Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
What i say about Calzaghe is true and ive backed it up enough times with lists of who he could of fought and the only decent people he has fought i don't just hate on him.
So your implying i just hate on Tyson ?? i think i have backed it up more than enough times with good responses and like i said in the other thread i praised Mike when you said i was Tyson hater which is totally untrue.
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
What i say about Calzaghe is true and ive backed it up enough times with lists of who he could of fought and the only decent people he has fought i don't just hate on him.
So your implying i just hate on Tyson ?? i think i have backed it up more than enough times with good responses and like i said in the other thread i praised Mike when you said i was Tyson hater which is totally untrue.
Ice i was talking to punisher not you i never even said owt about you and you not backing owt up so get back in your box mate
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
ok regarding this tillis fight, i would like to point out that tyson was only 13 months into his pro-carrer....thats 13 months people :o he was still inexperienced and was unsure of going the distance, thats why you'll notice after rd 6 i think tyson stops punching to save his energy cause his worried about gassing out.
and tillis made a good account of himself, he came in better shape than he had before and danced around for 10rds. but tyson needed this fight as a learning curve and thats all it was ,was a learning curve nothing more so stop judging tyson on this fight. it was only 13 months into his pro career...thats i year folks
Ok lets judge him after 5 years when surely by that time anybody else would be in their prime.... Oh wait tysons career was over by then. Saying that judging him in his first couple of years isn't accurate is a joke because in all honesty thats when he was at his best. By the time tyson fought tillis he was on a gradual decline that can be easily seen if you study all of his earlier fights. Winning the title restored his intensity but that started to fade out as well. Now i'll be the first to say that tyson on his best night gives just about every ATG a run for their money or a loss but you have to understand that by the time the tillis fight came around, tyson was about as good as he was gonna get, essentially that is a prime tyson. Ali was faster, stronger, and much more punch commited than tillis. The tillis fight exposes tyson to show that he would struggle against bigger guys with great jabs and movement and ai was the best of them.
well i strongly disagree with that statment
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
ok regarding this tillis fight, i would like to point out that tyson was only 13 months into his pro-carrer....thats 13 months people :o he was still inexperienced and was unsure of going the distance, thats why you'll notice after rd 6 i think tyson stops punching to save his energy cause his worried about gassing out.
and tillis made a good account of himself, he came in better shape than he had before and danced around for 10rds. but tyson needed this fight as a learning curve and thats all it was ,was a learning curve nothing more so stop judging tyson on this fight. it was only 13 months into his pro career...thats i year folks
Ok lets judge him after 5 years when surely by that time anybody else would be in their prime.... Oh wait tysons career was over by then. Saying that judging him in his first couple of years isn't accurate is a joke because in all honesty thats when he was at his best. By the time tyson fought tillis he was on a gradual decline that can be easily seen if you study all of his earlier fights. Winning the title restored his intensity but that started to fade out as well. Now i'll be the first to say that tyson on his best night gives just about every ATG a run for their money or a loss but you have to understand that by the time the tillis fight came around, tyson was about as good as he was gonna get, essentially that is a prime tyson. Ali was faster, stronger, and much more punch commited than tillis. The tillis fight exposes tyson to show that he would struggle against bigger guys with great jabs and movement and ai was the best of them.
well i strongly disagree with that statment
so according to you, tyson was at his best at 13 months into his pro carrer? ???....NO!! he was still learning
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
Troy ive been reading punishers posts he has'nt got a clue
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
What i say about Calzaghe is true and ive backed it up enough times with lists of who he could of fought and the only decent people he has fought [b][i don't just hate on him. /b]
So your implying i just hate on Tyson ?? i think i have backed it up more than enough times with good responses and like i said in the other thread i praised Mike when you said i was Tyson hater which is totally untrue.
Ice i was talking to punisher not you i never even said owt about you and you not backing owt up so get back in your box mate
Seemed like you was because you always say i hate on Tyson this is bit i thought you was implying me i'll put it in bold but i got it wrong.
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
ok regarding this tillis fight, i would like to point out that tyson was only 13 months into his pro-carrer....thats 13 months people :o he was still inexperienced and was unsure of going the distance, thats why you'll notice after rd 6 i think tyson stops punching to save his energy cause his worried about gassing out.
and tillis made a good account of himself, he came in better shape than he had before and danced around for 10rds.  but tyson needed this fight as a learning curve and thats all it was ,was a learning curve nothing more so stop judging tyson on this fight. it was only 13 months into his pro career...thats i year folks
Ok lets judge him after 5 years when surely by that time anybody else would be in their prime.... Oh wait tysons career was over by then. Saying that judging him in his first couple of years isn't accurate is a joke because in all honesty thats when he was at his best. By the time tyson fought tillis he was on a gradual decline that can be easily seen if you study all of his earlier fights. Winning the title restored his intensity but that started to fade out as well. Now i'll be the first to say that tyson on his best night gives just about every ATG a run for their money or a loss but you have to understand that by the time the tillis fight came around, tyson was about as good as he was gonna get, essentially that is a prime tyson. Ali was faster, stronger, and much more punch commited than tillis. The tillis fight exposes tyson to show that he would struggle against bigger guys with great jabs and movement and ai was the best of them.
well i strongly disagree with that statment
so according to you, tyson was at his best at 13 months into his pro carrer? ???....NO!! he was still learning
Ok lets say he was still learning for the first two years of his career. Then the finished product was 3 more years of a "prime" and that was it? No tyson was at his peak at the very beginning of his career. As i've said many times befopre after watching his fights closely i could see a difference and that he was infact losing intensity as time went on. He was not becoming beter after 13 months, he was becoming worse.
