Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....there are a number of other fighters Lil Floyd didn't fight, let us not forget he has NEVER unified any division he has set foot in.
130-147....now to 154....he's not unifying anything!!!
So that means he's not as great as he thinks he is
Unifying is just as meaningless as the alphabet straps are. Remember that Mayweather got the first two of his alphabet straps at 147 by beating a "champion" who had lost his last fight. If you don't believe in the straps (which you shouldn't--they're more about paying fees and fighting bullshit no-name "contenders" than anything), then you shouldn't believe in unification. The Ring rankings are the only legit thing. So I agree that it would have been good for Floyd to fight Hatton or Tszyu while he was at 140 (though I don't think either would have been at all close), but I don't see any good complaint for the other divisions he's run through.
So why claim to have been the BEST at 130 if he never fought the best, unless you feel that beating Jukko, Rios, Gerena, Augustus and the rest of the nobodys gives him the right to claim that.
Same applies for his fighting at 135 & 140, credit to him for taking on JLC and wining on officially (but loosing in reality) he came back and redeemed himself he moves on to Sosa & N'Dou. At 140 credit to him for taking on the Champ. but thats all he did he didn't even bother to defend the title or anything.
Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....there are a number of other fighters Lil Floyd didn't fight, let us not forget he has NEVER unified any division he has set foot in.
130-147....now to 154....he's not unifying anything!!!
So that means he's not as great as he thinks he is
Unifying is just as meaningless as the alphabet straps are. Remember that Mayweather got the first two of his alphabet straps at 147 by beating a "champion" who had lost his last fight. If you don't believe in the straps (which you shouldn't--they're more about paying fees and fighting bullshit no-name "contenders" than anything), then you shouldn't believe in unification. The Ring rankings are the only legit thing. So I agree that it would have been good for Floyd to fight Hatton or Tszyu while he was at 140 (though I don't think either would have been at all close), but I don't see any good complaint for the other divisions he's run through.
So why claim to have been the BEST at 130 if he never fought the best, unless you feel that beating Jukko, Rios, Gerena, Augustus and the rest of the nobodys gives him the right to claim that.
Same applies for his fighting at 135 & 140, credit to him for taking on JLC and wining on officially (but loosing in reality) he came back and redeemed himself he moves on to Sosa & N'Dou. At 140 credit to him for taking on the Champ. but thats all he did he didn't even bother to defend the title or anything.
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....there are a number of other fighters Lil Floyd didn't fight, let us not forget he has NEVER unified any division he has set foot in.
130-147....now to 154....he's not unifying anything!!!
So that means he's not as great as he thinks he is
Unifying is just as meaningless as the alphabet straps are. Remember that Mayweather got the first two of his alphabet straps at 147 by beating a "champion" who had lost his last fight. If you don't believe in the straps (which you shouldn't--they're more about paying fees and fighting bullshit no-name "contenders" than anything), then you shouldn't believe in unification. The Ring rankings are the only legit thing. So I agree that it would have been good for Floyd to fight Hatton or Tszyu while he was at 140 (though I don't think either would have been at all close), but I don't see any good complaint for the other divisions he's run through.
So why claim to have been the BEST at 130 if he never fought the best, unless you feel that beating Jukko, Rios, Gerena, Augustus and the rest of the nobodys gives him the right to claim that.
Same applies for his fighting at 135 & 140, credit to him for taking on JLC and wining on officially (but loosing in reality) he came back and redeemed himself he moves on to Sosa & N'Dou. At 140 credit to him for taking on the Champ. but thats all he did he didn't even bother to defend the title or anything.
What are you talking about? He beat Corralles at 130 (you somehow left that off your list ::**). Corralles was the consensus best fighter in that division at the time. ??? He beat Castillo at 135. Castillo was the consensus best fighter in that division at the time. He beat both the former and (at the time) current linear champs at 147 (Judah and Baldomir; and IMO Judah was the best guy there at the time--I've never been at all impressed with Margarito, who wouldn't have made it past Clottey without that lucky injury, and who will lose one of his next two fights for sure). So like I said, 140 is the only place to complain, since Tszyu, and then Hatton, were the top-rated guys there at the time. Though you can't really blame him for Hatton, since Hatton and his people officially said they wouldn't take the fight because "Hatton wasn't ready" for Floyd. And Tszyu was only there in the division with Floyd for a quick second before he retired.
If what you mean by "he didn't face the best" is that he didn't beat the best five to ten fighters in every division he's been in, that's true. But it's true of pretty much everyone except Bernard Hopkins, who ruled the same division for 10 years. If you mean that he didn't face "the best" guy, you're just wrong. Castillo and Corrales were the best in their respective divisions at the time. Go check your Ring mag back issues.
Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
Duran did not lose to Hearns because of style.. That one was Hearns having too fast a jab and fast punching. Hearns at 154 was prime and at 25 years old. Hearns was too much in every category. Barkley beating Hearns is style makes fight, but Hearns was faster than Duran. If a guy is faster that is speed making fight..
Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....there are a number of other fighters Lil Floyd didn't fight, let us not forget he has NEVER unified any division he has set foot in.
130-147....now to 154....he's not unifying anything!!!
So that means he's not as great as he thinks he is
Unifying is just as meaningless as the alphabet straps are. Remember that Mayweather got the first two of his alphabet straps at 147 by beating a "champion" who had lost his last fight. If you don't believe in the straps (which you shouldn't--they're more about paying fees and fighting bullshit no-name "contenders" than anything), then you shouldn't believe in unification. The Ring rankings are the only legit thing. So I agree that it would have been good for Floyd to fight Hatton or Tszyu while he was at 140 (though I don't think either would have been at all close), but I don't see any good complaint for the other divisions he's run through.
So why claim to have been the BEST at 130 if he never fought the best, unless you feel that beating Jukko, Rios, Gerena, Augustus and the rest of the nobodys gives him the right to claim that.
Same applies for his fighting at 135 & 140, credit to him for taking on JLC and wining on officially (but loosing in reality) he came back and redeemed himself he moves on to Sosa & N'Dou. At 140 credit to him for taking on the Champ. but thats all he did he didn't even bother to defend the title or anything.
What are you talking about? He beat Corralles at 130 (you somehow left that off your list ::**). Corralles was the consensus best fighter in that division at the time. ??? He beat Castillo at 135. Castillo was the consensus best fighter in
that division at the time. He beat both the former and (at the time) current linear champs at 147 (Judah and Baldomir; and IMO Judah was the best guy there at the time--I've never been at all impressed with Margarito, who wouldn't have made it past Clottey without that lucky injury, and who will lose one of his next two fights for sure). So like I said, 140 is the only place to complain, since Tszyu, and then Hatton, were the top-rated guys there at the time. Though you can't really blame him for Hatton, since Hatton and his people officially said they wouldn't take the fight because "Hatton wasn't ready" for Floyd. And Tszyu was only there in the division with Floyd for a quick second before he retired.
If what you mean by "he didn't face the best" is that he didn't beat the best five to ten fighters in every division he's been in, that's true. But it's true of pretty much everyone except Bernard Hopkins, who ruled the same division for 10 years. If you mean that he didn't face "the best" guy, you're just wrong. Castillo and Corrales were the best in their respective divisions at the time. Go check your Ring mag back issues.
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Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
8) Sure hes been hand picked this is how they make the money look at Freitas he was hand picked and what happened when he met a real fighter he quit against Corrales. And your right Mayweather isnt the best pfp he hasnt showed it so far. Judah gave him a hard time what do you think Oscar is gonna do at the same weight!
Re: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
your a sad man
...and you ARE a lousy speller
