for Joe C., what a freaking pussy move. Fight Kessler, you bitch. I hope Peter beats your ass and ruins everything for you. You just lost so many points in my book. This is Mayweather move. Freaking Mayweather move!! If I rip on PBF for this kinda crap, I gotta give it to Joe, even though I love him. Like Michael Corleone said to Fredo, "You broke my heart."

Well you can look at it one way, but you can also look at it this way. Joe is giving an up and comer his chance to ko the champ. This may be a shocker. What Manfredo lacks in skill, he more than makes up for in heart. I think Joe will win, but on the other hand i would not be shocked at an upset either. Anything can happen.

This is what I'm having a hard time understanding. Maybe some Calzaghe fans can answer it for me. They say the Manfredo fight is just an exposure fight for Joe. That it will lead to a big money show down against Jermain Taylor. Well isn't 3.4 million big money? It's probabley what he'll get if he did fight Taylor. I doubt he'll get much more.

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Originally Posted by SeanE

I love Calzaghe. I love Manfredo. I hate this fight. I give Pete all the credit for being willing to step in with one of the best PFP in his home territory, but I'd rather see him fight Green, Froch, or hell, Beyer to help get ready for a real title shot. He's just not ready yet.

As for Joe C., what a freaking pussy move. Fight Kessler, you bitch. I hope Peter beats your ass and ruins everything for you. You just lost so many points in my book. This is Mayweather move. Freaking Mayweather move!! If I rip on PBF for this kinda crap, I gotta give it to Joe, even though I love him. Like Michael Corleone said to Fredo, "You broke my heart."

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It's not a "Mayweather move" He fought his mandatories!!! >:mad

And Baldomir was a champion!

Manfredo is Bruseles level.

But Bika was that way too boo.

But Calzaghe has one megafight and the rest easy fights.

Makes me sad to be a boxing fan of this guy :'(

He could have done so much for boxing after the Lacy win :'( but now :'(

i like joseph he fights well ;D

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Originally Posted by MrJohnRuiz

i like joseph he fights well ;D

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To bad you can't say the same about his recent opponents