Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
What did I say? Anyone worth a damn before the 14th. Let's not try to put Donnie and Ayub in the same category with Pretty Boy.
I don't think he is putting LaLonde in the same catagory as Mayweather...But with you getting over your soap box preaching and dismissing everyone elses statements but yours why don't you read the point!!!!
He said good fighters...LaLonde was pretty good...and just in case you forgot...IT WAS AT LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT!!!!!!!!
Floyd lacks KO power at 147 let alone 4 divisions above....
and if you say Floyd can KO a top light heavy then you lose all credibility on any post from here on out.....even PBF most die hard fans would not make that statement
Point out where I said Floyd had more power than Ray and then come talk to me. Until then, shut the f@#k up! Thank you and goodbye ;)
I don't think I ever said you did say that did I? But no again ou do not read correctly and understand what people are saying. The power was just a point. A point that witout any real speed advantage and no power advantage Floyd is the underdog...CAN YOU UNDERSTAND NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I don't know who you are telling to shut the F%$# up you little piss ant....Maybe if you weren't so illiterate things would not have to be broken down to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I S*&% out more boxing knowledge in the morning than you do now or could ever hope to have so come back when you grow up and can act like a big boy. Till then head on to a pro wrestling site it doesn't matter what you say in those forums its all bullshit anyway
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
My apologies to everyone else on the forum about my behavior :(.....
This guy just made me mad talking to me like some low life and then tries to dismiss me like he is someone with any type of authority...
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
I think Floyd uncle if asked about Hearns at welter would tell Him Son dont go there
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Lyle its that simple cc
Thanks bud, cc back
Floyd is going to go down in history just like Mike Tyson (providing he retires before fighters start figuring him out)...Overrated
Being REAL about boxers is tough to do but if you're going to make the assessment you have to.
Floyd is very fast and talented with his defense but Ray Leonard was just as fast and had power as well....and not to mention he beat ALL-TIME GREATS!!!!
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
Any way thats my lot been interesting
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Lyle its that simple cc
Thanks bud, cc back
Floyd is going to go down in history just like Mike Tyson (providing he retires before fighters start figuring him out)...Overrated
Being REAL about boxers is tough to do but if you're going to make the assessment you have to.
Floyd is very fast and talented with his defense but Ray Leonard was just as fast and had power as well....and not to mention he beat ALL-TIME GREATS!!!!
CC on that excellent point. No matter how good he is PBF needs some Marquee names on his list. Corrales, Gatti, Castillo aren't going to be good enough all greats have those real big names
Leonard--Hearns, Benitez, Hagler, Duran
Ali--Frazier, Liston, Foreman, Patterson,
Robinson--Bassillio, Archer, LaMotta
Guys that for some reason were legends themselves by time their career is over....
Another problem is that unlike those other eras though anyone in the top 10 was considered good not like today where the cream of the crop is so scattered
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
And it's not like Floyd hasn't had those names availible to him: Oscar De la Hoya, Shane Mosley, and Kostya Tszyu are a few of the guys he didn't fight.
De la Hoya is a great name to have on your record
Zab Judah wasn't a bad one either but not right after he lost to Carlos Baldomir!!!
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
A comment by Scrap made me realize that alot of guys may havent seen much of Leonard. If they did, they probobly saw clips of his fights with Hearns and Hagler. Those fights dont give a true representation of Leonards style. Against Hearns, Ray had to go outside his fight plan to get to Hearns. Against Hagler, he fought in the only style that would give him a chance against Marvin.
Here is clip of Ray against a tough Brit named Davey "Boy" Green. Granted, I dont classify Green as a great welter, but dare I say I put him a notch above the Gatti and Baldomir that Floyd has faced recently.
Its a nice display of footwork, combos, speed and power. I think you'll dig it. :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6__DmwNFTfU
If any of you guys could work the magic of bringing the youtube screen up, I'd appreciate it. Me not to smart. :-[
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
What did I say? Anyone worth a damn before the 14th. Let's not try to put Donnie and Ayub in the same category with Pretty Boy.
I don't think he is putting LaLonde in the same catagory as Mayweather...But with you getting over your soap box preaching and dismissing everyone elses statements but yours why don't you read the point!!!!
He said good fighters...LaLonde was pretty good...and just in case you forgot...IT WAS AT LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT!!!!!!!!
Floyd lacks KO power at 147 let alone 4 divisions above....
and if you say Floyd can KO a top light heavy then you lose all credibility on any post from here on out.....even PBF most die hard fans would not make that statement
Point out where I said Floyd had more power than Ray and then come talk to me. Until then, shut the f@#k up! Thank you and goodbye ;)
I don't think I ever said you did say that did I? But no again ou do not read correctly and understand what people are saying. The power was just a point. A point that witout any real speed advantage and no power advantage Floyd is the underdog...CAN YOU UNDERSTAND NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I don't know who you are telling to shut the F%$# up you little piss ant....Maybe if you weren't so illiterate things would not have to be broken down to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I S*&% out more boxing knowledge in the morning than you do now or could ever hope to have so come back when you grow up and can act like a big boy. Till then head on to a pro wrestling site it doesn't matter what you say in those forums its all bullshit anyway
Are you still talking? I thought I told you to shut the f@#k up :lickish:
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by right_cross
A comment by Scrap made me realize that alot of guys may havent seen much of Leonard. If they did, they probobly saw clips of his fights with Hearns and Hagler. Those fights dont give a true representation of Leonards style. Against Hearns, Ray had to go outside his fight plan to get to Hearns. Against Hagler, he fought in the only style that would give him a chance against Marvin.
Here is clip of Ray against a tough Brit named Davey "Boy" Green. Granted, I dont classify Green as a great welter, but dare I say I put him a notch above the Gatti and Baldomir that Floyd has faced recently.
Its a nice display of footwork, combos, speed and power. I think you'll dig it. :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6__DmwNFTfU
If any of you guys could work the magic of bringing the youtube screen up, I'd appreciate it. Me not to smart. :-[
Um, dude, Dave Green is not even on par with a Carlos Baldomir, much less a notch above.
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
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Originally Posted by right_cross
A comment by Scrap made me realize that alot of guys may havent seen much of Leonard. If they did, they probobly saw clips of his fights with Hearns and Hagler. Those fights dont give a true representation of Leonards style. Against Hearns, Ray had to go outside his fight plan to get to Hearns. Against Hagler, he fought in the only style that would give him a chance against Marvin.
Here is clip of Ray against a tough Brit named Davey "Boy" Green. Granted, I dont classify Green as a great welter, but dare I say I put him a notch above the Gatti and Baldomir that Floyd has faced recently.
Its a nice display of footwork, combos, speed and power. I think you'll dig it. :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6__DmwNFTfU
If any of you guys could work the magic of bringing the youtube screen up, I'd appreciate it. Me not to smart. :-[
Um, dude, Dave Green is not even on par with a Carlos Baldomir, much less a notch above.
Wont argue with you on that, but Baldo never impressed me as much more than a club fighter who got his day in the sun.
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
Dave Green beat John StraceyWho beat Jose Napoles so he wasnt that bad
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Dave Green beat John StraceyWho beat Jose Napoles so he wasnt that bad
Laurent Boudouani beat Terry Norris who beat Sugar Ray Leonard so he must be a Hall of Famer.
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Dave Green beat John StraceyWho beat Jose Napoles so he wasnt that bad
Laurent Boudouani beat Terry Norris who beat Sugar Ray Leonard so he must be a Hall of Famer.
Mate you said that Floyd would embarrass SRL, thats stupid. I cant think of a fighter at welter IN HISTORY that would 'embarrass' SRL.
Re: What if? Floyd Mayweather vs 1981 Ray Leonard
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
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Originally Posted by skyler
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Dave Green beat John StraceyWho beat Jose Napoles so he wasnt that bad
Laurent Boudouani beat Terry Norris who beat Sugar Ray Leonard so he must be a Hall of Famer.
Mate you said that Floyd would embarrass SRL, thats stupid. I cant think of a fighter at welter IN HISTORY that would 'embarrass' SRL.
I can't either, except Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Pernell Whitaker.
