I remember Minter said something similar when he said *He wouldn't let a black man take the title from him* that was considered racist so why isn't Hopkins comment considered racist ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
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I remember Minter said something similar when he said *He wouldn't let a black man take the title from him* that was considered racist so why isn't Hopkins comment considered racist ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
As Ive pointed out,and your avoiding,thats how they talk in that part of the countryQuote:
Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Again should the very white Velvet Undergrounds song "Waiting For My Man" lyrics be changed to "Hey there caucasian male possibly of European descent,what chu doing up town"?
Blimey, you come out with some bollocks - Monkey.
Hopkins comments are considered racist by EVERYONE apart from a few excusers (you) and Bilbo.. and Bilbo is fucked in the head.
Hopkins isn't insulting someones nationality like he did with Tito.
"I would never let me a white boy beat me," Hopkins said five times.
"You can print that. I would never lose to a white person."
He sees the white person as inferior. Simple.
Blimey,your confusing the twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What he said about Tito went to far,and he apologized for it
Simple
And when the hell was Peurto Rican considered white in the states for that matter,not in my lifetime to be sure
What did I confuse?
Jezus!! ;D
Now I am confused by your edited post.
Peurto Ricans considered white?
What the fuck are you on about? What the fuck are you on for that matter?
The quote is what Hopkins said to Calzaghe. You with this? ::**
Well for starters, Puerto Ricans arent viewed as white in the states,not even closeQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
You said he considered the white man inferior,how does that relate to his comments about Puerto Rico or Tito?
Oh wait,they dont,not even slightly
And if you had even an iota of a clue about how people talk in that part of the country you wouldnt care about what he said.
Monkey is confusing the hell out of me what the hell is he talking about ?? its obvious that Hopkins was referring to white people being inferior, i think your being very biased Monkey i mean you did think Hopkins beat Roy Jones ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I think your being very biased yourself
THAT IS HOW PEOPLE SPEAK IN THAT PART OF THE US
DO YOU GET IT NOW
MAYBE,JUST A LITTLE ???
BERNARD IS OLDER THEN I AM,AND I GREW UP WITH PEOPLE TALKING LIKE THAT
DO YOU FREAKING GET IT YET ???
Bilbo, I respect what you're saying, and I think there's a point there. My only issue is that blacks can be every bit as racist as whites. I grew up saying things about white people because that's what I heard older people around me saying, but at a certain point in my life I questioned as to why I would say or think those things. Being poor doesn't exempt you from being racist and just because you've been descriminated against doesn't mean you have to harbor those selfsame feelings as your oppressor. Just because you hate me doesn't dictate how I should feel about you and there are many people, from black to white who feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Monkey you dopey bastard, those were Hopkins comments to Calzaghe. Why would he have said that to a Puerto Rican?
Fenster you dopey bastard,you brought it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Explain what he did to Trinidad then ?? stop making excuse's for him, i have hardly ever heard a black boxer from any part of the USA say *I won't let a white man beat me* maybe just maybe Hopkins is a racist ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I see what your saying Liquid,but as Ive tried to point out,its not poverty as such,its how people talk there,and tribes
You dont want your ass coming home beaten in by a member of the other tribe
Its not even racism,where you try to oppress another person,which is really what racism is,or not wanting to associate with another race,which is also racism
You just dont want to let down your tribe,as it were,its almost a neighborhood thing,you dont want to let down the neighborhood by getting your ass kicked
Its just in Philly your neighborhood is decided by your race,so you just learn to say things like "white boy",and "black boy"
Hell everytime my grandfather got in to it legally he would tell me how he was getting his "jew lawyer",and he didnt even mean it as a bad thing,he was saying he had a better lawyer then the other guy
Christ,every time I was in lockup "hey white boy" was how theyd get my attention
If you dont know where he's coming from,dont say you know,because you dont
What he did with Trinidad was in excusable,and it wasnt race,it was nationality,and even Bernard acknowledged itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Trinidad has either alot of black,or alot of Indian in him,he isnt white,not even close