Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I'm amazed that only 2 people have voted for a Peter decision.
I have to be honest, as much as I want Toney to win, if I was betting with my head I'd go for a Peter SD and would have thought that would be the most popular option.
I voted for Toney by UD though cos I'm a huge fan and can't vote against him!
Toney wont lose, not in a rematch!! ;)
Agreed...but it's fun to dream. Heh heh heh.
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
How can the second most popular concensus be that peter wins by ko? Toney has a great chin and a very slick style that makes his ability to take a punch that much better. If peter couldn't drop Dr. glassjaw for the count what makes you think he can even hurt toney?
He hurt Toney in there first fight. 4th or 5th round...can't remember which...but he did hurt him. Clocked his a** hard.
Klitschko doesn't have a glass jaw...that's just silly.
He's been knocked out twice is some 40+ fights...the rest is stamina & he did pretty well against Peter who is without a doubt a KO artist.
Peter by shocking TKO. ;D
There's a difference between phasing someone and actually harming them to the point that it throws off their game. Its not the quantity of ko's that im using as a point, it is the quality. 4 times in two rounds against sanders!? The purity was stamina related as was the brewster one to an extent but i think its been proven that if you can hit him he will go down. It's not complete glass its more like those bs plastic packages that electronic toys come in. They are rather difficult to get inside but once you get scissors for them it doesn't really stand a chance.
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
How can the second most popular concensus be that peter wins by ko? Toney has a great chin and a very slick style that makes his ability to take a punch that much better. If peter couldn't drop Dr. glassjaw for the count what makes you think he can even hurt toney?
He hurt Toney in there first fight. 4th or 5th round...can't remember which...but he did hurt him. Clocked his a** hard.
Klitschko doesn't have a glass jaw...that's just silly.
He's been knocked out twice is some 40+ fights...the rest is stamina & he did pretty well against Peter who is without a doubt a KO artist.
Peter by shocking TKO. ;D
There's a difference between phasing someone and actually harming them to the point that it throws off their game. Its not the quantity of ko's that im using as a point, it is the quality. 4 times in two rounds against sanders!? The purity was stamina related as was the brewster one to an extent but i think its been proven that if you can hit him he will go down. It's not complete glass its more like those bs plastic packages that electronic toys come in. They are rather difficult to get inside but once you get scissors for them it doesn't really stand a chance.
Okay...well as quailty goes...Wlad got up from every time he was dropped & never lost consciousness.
Wlad's been hit by some of the heaviest hitters out there...Sanders argueably the heaviest of the 90's big men...I just have never agreed with that glass chin shit because he always got up.
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
When does the program on showtime begin folks?
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
When does the program on showtime begin folks?
Saturday night @ 10 p.m. babe.
Wacko can't wait!!! ;D
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
When does the program on showtime begin folks?
Saturday night @ 10 p.m. babe.
Wacko can't wait!!! ;D
Shit I thought it was tonight, just realised its past twelve now, so its the 6th fuck! They weighed in yestereday the shat threw me off. Damn, I'm gonna down my sorrows now.
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
When does the program on showtime begin folks?
Saturday night @ 10 p.m. babe.
Wacko can't wait!!! ;D
S*** I thought it was tonight, just realised its past twelve now, so its the 6th F***! They weighed in yestereday the shat threw me off. Damn, I'm gonna down my sorrows now.
Heh heh heh heh. Sorry babe...you'll have that shit from time to time. ;D
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I'm amazed that only 2 people have voted for a Peter decision.
I have to be honest, as much as I want Toney to win, if I was betting with my head I'd go for a Peter SD and would have thought that would be the most popular option.
I voted for Toney by UD though cos I'm a huge fan and can't vote against him!
Toney wont lose, not in a rematch!! ;)
Agreed...but it's fun to dream. Heh heh heh.
I did say that before realising Toney is a pound heavier! :-\ Still, his body looks firmer, though still too rotund for my liking. I know muscle is heavier but I was expecting at least a couple of pounds to have been shed.
Peter is coming in leaner too. This is going to be VERY interesting. I as a Toney fan will be hoping the rot has stopped. And you will be hoping he gets put on his fat rear end. Too very differing perspectives, but one intriguing bout! ;D
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
How can the second most popular concensus be that peter wins by ko? Toney has a great chin and a very slick style that makes his ability to take a punch that much better. If peter couldn't drop Dr. glassjaw for the count what makes you think he can even hurt toney?
He hurt Toney in there first fight. 4th or 5th round...can't remember which...but he did hurt him. Clocked his a** hard.
Klitschko doesn't have a glass jaw...that's just silly.
He's been knocked out twice is some 40+ fights...the rest is stamina & he did pretty well against Peter who is without a doubt a KO artist.
Peter by shocking TKO. ;D
There's a difference between phasing someone and actually harming them to the point that it throws off their game. Its not the quantity of ko's that im using as a point, it is the quality. 4 times in two rounds against sanders!? The purity was stamina related as was the brewster one to an extent but i think its been proven that if you can hit him he will go down. It's not complete glass its more like those bs plastic packages that electronic toys come in. They are rather difficult to get inside but once you get scissors for them it doesn't really stand a chance.
Okay...well as quailty goes...Wlad got up from every time he was dropped & never lost consciousness.
Wlad's been hit by some of the heaviest hitters out there...Sanders argueably the heaviest of the 90's big men...I just have never agreed with that glass chin S*** because he always got up.
Ok i won't call it glass but i will dub it as "suspect"
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
How can the second most popular concensus be that peter wins by ko? Toney has a great chin and a very slick style that makes his ability to take a punch that much better. If peter couldn't drop Dr. glassjaw for the count what makes you think he can even hurt toney?
He hurt Toney in there first fight. 4th or 5th round...can't remember which...but he did hurt him. Clocked his a** hard.
Klitschko doesn't have a glass jaw...that's just silly.
He's been knocked out twice is some 40+ fights...the rest is stamina & he did pretty well against Peter who is without a doubt a KO artist.
Peter by shocking TKO. ;D
There's a difference between phasing someone and actually harming them to the point that it throws off their game. Its not the quantity of ko's that im using as a point, it is the quality. 4 times in two rounds against sanders!? The purity was stamina related as was the brewster one to an extent but i think its been proven that if you can hit him he will go down. It's not complete glass its more like those bs plastic packages that electronic toys come in. They are rather difficult to get inside but once you get scissors for them it doesn't really stand a chance.
Okay...well as quailty goes...Wlad got up from every time he was dropped & never lost consciousness.
Wlad's been hit by some of the heaviest hitters out there...Sanders argueably the heaviest of the 90's big men...I just have never agreed with that glass chin S*** because he always got up.
Ok i won't call it glass but i will dub it as "suspect"
Fair enough. ;)
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
And so Saturday arrives....I've been pretty vocal in my support for Sam Peter, in my view he did enough first time out, but the JFAT cheerleading squad have won him a rematch, and I can't see it being anything but a more emphatic victory for the Nigerian Nightmare. Peter's younger, stronger and fitter, and Toney can't keep dodging those shells in Peter's fists forever. But if he does he'll need to work harder and throw many more of those middleweights punches to warrant a points win.
Anyhow, I believe my quote has become cliche, and then moved out the other side and gone full circle back to cool, so to quote the Terminator, come fight time, "I'll be back".
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
And so Saturday arrives....I've been pretty vocal in my support for Sam Peter, in my view he did enough first time out, but the JFAT cheerleading squad have won him a rematch, and I can't see it being anything but a more emphatic victory for the Nigerian Nightmare. Peter's younger, stronger and fitter, and Toney can't keep dodging those shells in Peter's fists forever. But if he does he'll need to work harder and throw many more of those middleweights punches to warrant a points win.
Anyhow, I believe my quote has become cliche, and then moved out the other side and gone full circle back to cool, so to quote the Terminator, come fight time, "I'll be back".
Bring it on!! Go Toney!!!!!! Get that belly bounce in full swing, ya lil funky baby ya! Wheee Haaaa!! ;D
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
James will win this for sure.Clear UD.
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
And so Saturday arrives....I've been pretty vocal in my support for Sam Peter, in my view he did enough first time out, but the JFAT cheerleading squad have won him a rematch, and I can't see it being anything but a more emphatic victory for the Nigerian Nightmare. Peter's younger, stronger and fitter, and Toney can't keep dodging those shells in Peter's fists forever. But if he does he'll need to work harder and throw many more of those middleweights punches to warrant a points win.
Anyhow, I believe my quote has become cliche, and then moved out the other side and gone full circle back to cool, so to quote the Terminator, come fight time, "I'll be back".
Heres the deal I see with all this I like Sam Peter and he is my 3rd favorite heavy behind Evander, ironically enough James Toney is 2nd ;D but as far as Sam goes the boy cant box a lick at this point in his career plain and simple. James is better than Peter in every single way except power and I think he outboxed Peter decisevly and James got a royal screwing last time out.
Now lets talk about Toneys weight. James is in a weird spot right now he really dosent belong in the heavyweight division thats the beauty of all this he is that Fukin good one of the best and I shutter to say his Body of work is more impressive than Roy Jones jr James is one of the greatest of all time... period!!!! thats why he is were he is
Now back to the weight, judging by the weigh in pics James body looks signifigantly harder not the overly flabby body we have seen. a 215-220lb James Toney would get murdered by Peter cause of the weight difference James needs to carry the weight for stability against a big puncher like Peter, James has added signifigant muscle mass to his shoulders, neck, Chest and you can see a hint of his abs around his sola plexes. Muscle weighs more than fat, so I disregard his weight all together it dosent mean he's a fat piece of shite because he weighs virtually the same from the last fight..
as far as James needing to do a ton of roadwork I say NO HE DOSENT!! James is a counterpuncher and he fights in spurts so if he can do interval training for conditioning and still have the necessary cardio to be effective in a fight and again he needs to carry more denseity to absorb a true heavweights punches.
The shoulder bulk adds as a shield for James since he makes a living with shoulder rolls and its an integral part of
his defense.
James may not look like an Evander Holyfield but his current body composition is better suited for a fight with a Sam Peter or a Wlad Klitschko.
Bottom line James Toney decisive 12 round UD ;)
Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Toney vs Peter II
If your'e expecting Toney to come in lookin anything remotely close to this...you are all mistaken.
I'm gonna go with Peter by shock TKO!!!
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