The beginning of a new age in Heavyweight Boxing

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Originally Posted by Lyle

RookieFan, the division is not shit it's just the good fighters and title holders aren't fighting each other and no one is taking any risks! The last risk any big time heavyweight took was the Klitschko-Peter fight.

There are outside elements keeping these titles from being unified and EVERYONE knows it.


Lucifer, Wlad is not fighting the "least credible champ" that would be Oleg Maskaev!

Sultan beat Briggs to win the title and defended against Holyfield and that beats what Maskaev did (Oleg beat Rahman to win the vacant title and defended against Peter Okhello). Sultan is also UNDEFEATED sure he has had his issues in the past but being undefeated is no easy task.


Why must you guys seek out the bad in the division? Why can't you look for the good? There are more evenly matched fights in this division and there are more guys who can contend for the titles in this division when compared to any other but yet it's "a crap division" in your opinion.

Even if Wlad unified all the titles people would still hate on him and this division, it happens all the time to all boxers who are successful

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Actually Lyle I don't hate Wlad. But I was saying that basically using the logic started in this thread that Wlad (the winner now) is the linear champ based on his win over another champ, then the winner of the Peter-Makaev fight could fight the Wba champ and the winner of that fight could also claim to be the linear champ.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hey you can have your opinion, it's wrong but hey you don't like the division don't post about it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFnUBr14LyY


Bert Sugar says the heavyweight division isn't dead....and I respect his opinion.

Wladimir wants to be the ONE true heavyweight champion and this is a stepping stone to become that...you can't do anything but praise him for trying to unify

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I do praise him for wanting to unify. Then he can be the linear/undisputed champion. And hopefully then he can tell the boxing groups to go to hell.

Exactly! If there was just ONE title then things would be so much easier.

Wladimir has 3 belts and 2 supply a steady flow of mandatories who are usually either bums or only recognized highly under that sanctioning body because that's the only one they pay dues to.

BOXING as a whole would be better off with a ranking system like that of College Football or Basketball.

Wladimir right now has to fight the 2 mandatories and then try and schedule a unfication bout when either Chagaev or Peter/Maskaev winner has a free spot available....that's a lot to get right at the correct time.

Wladimir is the unofficial Heavyweight Champion of the World right now....and due to the other sanctioning bodies we have no idea how to fill out the top 5 much less top 10

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I feel the quality of the fight was tarnished primarily by Sultan's hesitance to exchange after tasing Wladmir's power.
It's hard to look impresive against a man only concerned with self preservation on his mind.

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Exactly. I want to see the KO and the right more, but fight sucked because of Sultan, not Wlad. Sultan didn't fight to win...he fought to survive.

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

Exactly. I want to see the KO and the right more, but fight sucked because of Sultan, not Wlad. Sultan didn't fight to win...he fought to survive.

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I agree... Of course the Jab was gonna be hard to get through... Everyone knew that... But to virtually not get through it at all? Showed a lack of hunger:-\

Well not only that, his hesitation did display that he was intimidated. Sultan pretty much demonstrated that he is not one of the big boys nor will he ever be. Sad bu true as I had credited him for his courage accepting the fight