Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
tyson, in his prime...
Ko's any heavyweight in the past 20 years ( in their prime)
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Holmes lost 2 15 rounders to Spinks had a few fights at heavy yet Tyson demolished Holmes that had never happend to Holmes before and then he went on to have good fights with Holyfield and McCall and Tyson crushed Spinks in 91 seconds ;)
On paper he did but fans know Spinks didn't win im sure BIG H could tell you that he has probably seen the fight more than me and again he had more prep time with Oliver and Holyfield and plus Tyson did strike fear into Holmes because Tyson striked fear into his opponents and sadly Holmes at that time wasn't good enough for a prime Mike.
I would'nt say Tyson put fear in Holmes because Holmes did'nt think Tyson hit as hard as he found out he did and he thought he was going to teach the kid a lesson how wrong he was when he was snoozing in round 4
Actually Holmes said that was the first time he was scared of a opponent aka Mike.
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Holmes lost 2 15 rounders to Spinks had a few fights at heavy yet Tyson demolished Holmes that had never happend to Holmes before and then he went on to have good fights with Holyfield and McCall and Tyson crushed Spinks in 91 seconds ;)
On paper he did but fans know Spinks didn't win im sure BIG H could tell you that he has probably seen the fight more than me and again he had more prep time with Oliver and Holyfield and plus Tyson did strike fear into Holmes because Tyson striked fear into his opponents and sadly Holmes at that time wasn't good enough for a prime Mike.
you know i think Holmes won both fights but gotta give spinks his props, he did good considering hes a light HW
Fixed it for you ;D
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Ive told why Holyfield beat Tyson Tyson only trained for 4 week Holyfield trained between 12 and 16 week
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where talking prime vs prime and tysons prime, his absoloute peak was 1988. and that version off tyson would be a handfull for most. you know little in the fact that you think anyone whos not affraid and can take a punch will automatically kill tyson ::**
and i know u think tyson only ever beat bums ??? ....spinks, thomas, williams, berbick,tubbs,smith,biggs,and holmes were not bums and yeah holmes was 38 but he still had never been koed and was never koed after that but tyson knocked him out cold,something prime holyfield couldnt do to an even older version of holmes. and spinks was a natural light heavy but he would have givin holyfield a run for his money and he ko cooney who was twice his size . so it was a good win for tyson
Right i see you mentioned these names about 6 times today im going to tell you little fact
Spinks was natural Lightheavy only got title getting 2 gifts off a faded Holmes
Smith koed a Witherspoon who was having drug problems and bad dealings with King his head wasn't in the game in his prime he easily dealt with Smith
Pinklon Thomas had talent but he had just got out of rehab
Carl Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak
Berbick had been koed in 1 round before Tyson got to him and lost every round against Holmes
Tubbs had 2 weeks to prepare and was badly out of shape
Smith lol don't make me laugh he lost to Marvis Frazier
Biggs is like Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak and he never beat an elite fighter just like Williams
Holmes 38 2 weeks to train on losing streak and hadn't fought in nearly 2 years.
smith also murdered tim witherspoon.
you say carl's chin was so bad, but holmes couldnt put him away?
thomas had angelo dundee and was very good, but i didnt know he just got out of rehab. so ill take your word on that one.
and where do you get this 2 weeks crap from? acording to you all tyson opponents only get 2 weeks to train for a fight? ??? holmes and tubbs were givin sufficient time to train, they were just beaten by a better man who was in his prime!
and why do you discount spinks as just a light heavy? he was a good HW that could match it with the best.holmes had 30 rds to ko him and he couldnt!
you say tyson is overrated but you also think ALI is overrated?
just keepin it real mr icecold 8)
Holmes isn't a puncher just like Ali couldn't put Norton away he isn't puncher James Tillis decked Williams twice its well known Williams chin is like glass
And it isn't crap Tubbs said himself he had 2 weeks to train because he was a replacement i believe
And again with this Holmes couldn't ko Spinks firstly he was fading and was shot secondly it doesn't matter if he couldn't ko him he still won both fights to 98 percent of the public
Tyson is overrated Ali is a tad overrated but atleast he beat great fighters in there prime i never said Ali is overrated in his opponents i mean when people say he can beat anyone and thats ditto for Tyson except Ali beat great fighters Tyson didn't.
but if holmes was so shot for the spinks fight, how in the hell did he manage to fight on for another 20years. and give a prime evander loads of probs?
Because it was style makes fights ?? Foreman gave Holyfield troubles aswell and he was shot aswell ??
it is because holfield was crap and couldnt ko 2 old men. at least tyson koed that SOB :D
If Holyfield sucks that much how comes Holyfield beat Tysons a** twice ???
which excuse do you want? the past his prime excuse or the one about holyfield headbutting and holding or the one about tyson being out of action for 4 years? take ur pick brother ;D
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Ive told why Holyfield beat Tyson Tyson only trained for 4 week Holyfield trained between 12 and 16 week
What about 2nd time ???
And i never heard Tyson only having 4 weeks to train.
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where talking prime vs prime and tysons prime, his absoloute peak was 1988. and that version off tyson would be a handfull for most. you know little in the fact that you think anyone whos not affraid and can take a punch will automatically kill tyson ::**
and i know u think tyson only ever beat bums ??? ....spinks, thomas, williams, berbick,tubbs,smith,biggs,and holmes were not bums and yeah holmes was 38 but he still had never been koed and was never koed after that but tyson knocked him out cold,something prime holyfield couldnt do to an even older version of holmes. and spinks was a natural light heavy but he would have givin holyfield a run for his money and he ko cooney who was twice his size . so it was a good win for tyson
Right i see you mentioned these names about 6 times today im going to tell you little fact
Spinks was natural Lightheavy only got title getting 2 gifts off a faded Holmes
Smith koed a Witherspoon who was having drug problems and bad dealings with King his head wasn't in the game in his prime he easily dealt with Smith
Pinklon Thomas had talent but he had just got out of rehab
Carl Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak
Berbick had been koed in 1 round before Tyson got to him and lost every round against Holmes
Tubbs had 2 weeks to prepare and was badly out of shape
Smith lol don't make me laugh he lost to Marvis Frazier
Biggs is like Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak and he never beat an elite fighter just like Williams
Holmes 38 2 weeks to train on losing streak and hadn't fought in nearly 2 years.
smith also murdered tim witherspoon.
you say carl's chin was so bad, but holmes couldnt put him away?
thomas had angelo dundee and was very good, but i didnt know he just got out of rehab. so ill take your word on that one.
and where do you get this 2 weeks crap from? acording to you all tyson opponents only get 2 weeks to train for a fight? ??? holmes and tubbs were givin sufficient time to train, they were just beaten by a better man who was in his prime!
and why do you discount spinks as just a light heavy? he was a good HW that could match it with the best.holmes had 30 rds to ko him and he couldnt!
you say tyson is overrated but you also think ALI is overrated?
just keepin it real mr icecold 8)
Holmes isn't a puncher just like Ali couldn't put Norton away he isn't puncher James Tillis decked Williams twice its well known Williams chin is like glass
And it isn't crap Tubbs said himself he had 2 weeks to train because he was a replacement i believe
And again with this Holmes couldn't ko Spinks firstly he was fading and was shot secondly it doesn't matter if he couldn't ko him he still won both fights to 98 percent of the public
Tyson is overrated Ali is a tad overrated but atleast he beat great fighters in there prime i never said Ali is overrated in his opponents i mean when people say he can beat anyone and thats ditto for Tyson except Ali beat great fighters Tyson didn't.
but if holmes was so shot for the spinks fight, how in the hell did he manage to fight on for another 20years. and give a prime evander loads of probs?
Because it was style makes fights ?? Foreman gave Holyfield troubles aswell and he was shot aswell ??
it is because holfield was crap and couldnt ko 2 old men. at least tyson koed that SOB :D
If Holyfield sucks that much how comes Holyfield beat Tysons a** twice ???
which excuse do you want? the past his prime excuse or the one about holyfield headbutting and holding or the one about tyson being out of action for 4 years? take ur pick brother ;D
Tyson had cleaned out most the champs and was destroying everyone including Bruno and took less time to do it than it did back in 89 so you can't use that excuse and Tyson was doing his fair share of dirty tactics .
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2nd fight Holyfield continued butting and holding Tyson lost it and got dq'd
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the second holy-tyson was very competitive tyson got rocked the 1st 2 rds and then battered holyfield all over the ring in the 3rd. just before he had enough of holys dirty tactics and reacted like an animal
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2nd fight was going the same way as the 1st, that's why Tyson took the easy way out
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Holmes must have said he was scared after the fight because he werent saying it before
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the second holy-tyson was very competitive tyson got rocked the 1st 2 rds and then battered holyfield all over the ring in the 3rd. just before he had enough of holys dirty tactics and reacted like an animal
When did he batter Holyfield ?? he had an ok round but your talking about 1 round and he had even better round in there first fight 5th round and look what happened to Mike the next round.
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2nd fight was going the same way as the 1st, that's why Tyson took the easy way out
Agreed
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where talking prime vs prime and tysons prime, his absoloute peak was 1988. and that version off tyson would be a handfull for most. you know little in the fact that you think anyone whos not affraid and can take a punch will automatically kill tyson ::**
and i know u think tyson only ever beat bums ??? ....spinks, thomas, williams, berbick,tubbs,smith,biggs,and holmes were not bums and yeah holmes was 38 but he still had never been koed and was never koed after that but tyson knocked him out cold,something prime holyfield couldnt do to an even older version of holmes. and spinks was a natural light heavy but he would have givin holyfield a run for his money and he ko cooney who was twice his size . so it was a good win for tyson
Right i see you mentioned these names about 6 times today im going to tell you little fact
Spinks was natural Lightheavy only got title getting 2 gifts off a faded Holmes
Smith koed a Witherspoon who was having drug problems and bad dealings with King his head wasn't in the game in his prime he easily dealt with Smith
Pinklon Thomas had talent but he had just got out of rehab
Carl Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak
Berbick had been koed in 1 round before Tyson got to him and lost every round against Holmes
Tubbs had 2 weeks to prepare and was badly out of shape
Smith lol don't make me laugh he lost to Marvis Frazier
Biggs is like Williams had talent but his chin was badly weak and he never beat an elite fighter just like Williams
Holmes 38 2 weeks to train on losing streak and hadn't fought in nearly 2 years.
smith also murdered tim witherspoon.
you say carl's chin was so bad, but holmes couldnt put him away?
thomas had angelo dundee and was very good, but i didnt know he just got out of rehab. so ill take your word on that one.
and where do you get this 2 weeks crap from? acording to you all tyson opponents only get 2 weeks to train for a fight? ??? holmes and tubbs were givin sufficient time to train, they were just beaten by a better man who was in his prime!
and why do you discount spinks as just a light heavy? he was a good HW that could match it with the best.holmes had 30 rds to ko him and he couldnt!
you say tyson is overrated but you also think ALI is overrated?
just keepin it real mr icecold 8)
Holmes isn't a puncher just like Ali couldn't put Norton away he isn't puncher James Tillis decked Williams twice its well known Williams chin is like glass
And it isn't crap Tubbs said himself he had 2 weeks to train because he was a replacement i believe
And again with this Holmes couldn't ko Spinks firstly he was fading and was shot secondly it doesn't matter if he couldn't ko him he still won both fights to 98 percent of the public
Tyson is overrated Ali is a tad overrated but atleast he beat great fighters in there prime i never said Ali is overrated in his opponents i mean when people say he can beat anyone and thats ditto for Tyson except Ali beat great fighters Tyson didn't.
but if holmes was so shot for the spinks fight, how in the hell did he manage to fight on for another 20years. and give a prime evander loads of probs?
Because it was style makes fights ?? Foreman gave Holyfield troubles aswell and he was shot aswell ??
it is because holfield was crap and couldnt ko 2 old men. at least tyson koed that SOB :D
If Holyfield sucks that much how comes Holyfield beat Tysons a** twice ???
which excuse do you want? the past his prime excuse or the one about holyfield headbutting and holding or the one about tyson being out of action for 4 years? take ur pick brother ;D
Tyson had cleaned out most the champs and was destroying everyone including Bruno and took less time to do it than it did back in 89 so you can't use that excuse and Tyson was doing his fair share of dirty tactics .
yes tyson was destroying bums and fought a total off 8 rds after 4 year layoff and he didnt train hard for holyfield, he thought holy would be a push over. and took him lightly
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the second holy-tyson was very competitive tyson got rocked the 1st 2 rds and then battered holyfield all over the ring in the 3rd. just before he had enough of holys dirty tactics and reacted like an animal
When did he batter Holyfield ?? he had an ok round but your talking about 1 round and he had even better round in there first fight 5th round and look what happened to Mike the next round.
yeah what happened the next round? rd #6....tyson was rocked by way of a huge holyfield head butt...again.....which caused a huge cut on his eye.he was clearly shakin by it.......hence the flash knock down
