Re: Anyone Want To Doubt Joe Calzaghe Again??
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Althugz
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LondonBB
Definately against pavlik. Pavlik is a v good fighter, hungry, powerful, exciting and great ko ratio, the clash of styles will be great to watch in the ring, if joe pulls off his slick boxing skills and combo's pavlik is in for trouble and will go down, but if pavlik can come forward and hit joe hard then joe will go down. I predict joe will tie him up in the middle of the ring like he did against lacy and fire in combos, start brawling with pavlik and be too fast for him, calzaghe to win this one. After calzaghe wins, the haters will still not rate calzaghe, theyll still find an excuse or some silly !
I think you're slighty deluded if you think that Calzaghe's best chance of beating Pavlik is to 'brawl' with him. He'll get knocked the fuck out.
I think he beats Pavlik with his speed and footwork but Calzaghe isn't going to come close to 'putting him down'.
I think you should watch the taylor pavlik first fight. Look what happened when taylor and pavlik went at it in the middle of the ring against each other. Pavlik's defence let him down and he was floored in second round!
People said exactly the same thing about byron mitchell...look what happened;)
People said exactly the same thing about lacy...'for heavens sake calzaghe, you mustnt go and brawl with him'...so what did calzaghe do??? He ran straight in and started brawling with him in the middle of the ring...then look what happened;)
Calzaghe loves to brawl more than 99% of other fighters, the guy is like a gypsy boxer, watch his fights and youll see he loves to come in for a brawl. Thats exactly the reason i like him so much as he can fight at range and brawl and counter aswell.
You think it will be a mistake for calzaghe to brawl in the middle with pavlik like taylor did (when he floored him in the second round)?
Maybe it will be a mistake, but we'll have to wait n see...all i can say is that people all screamed 'dont brawl' with byron mitchell, then they all screamed 'dont brawl' with lacy...the rest is history;)
Re: Anyone Want To Doubt Joe Calzaghe Again??
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Originally Posted by
LondonBB
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Originally Posted by
Althugz
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Originally Posted by
LondonBB
Definately against pavlik. Pavlik is a v good fighter, hungry, powerful, exciting and great ko ratio, the clash of styles will be great to watch in the ring, if joe pulls off his slick boxing skills and combo's pavlik is in for trouble and will go down, but if pavlik can come forward and hit joe hard then joe will go down. I predict joe will tie him up in the middle of the ring like he did against lacy and fire in combos, start brawling with pavlik and be too fast for him, calzaghe to win this one. After calzaghe wins, the haters will still not rate calzaghe, theyll still find an excuse or some silly !
I think you're slighty deluded if you think that Calzaghe's best chance of beating Pavlik is to 'brawl' with him. He'll get knocked the fuck out.
I think he beats Pavlik with his speed and footwork but Calzaghe isn't going to come close to 'putting him down'.
I think you should watch the taylor pavlik first fight. Look what happened when taylor and pavlik went at it in the middle of the ring against each other. Pavlik's defence let him down and he was floored in second round!
People said exactly the same thing about byron mitchell...look what happened;)
People said exactly the same thing about lacy...'for heavens sake calzaghe, you mustnt go and brawl with him'...so what did calzaghe do??? He ran straight in and started brawling with him in the middle of the ring...then look what happened;)
Calzaghe loves to brawl more than 99% of other fighters, the guy is like a gypsy boxer, watch his fights and youll see he loves to come in for a brawl. Thats exactly the reason i like him so much as he can fight at range and brawl and counter aswell.
You think it will be a mistake for calzaghe to brawl in the middle with pavlik like taylor did (when he floored him in the second round)?
Maybe it will be a mistake, but we'll have to wait n see...all i can say is that people all screamed 'dont brawl' with byron mitchell, then they all screamed 'dont brawl' with lacy...the rest is history;)
I agree Calzaghe does seem to love to trade shots in the middle of the ring IMO the reason he has been so successful at it is his hand speed and volume of punches though...He does not really hit that hard...he is not a KO puncher until the punches start to pile up does he usually stop a guy...Thing is though what will ahppen against a young guy who can stay in there and trade the volume with him?....Hasn't happened yet but just a what if you have to question....
IMO to stand and trade with Kelly would be a mistake for him big time simply because of that reason...lack of power....I don't know if he can make Kelly respect his punches enough to keep him honest so to speak...
Either way though I still go with Joe....He always seems to pull it out and no one ever seems to give him the credit for it ?
Re: Anyone Want To Doubt Joe Calzaghe Again??
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DaxxKahn
He does not really hit that hard...he is not a KO puncher until the punches start to pile up does he usually stop a guy...Thing is though what will ahppen against a young guy who can stay in there and trade the volume with him?....Hasn't happened yet but just a what if you have to question....
IMO to stand and trade with Kelly would be a mistake for him big time simply because of that reason...lack of power....I don't know if he can make Kelly respect his punches enough to keep him honest so to speak...
Either way though I still go with Joe....He always seems to pull it out and no one ever seems to give him the credit for it ?
Exactly my point. London BB you mention Byron Mitchell but Byron Mitchell also knocked down Calzaghe..believe me if Pavlik knocks him down he's not getting back up like he did against Byron.
The Lacy fight was just accumulation and I don't consider that a brawl because Lacy was throwing one shot at a time whilst Calzaghe was using angles. You can't have a 'brawl' throwing one punch at a time.
Finally, Daxx, I did give Joe credit after the Kessler win..I was really impressed and said that he was the real deal. I said that he probably always was but didn't have the competition to show it. After the Bhop fight though, it just kinda reminded me about the things I used to hate about Calzaghe. The slappy punches, the rushing in with no defence etc. I don't know whether that's testament to Bhop for making him look ugly. Calzaghe seems to be one of those classic 'best form of defence is offence' kind of guys because he seemed against Bhop to have no defence beyond his punches.
Roll on Roy Jones Vs Calzaghe I guess..
