Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
What facts have u used? When are u gonna write a response to fan johnny telling him he was wrong for saying PBF was 3 divisions heavier than Pac, or that he should fight Kessler for cred? He is far more wrong than me so off u go, rebutt a fellow Pacfanboy.
Oh thats right he supported Pac so he must be right...
I'm rebutting your incorrect statementt that PAC is the bigger guy when he fought MAB, JMM and Erik... Here's some facts... The weigh-in weights:
PAC (125 lbs) vs. MAB (126 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (129.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (128.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
PAC (129 lbs.) vs. JMM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
You need more facts ??
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
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1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
Why laughed on the 1 lb. difference? You want a 4 lbs. difference? That's already 1 division apart !! This only shows that you're also an ignorant boxing fan...
When I gave you facts (recorded facts), you only laughed and then ask for some vague info. No one is keeping official record of fight night weights...
I'm sticking to my point that Morales is always bigger than PAC... If they will weigh-in today, I'm 99% sure Morales weighs heavier than PAC...
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
I'm using facts and I'm a PAC fan ...
What facts have u used? When are u gonna write a response to fan johnny telling him he was wrong for saying PBF was 3 divisions heavier than Pac, or that he should fight Kessler for cred? He is far more wrong than me so off u go, rebutt a fellow Pacfanboy.
Oh thats right he supported Pac so he must be right...
I'm rebutting your incorrect statementt that PAC is the bigger guy when he fought MAB, JMM and Erik... Here's some facts... The weigh-in weights:
PAC (125 lbs) vs. MAB (126 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (129.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (128.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
PAC (129 lbs.) vs. JMM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
You need more facts ??
Lol, like if those aren't the cut weights/
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
What facts have u used? When are u gonna write a response to fan johnny telling him he was wrong for saying PBF was 3 divisions heavier than Pac, or that he should fight Kessler for cred? He is far more wrong than me so off u go, rebutt a fellow Pacfanboy.
Oh thats right he supported Pac so he must be right...
I'm rebutting your incorrect statementt that PAC is the bigger guy when he fought MAB, JMM and Erik... Here's some facts... The weigh-in weights:
PAC (125 lbs) vs. MAB (126 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (129.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (128.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
PAC (129 lbs.) vs. JMM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
You need more facts ??
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
.5lb
1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
More examples
Roy jones 169.5 v Felix Trinidad 170. Who is bigger?
Bernard hopkins 170 Winky Wright 170. Who is bigger?
Cory Spinks 159.75 v Jermaine Taylor 159.75. Who is Bigger?
As u can see weigh ins mean fukk all when it comes to who is naturally the bigger man.
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
I'm rebutting your incorrect statementt that PAC is the bigger guy when he fought MAB, JMM and Erik... Here's some facts... The weigh-in weights:
PAC (125 lbs) vs. MAB (126 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (129.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (128.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
PAC (129 lbs.) vs. JMM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
You need more facts ??
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
.5lb
1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
More examples
Roy jones 169.5 v Felix Trinidad 170. Who is bigger?
Bernard hopkins 170 Winky Wright 170. Who is bigger?
Cory Spinks 159.75 v Jermaine Taylor 159.75. Who is Bigger?
As u can see weigh ins mean fukk all when it comes to who is naturally the bigger man.
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
.5lb
1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
More examples
Roy jones 169.5 v Felix Trinidad 170. Who is bigger?
Bernard hopkins 170 Winky Wright 170. Who is bigger?
Cory Spinks 159.75 v Jermaine Taylor 159.75. Who is Bigger?
As u can see weigh ins mean fukk all when it comes to who is naturally the bigger man.
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
Kassim Ouma weighed unproportionally heavy when he fought Jermain Taylor.
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boozeboxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
Kassim Ouma weighed unproportionally heavy when he fought Jermain Taylor.
Thats it exactly. Ouma and Taylor weighed similiar amounts at the weigh in but Taylor was by far the bigger man. Happens all the time.
Trinidad outweighed Hopkins when they fought, but Bernard is a much bigger stronger guy.
Duran outweighed Hearns at their weigh in.
Loads of examples.
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These are facts :
Majority of Pacquiao's fights up to 24 yrs old are at 112 and 122. He had 3 fights at 126. he is 5'6 with 67 reach
Floyd Mayeather Jr. Never fought below 130 and had 11 fights @135 up to age 24. He is 5'8 with 72 reach.
Floyd mayweather Jr is Bigger than Pacquiao? Yes he is. You must be an idiot if you dont think so.
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These are facts :
Majority of Pacquiao's fights up to 24 yrs old are at 112 and 122. He had 3 fights at 126. he is 5'6 with 67 reach
Floyd Mayeather Jr. Never fought below 130 and had 11 fights @135 up to age 24. He is 5'8 with 72 reach.
Floyd mayweather Jr is Bigger than Pacquiao? Yes he is. You must be an idiot if you dont think so.
I did not ever say Floyd wasnt bigger than Pac. I said they were similiar in size. Floyd is 5 ft 7, Pac 5 ft 6 only one inch not 2 and they both walk around between fights between 145-150.
Just cos Pac fought at smaller weights years ago doesnt mean that they arent similiar in size now.
You are an idiot not me, moron Lang. Just another nuthugger
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eagle
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miron_lang
These are facts :
Majority of Pacquiao's fights up to 24 yrs old are at 112 and 122. He had 3 fights at 126. he is 5'6 with 67 reach
Floyd Mayeather Jr. Never fought below 130 and had 11 fights @135 up to age 24. He is 5'8 with 72 reach.
Floyd mayweather Jr is Bigger than Pacquiao? Yes he is. You must be an idiot if you dont think so.
I did not ever say Floyd wasnt bigger than Pac. I said they were similiar in size. Floyd is 5 ft 7, Pac 5 ft 6 only one inch not 2 and they both walk around between fights between 145-150.
Just cos Pac fought at smaller weights years ago doesnt mean that they arent similiar in size now.
You are an idiot not me, moron Lang. Just another nuthugger
hahahahaha
I didnt quote you. i didn't say you're an idiot :)
BTW Im not just another nuthugger. I'm 'THE' Nuthugger :cool:
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eagle
did not ever say Floyd wasnt bigger than Pac
That's good enough for me.
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
.5lb
1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
More examples
Roy jones 169.5 v Felix Trinidad 170. Who is bigger?
Bernard hopkins 170 Winky Wright 170. Who is bigger?
Cory Spinks 159.75 v Jermaine Taylor 159.75. Who is Bigger?
As u can see weigh ins mean fukk all when it comes to who is naturally the bigger man.
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
Funny... PAC is bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera ?? I think EM, JMM and MAB will not ever accept that PAC is stronger than them... Faster maybe but not stronger...
More muscles ?? PAC is cheating coz he carries far more muscles than everybody else... LOL
Here's your original statement:
"Pac is naturally bigger than MArquez, Barrera, and Morales, but Pacfans didnt see that as a problem when he fought them...."
PAC is never a bigger guy specially compared to Morales...
BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy...
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
How ignorant are you? Why are you presenting the weights of other boxers when we're talking about PAC vs. MAB / JMM / EM ... Your statement that PAC is bigger when he fought MAB, JMM and EM is incorrect... Back it up with facts from PAC, MAB, JMM and EM and not records of other boxers...
Weigh-in weights is an indication of who is the bigger boxer... It might not holds true in all cases but it's an indication...
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Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
Funny... PAC is bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera ?? I think EM, JMM and MAB will not ever accept that PAC is stronger than them... Faster maybe but not stronger...
More muscles ?? PAC is cheating coz he carries far more muscles than everybody else... LOL
Here's your original statement:
"Pac is naturally bigger than MArquez, Barrera, and Morales, but Pacfans didnt see that as a problem when he fought them...."
PAC is never a bigger guy specially compared to Morales...
BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy...
Well why are u and evry other Pac fan around going on about how great Pacs achievment of fighting and beating the bigger ODLH is? Acoording to your quote:
"BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy."
In saying that u say that in fact Pac did not even beat a bigger guy, they were the same size cos they decided to fight at the same weight....
Of course 2 guys can be fighting in same division and one can be far bigger than the other. If Pac fought Paul WIlliams at 147 he'd be far smaller.
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Eagle has the only one that has made a good post in for the last few pages or so. Good posting these Manny Pacquiao fan boys haven't got a clue. And there letting the unbiased Manny Pacquiao fans on here like Pacfan and the others down.
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Eagle has the only one that has made a good post in for the last few pages or so. Good posting these Manny Pacquiao fan boys haven't got a clue. And there letting the unbiased Manny Pacquiao fans on here like Pacfan and the others down.
I made a good post. :(
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
Weighj in weights are no real indication of who is the bigger guy. Thats why i ised the other examples. You show your total lack of knowledge by even putting those weights up.
Ic ould find dozens of examples of fighters who weighed similiar in the weigh in but one guy is far bigger naturally.
The point im making that Pac is naturally a bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera is true. There is no disputing that.
The fact he was lighter on fight night has a lot to do with the fact he trains harder and has a fantastic ability to shed weight easily. Not cos he is the smaller man.
Big deal if Morales weighs more than Pac now he is probably fat cos he doesnt train anymore. Morales would look ridiculous fighting at 147, fat and bloated, but Pac looks quite reasonable at that weight, still ripped and muscular.
Funny... PAC is bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera ?? I think EM, JMM and MAB will not ever accept that PAC is stronger than them... Faster maybe but not stronger...
More muscles ?? PAC is cheating coz he carries far more muscles than everybody else... LOL
Here's your original statement:
"Pac is naturally bigger than MArquez, Barrera, and Morales, but Pacfans didnt see that as a problem when he fought them...."
PAC is never a bigger guy specially compared to Morales...
BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy...
Well why are u and evry other Pac fan around going on about how great Pacs achievment of fighting and beating the bigger ODLH is? Acoording to your quote:
"BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy."
In saying that u say that in fact Pac did not even beat a bigger guy, they were the same size cos they decided to fight at the same weight....
Of course 2 guys can be fighting in same division and one can be far bigger than the other. If Pac fought Paul WIlliams at 147 he'd be far smaller.
I dunno know... I never bragged how my pick of Pacquiao to beat Hoya became a reality... I think I only stick to one point before and after the fight that PAC's speed kills Hoya...
When 2 guys agreed to fight in a certain agreed weight, size is no more a reason or an excuse for defeat... Did you hear defeated guys saying "Oh I lost to a bigger opponent"? None... nada... Size is not a factor or an issue to the warring boxers since they both agreed to fight... It's the fans who use size as a reason (or excuse) why his boy lost...
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
I'm rebutting your incorrect statementt that PAC is the bigger guy when he fought MAB, JMM and Erik... Here's some facts... The weigh-in weights:
PAC (125 lbs) vs. MAB (126 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (129.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 1st fight
PAC (128.5 lbs) vs. EM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
PAC (129 lbs.) vs. JMM (130 lbs.) 2nd fight
You need more facts ??
HAHAHAHAHA
1 lb
.5lb
1.5lb
1lb
Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
Why laughed on the 1 lb. difference? You want a 4 lbs. difference? That's already 1 division apart !! This only shows that you're also an ignorant boxing fan...
When I gave you facts (recorded facts), you only laughed and then ask for some vague info. No one is keeping official record of fight night weights...
I'm sticking to my point that Morales is always bigger than PAC... If they will weigh-in today, I'm 99% sure Morales weighs heavier than PAC...
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Are you shittin me??? You were one of the main guys bragging that when Pac fought at 130 he rehydrated to 147, and now because he weighed 1lb less on the scale that he wasnt the bigger guy come fight night..:rolleyes:
