Margarito caught cheating?

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Originally Posted by belakbox

I'll wait and see what the official outcome is, but I too think it would be extremely odd for margarito to be cheating, being that he always extremely professional in and outside of the ring. We shall see. I think the whole issue will just go away and the fights will keep coming. The corners will just need to be more watchful in the future.

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That's the problem. Or maybe not. There's really nothing wrong about being too watchful. It's part of their job. But they might as well do business discretely and keep it to themselves and agree to terms on what is legal, what is it that they prefer. I think that is what exactly happened when you take a better look at it. They changed the wraps thrice. Sounds like they finally agreed to each other by then. But the media..the fukkin HBO.. They made things worst. So bad that it can tarnish and ruin a man's legacy forever. If Cotto's camp taught it was ok (I'm sure they saw it and wass fully aware of it) and Naazim Richardson taught it wasn't appropriate..they can't call that cheating and that is not cheating. the fact that they have to unwrap thrice..you know its not cheating. its simply something they didn't agreed instantly. The media..especially Jim Lampley..needs to get in the ring with Tony and taste some bareknuckles.

I agree - let's wait and see what happens.

Let's also not forget that sweet innocent Shane was officially found to be a steroid abuser. Boxing has never been a clean sport but let's not jump to conclusions about Margarito until they are proven.

Maybe the plaster of paris was leaking from his chin ;D

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Danny I would flush your ass if I could. I find your threads to be similar to royal's, albeit more graphic.

Here is what we know:

Lampley kept saying the same shit over and over and over about his hand wraps. No evidence. I find if funny that HBO boxing (which seems to think it is necessary to inject drama into everything) didn't show this "cast." Because nobody had cameras of any kind in the dressing room..... yeah right.
So what we have is Lampley (I guess beauty queens don't require hand wraps) unilaterally making accusations to an entire camp who doesn't speak english on broadcasted television. That my friends is a tragedy. Lampley is the true cheat.

Further, Margarito didn't fight with this alleged "cast." When something that was probably more mind games requiring Margarito to rewrap his hands 3 times puts a question mark over an entire career is really sad. It is sad to think boxing fans could be that naive or so fair-weather.

Finally, Mosely is no saint himself. Being the subject of a steroid invetigation, even if Margarito did use something illegal, it is not as if he was using it on someone who was above doing anything to get an edge on an opponent.

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That is indeed the saddest part. Understable to hear shiits from die hard narrow-minded bitter Cotto fans. But to say that the he is nothing without those 'casts'. thats bullshiit. Like I said above, he didn't reach this point because of this plaster of paris. And Mosley as well didn't won tonight because Tony didn't have these casts. Fukk 'em. Fukk Lampley. Fukk HBO. Fukk the media.

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

I've always thought of Margarito as a natural junior middleweight fighting as a welter thus gaining obvious advantage in natural size and strength over most of his opponents. Tonight was a payback for the tons of smaller fighters he has victimized.

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Yes I've always taught the same. But really he is a natural welterweight. To prove you that, he hit the scales weighing 145.8 pounds last night. I don't think a guy too big for 147 can afford nor would manage to do so. and ohh.. Mosley weighed over the limit and has to sweat it out more last night.

Is this true? Gotta go for Cotto to win a rematch now then! No wonder his nose broke early on when they fought.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by belakbox

True. I'm giving Margarito full credit for all his accomplishments unless he's somehow proven guilty. I don't think anything will come of it and the fights will move on. But I can understand fans being upset at the accusation and the findings in the article that was posted. The corners will need to keep a watchful eye on their opponents in the future and show up prepared. Boxing has always been a shady sport.

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Fans are upset because they can not take a Cotto defeat. And when i say fans, I mean DAnny. He has 3 alts on here and is the only one winding up unnecessarily on here.

Cotto isn't the best welterweight out there. I can live with it. Some people can't.

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Well said i think if Suger shane that fbeat Margo last night had shown up against Cotto, and it was close anyway, Cotto would have had 2 losses on his record.

Not having the plaster hand wraps did not make Margarito throw half the punches per round he usually does.

Props to Mosely and his team for a great gameplan. Forced Tony to fight going back, smothered him where he couldn't really get off.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Danny I would flush your ass if I could. I find your threads to be similar to royal's, albeit more graphic.

Here is what we know:

Lampley kept saying the same shit over and over and over about his hand wraps. No evidence. I find if funny that HBO boxing (which seems to think it is necessary to inject drama into everything) didn't show this "cast." Because nobody had cameras of any kind in the dressing room..... yeah right.
So what we have is Lampley (I guess beauty queens don't require hand wraps) unilaterally making accusations to an entire camp who doesn't speak english on broadcasted television. That my friends is a tragedy. Lampley is the true cheat.

Further, Margarito didn't fight with this alleged "cast." When something that was probably more mind games requiring Margarito to rewrap his hands 3 times puts a question mark over an entire career is really sad. It is sad to think boxing fans could be that naive or so fair-weather.

Finally, Mosely is no saint himself. Being the subject of a steroid invetigation, even if Margarito did use something illegal, it is not as if he was using it on someone who was above doing anything to get an edge on an opponent.

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Totally agree Booze.Inflamatory rhetoric run amoke and the timing and sensationalized glee of Lampley would make Day time soap opera divas envious.Why must there always be much such shite talking and side bar plot points after a night of fights ??Lets stick to FACTS for a change!Shane fought his azz off lastnight and wrecked Margarito like no other for a great convincing victory.Thats what I'll remember.....for some time no doubt.All of this other crap is just that!!

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Originally Posted by Jman76

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Without your cheating hand wraps Tony, you aint shiet!

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Thank you FHUCKING shane for exposing the cheater!

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Wait a second here, didn't Mosley use illegal substance(s) against Oscar in 2003?

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AFAIK, in 2003 "The Clear" was not illegal, nor was it even classified as a steroid.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by belakbox

True. I'm giving Margarito full credit for all his accomplishments unless he's somehow proven guilty. I don't think anything will come of it and the fights will move on. But I can understand fans being upset at the accusation and the findings in the article that was posted. The corners will need to keep a watchful eye on their opponents in the future and show up prepared. Boxing has always been a shady sport.

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Fans are upset because they can not take a Cotto defeat. And when i say fans, I mean DAnny. He has 3 alts on here and is the only one winding up unnecessarily on here.

Cotto isn't the best welterweight out there. I can live with it. Some people can't.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

I thought Danny was over Cotto's defeat? Guess not..

Let's be honest here...we don't know if it is crap or not. I hope it is, and if so...goes away fast. Because ya know...I gained a lot of respect for Margo in his fight with Cotto. I'd hate to see it be this. I'd hate to see it be this for the black mark it'd leave on the sport I love and compete in.

But if it is true, I hope you guys will treat it as such and not sugar coat it, and admonish the behavior. And if it is proved otherwise...hope those slinging mud without proof will let it go.

It probably won't happen like that...but it certainly should.

I suppose what we need to hope for most, is a quick answer.

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Originally Posted by GAME

True. and these folks should realize the outcome most probably would have been the same even if the 'handwrapping' controversy isn't exposed. I don't think these plaster of paris shiit would have made him won tonight. Not at all. Does that make his punches more accurate? NO. Does that make his punches harder? Maybe. Probably. But I don't think it exaggerately increases the sting of his punches. Wtf.. I don't think that plaster is like 10x harder than his knuckles! Shane Mosley did turn back the clock and delivered an awesome performance. That's it.

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Great point. From a boxing perspective results like this just show how styles make fights. Cotto beats Mosely. Magarito beats Cotto. So surely Magarito must beat Mosely ? I actually thought Mosely would win this fight, not by TKO, but by points. You put Magarito in with a top class boxer who will give him movement and angles and throw flurry of punches and he’ll lose. His much vaunted chin was nothing. He has no skills, what so ever. To think people actually thought he had a chance against Mayweather (lol)

After this I have lost all respect for Magarito. I thought his defeat of Cotto was too dominant to be true. Without his hands of stone he get’s owned by a fading Mosely. If mosely, who top fighter though he is, but past his best can beat him then one can only imagine what a prime 27 year old Cotto can do to him. All Magaritos victories don’t mean ANYTHING anymore. He is the Ben Johnson of Boxing.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy

This is fucked up... I have NO doubt that Margarito used the same shit to break Cotto's face up like that. That was NOT normal.

Tony MargaCHEATO shame on you you fake ass champion...


In Tito's case it was a "mind fck" on the part of Hopkins camp. Margarito got CAUGHT!!!


Cotto is going to KILL him in June. "No plaster" Tony gets DESTROYED.

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With out the plaster of Pariz, Cotto takes Tony to school every round just like Mosley did.

Phuking shame on Tony Margashieto, what a motha phuker he is. I hope he get's run over by a truck, a giant truck. Wait! Not until Miguel Cotto gets his revenge over that cheating paisa.

What about his wins over Cintron?

Cintron has to be pissed and is probably saying no wonder this biatch beat me too.

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Oh stop alrady Danny...Your starting to embaress yourself looking for ANY reason...to make excuses for a fight from 6 months ago that you have no idea on what happened...Making assumptions...

I got $100 that you have either 2 accounts or you know th other idiot who started this thread.....

If your going to start a thread or post it is possible that is one thing but you are acting like a fucking ESB poster...worse Boxing insider..

Have some neg rep for being a douche

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Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy

Yo BoozeBoxer, STFU.

Margarito is DONE. Plaster of Paris confirmed in tests. Cotto must be furious...

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Shut up Danny