Valuev's record BETTER? than Marciano's??

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

No, it's not Valuev's fault that he's won all his pro fights.
No, it's not Valuev's fault that the quality of his opposition has been "less than stellar."
And yes, Valuev deserves credit for working hard at getting better inside the ring.

But for MY money....... I'd rather not watch a guy who outweighs everyone he fights by 100 pounds and stands almost a foot taller. Just like I think it'd be unfair to throw Arturo Gatti in against Bernard Hopkins (nobody get a stroke..... I'm not comparing Valuev to Hopkins, people).

So I'll say it again. It's fighters like Valuev that confirm my opinion that the heavyweight division shouldn't be open-ended.

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As usual Tito has something wise to say!
I do not disagree!
I think the divisions need a re-alignment
As an example
mid 160
super mid 168
Lt hvy 175??
it goes up 8 pounds and then only up 7??
dumb!
for sure we need cruiser and super cruiser then hw and super heavy
maybe at 100kg? 220.5 lbs?
not right for a guy above cruiser 190 to go against a guy 250+
just not right!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Boy you're a goddamn fool if.........no you're just a goddamn fool!


Wladimir has fought good fighters, he's challenged himself......Vitali has fought good fighters, he's challenged himself.

And neither is full of himself enough to compare himself to an all-time great much less make a statement like "I want to shatter this legend's record"


Valuev is a waste of space! Why worship a fighter who doesn't fight the best out there????



Now it is no secret that I am a fan of the Klitschko's BUT I am not delusional enough to say they are all-time greats yet.....and they are more accomplished fighters than Valuev and that's just the F****** truth

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Well there is some truth to what you say

"Wladimir has fought good fighters, he's challenged himself......"

true, fighters like Sanders,Brewster,Puritty

BUT!
HE GOT KO'D THE F#CK OUT!!

"Vitali has fought good fighters, he's challenged himself."

Well looking at his record, there's really only one.. Lewis..
and oh ya...
BUT
He was beaten to a bloody pulp!!!
(please don't make me post those horrifying pics... AGAIN!)

then there's Valuev
5 times defending the WBA INTER CONTINENTAL BELT
and now
4 times defending the WBA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BELT

STILL undefeated!


HE wants to shatter the record, with wins over ALL the best fighters in the world! all the belt holders!

Valuev has OPENLY challenged Wlad!
has Wlad OR Vitali replied????
ANSWER ME!!! HAVE THEY????

case closed....


P.S. Quit using my trademark BUT lol!

BREAKING NEWS!!!! LANDMINE CELLPHONE PICS STOLEN FROM HIS MANLOVE HOTEL ROOM!!!!!!!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../caveman_1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...51/caveman.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...1/untitled.jpg
omg landmine! YOU FREAK!
(u will get these, everytime you shove your man lust for valuev down everyones throat here)


But anyways,

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Well there is some truth to what you say

"Wladimir has fought good fighters, he's challenged himself......"

true, fighters like Sanders,Brewster,Puritty

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what about chris byrd (2 times)UD, then KO
Dominating samuel peter

Notable mentions
and mercer,botha, mccline, monte barret, brock,
valuevs biggest fights was against guys who wlad handled easily....
Knucklehead.

Are people still running with this thread?! ??? ;D

Big Duece....those are not my pics.. I did however manage to obtain pics of your and Valuevs love child.
And a pic of you at a "Rainbow" parade proudly proclaiming you affection for the hirsute Russian


And I love the way Wlad "dominated" Samuel Peter....from off his back 3 times?? Must be some kind of "Domination" I'm not experianced in, you'd know more about it me I'm sure. Dominating other men while on your back...

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Originally Posted by landmine950

Big Duece....those are not my pics.. I did however manage to obtain pics of your and Valuevs love child.
And a pic of you at a "Rainbow" parade proudly proclaiming you affection for the hirsute Russian


And I love the way Wlad "dominated" Samuel Peter....from off his back 3 times?? Must be some kind of "Domination" I'm not experianced in, you'd know more about it me I'm sure. Dominating other men while on your back...

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dude, your seriously giving me a headache. What the hell is wrong with you, your 46 years old, get a hobby. valuev lost to Larry donals and John Ruiz. Get a grip.

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Originally Posted by landmine950

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

No, it's not Valuev's fault that he's won all his pro fights.
No, it's not Valuev's fault that the quality of his opposition has been "less than stellar."
And yes, Valuev deserves credit for working hard at getting better inside the ring.

But for MY money....... I'd rather not watch a guy who outweighs everyone he fights by 100 pounds and stands almost a foot taller. Just like I think it'd be unfair to throw Arturo Gatti in against Bernard Hopkins (nobody get a stroke..... I'm not comparing Valuev to Hopkins, people).

So I'll say it again. It's fighters like Valuev that confirm my opinion that the heavyweight division shouldn't be open-ended.

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As usual Tito has something wise to say!
I do not disagree!
I think the divisions need a re-alignment
As an example
mid 160
super mid 168
Lt hvy 175??
it goes up 8 pounds and then only up 7??
dumb!
for sure we need cruiser and super cruiser then hw and super heavy
maybe at 100kg? 220.5 lbs?
not right for a guy above cruiser 190 to go against a guy 250+
just not right!

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I thought that cruiser was 200 and under.

The wind-up merchant strikes again. How is this topic still alive?

Valuev lost to Ruiz AND Donald....gee I'm confused..
I thought all those W's meant a win....let's see....uh...46 of em..
Well if the WBA needs casual fans to RE score fights after a decision has been given, I'll be sure to tell 'em to give you a call.

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hmm so landmind isn't actually banned, he may not even be aware of that. silly caveman ;D

Landmine, you're delusional and it's funny but it's also sad.......sad that you think that big ape is going to beat anyone worth a damn

someone find those landmind vs lyle post or a.k.a valuev sex slave vs klitshcko lover posts ;D

No.

Say what you want, Marciano would have beaten Chaguev, and Ruiz, something that Valuev couldnt do.

As for the record comparison, that is ridiculous. Trying to give credit to a fighter Valuev beat, because he also lost to a different named fighter. You've got to be kidding me. Noone that Valuev has beat, or will ever beat will come close to Charles, Walcott, or Louis, regardless if they were in their prime or not.

And IMO, although it might take a few rounds, simply because of height and reach disadvantage, it would only take 1 from Marciano to flatten the freak. Man, Cmon Vlad, I cant wait to see the sasquatch get leveled.