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agreed with the Sanchez/Chavez fight, i think Morales/MAB gives a good idea how it would look, style wise Morales always looking similar to Sanchez IMO and Barrera more like Chavez, but nothing is better than the original, so i think it would have been a war, with Sanchez pulling out ahead at the end
i think Ketchel would win by TKO in the 8th, he would eat up everything Mugabi would give him, and since his chin was so damn impressive, well that combined with his intimidating nature, he would break down Mugabi and finally sink him with one of his cinderblock like shots
Carlos Ortiz Vs Roberto Duran at 135
Duran would get the better of the middle rounds and ortiz would end up having to chase the fight that would play into robertos hands. Duran inside 10.
Mayweather Snr vs Mayweather Jnr
big Floyd showed that he was very hittable and willing to trade even if hurt in his fight against Leonard, so i think that PBF would just start slow and then when Big Floyd would start to come on he would just get pot shotted and then finally stopped around the 11th
Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Similar result to Carter fight. Trinidad KO1.
Primo Carnera Vs Nikolai Valuev
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Duran would get the better of the middle rounds and ortiz would end up having to chase the fight that would play into robertos hands. Duran inside 10.
Mayweather Snr vs Mayweather Jnr
big Floyd showed that he was very hittable and willing to trade even if hurt in his fight against Leonard, so i think that PBF would just start slow and then when Big Floyd would start to come on he would just get pot shotted and then finally stopped around the 11th
Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Similar result to Carter fight. Trinidad KO1.
Primo Carnera Vs Nikolai Valuev
the promoter, cause they'd hold it at a circus, "The 2 Dancing Bears"
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Hagler Calzaghe is a tough call. As long as Hagler does his homework, and can handle the extra weight, I think he is too tough for calzaghe. Calzaghe won't be able to hurt him.
Benitez - Trinidad ?
Trinidad TKO 10 or UD, i think Benitez would make Trinidad work but would be too small to handle Tito's punches for the full 12 rnds
Ivan Calderon Vs Ricardo Lopez 108
Lopez via late TKO..
I think while Calderon is good on his feet he is still very hittable and Cazares showed that. If Cazares was able to catch and hurt him I have no doubts that not only would Lopez precise punching but his spectacular power would catch Calderon and put him to sleep.
I can't help it but think that Lopez skills being levels above Cazares and being a come forward style he wouldn't have to worry about Calderons punches and he'd def. beat him. I'd put the house on that...
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Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Emile by points...
Anyone who thinks Emile would be stopped by Tito and bases it off the Rubin TKO is obviously not looking at the big picture.
Emile went into the Rubin fight unprepared and having just fought twice while moving up & down in weight.
He payed the cost but you can't judge him or base that performance for a matchup. I'm assuming the fights are at peak top shape and at their best.
Which is where I based my decision on, when I went with Emile by points.
I think Emile would have outboxed Tito through 12 or 15 either one I see Emile sweeping him and wining a comfortable decision on points. Titos always had problems with movers and Emile would be no easy mark for him to land on and I think Tito would be lost. Emile had a great jab and ring generalship as great as anyones.
This is nothing agains picking Tito to win, after all it's a mythical matchup this is against saying he'd beat him just like Rubin did... Which I find absurd.
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ElTerribleMorales
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Hagler Calzaghe is a tough call. As long as Hagler does his homework, and can handle the extra weight, I think he is too tough for calzaghe. Calzaghe won't be able to hurt him.
Benitez - Trinidad ?
Trinidad TKO 10 or UD, i think Benitez would make Trinidad work but would be too small to handle Tito's punches for the full 12 rnds
Ivan Calderon Vs Ricardo Lopez 108
Lopez via late TKO..
I think while Calderon is good on his feet he is still very hittable and Cazares showed that. If Cazares was able to catch and hurt him I have no doubts that not only would Lopez precise punching but his spectacular power would catch Calderon and put him to sleep.
I can't help it but think that Lopez skills being levels above Cazares and being a come forward style he wouldn't have to worry about Calderons punches and he'd def. beat him. I'd put the house on that...
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ElTerribleMorales
Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Emile by points...
Anyone who thinks Emile would be stopped by Tito and bases it off the Rubin TKO is obviously not looking at the big picture.
Emile went into the Rubin fight unprepared and having just fought twice while moving up & down in weight.
He payed the cost but you can't judge him or base that performance for a matchup. I'm assuming the fights are at peak top shape and at their best.
Which is where I based my decision on, when I went with Emile by points.
I think Emile would have outboxed Tito through 12 or 15 either one I see Emile sweeping him and wining a comfortable decision on points. Titos always had problems with movers and Emile would be no easy mark for him to land on and I think Tito would be lost. Emile had a great jab and ring generalship as great as anyones.
This is nothing agains picking Tito to win, after all it's a mythical matchup this is against saying he'd beat him just like Rubin did... Which I find absurd.
i agree with you that it would be no walk in the park, but i think that goes for both fighters, Griffith recovered well but he also could be hurt, Paret wasn't really a big puncher and he hurt Griffith by his own admission multiple times, so i'd say that Trinidad would hurt Griffith late (at around the 11th, and after picking himself up off the floor) and would stop him on the ropes for a standing TKO, but can easily see it go for Griffith, really a 50/50 fight
MAB Vs JC Chavez at 130
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Trinidad TKO 10 or UD, i think Benitez would make Trinidad work but would be too small to handle Tito's punches for the full 12 rnds
Ivan Calderon Vs Ricardo Lopez 108
Lopez via late TKO..
I think while Calderon is good on his feet he is still very hittable and Cazares showed that. If Cazares was able to catch and hurt him I have no doubts that not only would Lopez precise punching but his spectacular power would catch Calderon and put him to sleep.
I can't help it but think that Lopez skills being levels above Cazares and being a come forward style he wouldn't have to worry about Calderons punches and he'd def. beat him. I'd put the house on that...
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Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Emile by points...
Anyone who thinks Emile would be stopped by Tito and bases it off the Rubin TKO is obviously not looking at the big picture.
Emile went into the Rubin fight unprepared and having just fought twice while moving up & down in weight.
He payed the cost but you can't judge him or base that performance for a matchup. I'm assuming the fights are at peak top shape and at their best.
Which is where I based my decision on, when I went with Emile by points.
I think Emile would have outboxed Tito through 12 or 15 either one I see Emile sweeping him and wining a comfortable decision on points. Titos always had problems with movers and Emile would be no easy mark for him to land on and I think Tito would be lost. Emile had a great jab and ring generalship as great as anyones.
This is nothing agains picking Tito to win, after all it's a mythical matchup this is against saying he'd beat him just like Rubin did... Which I find absurd.
i agree with you that it would be no walk in the park, but i think that goes for both fighters, Griffith recovered well but he also could be hurt, Paret wasn't really a big puncher and he hurt Griffith by his own admission multiple times, so i'd say that Trinidad would hurt Griffith late (at around the 11th, and after picking himself up off the floor) and would stop him on the ropes for a standing TKO, but can easily see it go for Griffith, really a 50/50 fight
MAB Vs JC Chavez at 130
Emile was ONLY stopped twice in his career once as stated and the other by Monzon. He fought some of the hardest hitters in history I personally think he'd handle Tito well. Being hurt is one thing, I mean Trinidads chin in itself isn't the best, he used to hit the canvas often and hit the canvas in a lot of his fights by lesser punchers then Emile but notice how I went with the decision. Cortes dropped him, Stephens, Carr, Campas, Lushing dropped him.
But I just feel that it doesn't mean Emile would drop him...
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CutMeMick
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Trinidad TKO 10 or UD, i think Benitez would make Trinidad work but would be too small to handle Tito's punches for the full 12 rnds
Ivan Calderon Vs Ricardo Lopez 108
Lopez via late TKO..
I think while Calderon is good on his feet he is still very hittable and Cazares showed that. If Cazares was able to catch and hurt him I have no doubts that not only would Lopez precise punching but his spectacular power would catch Calderon and put him to sleep.
I can't help it but think that Lopez skills being levels above Cazares and being a come forward style he wouldn't have to worry about Calderons punches and he'd def. beat him. I'd put the house on that...
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Emille Griffith Vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147
Emile by points...
Anyone who thinks Emile would be stopped by Tito and bases it off the Rubin TKO is obviously not looking at the big picture.
Emile went into the Rubin fight unprepared and having just fought twice while moving up & down in weight.
He payed the cost but you can't judge him or base that performance for a matchup. I'm assuming the fights are at peak top shape and at their best.
Which is where I based my decision on, when I went with Emile by points.
I think Emile would have outboxed Tito through 12 or 15 either one I see Emile sweeping him and wining a comfortable decision on points. Titos always had problems with movers and Emile would be no easy mark for him to land on and I think Tito would be lost. Emile had a great jab and ring generalship as great as anyones.
This is nothing agains picking Tito to win, after all it's a mythical matchup this is against saying he'd beat him just like Rubin did... Which I find absurd.
i agree with you that it would be no walk in the park, but i think that goes for both fighters, Griffith recovered well but he also could be hurt, Paret wasn't really a big puncher and he hurt Griffith by his own admission multiple times, so i'd say that Trinidad would hurt Griffith late (at around the 11th, and after picking himself up off the floor) and would stop him on the ropes for a standing TKO, but can easily see it go for Griffith, really a 50/50 fight
MAB Vs JC Chavez at 130
JCC KO12 MAB - break him up and knock him out
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ElTerribleMorales
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CutMeMick
Lopez via late TKO..
I think while Calderon is good on his feet he is still very hittable and Cazares showed that. If Cazares was able to catch and hurt him I have no doubts that not only would Lopez precise punching but his spectacular power would catch Calderon and put him to sleep.
I can't help it but think that Lopez skills being levels above Cazares and being a come forward style he wouldn't have to worry about Calderons punches and he'd def. beat him. I'd put the house on that...
Emile by points...
Anyone who thinks Emile would be stopped by Tito and bases it off the Rubin TKO is obviously not looking at the big picture.
Emile went into the Rubin fight unprepared and having just fought twice while moving up & down in weight.
He payed the cost but you can't judge him or base that performance for a matchup. I'm assuming the fights are at peak top shape and at their best.
Which is where I based my decision on, when I went with Emile by points.
I think Emile would have outboxed Tito through 12 or 15 either one I see Emile sweeping him and wining a comfortable decision on points. Titos always had problems with movers and Emile would be no easy mark for him to land on and I think Tito would be lost. Emile had a great jab and ring generalship as great as anyones.
This is nothing agains picking Tito to win, after all it's a mythical matchup this is against saying he'd beat him just like Rubin did... Which I find absurd.
i agree with you that it would be no walk in the park, but i think that goes for both fighters, Griffith recovered well but he also could be hurt, Paret wasn't really a big puncher and he hurt Griffith by his own admission multiple times, so i'd say that Trinidad would hurt Griffith late (at around the 11th, and after picking himself up off the floor) and would stop him on the ropes for a standing TKO, but can easily see it go for Griffith, really a 50/50 fight
MAB Vs JC Chavez at 130
Emile was ONLY stopped twice in his career once as stated and the other by Monzon. He fought some of the hardest hitters in history I personally think he'd handle Tito well. Being hurt is one thing, I mean Trinidads chin in itself isn't the best, he used to hit the canvas often and hit the canvas in a lot of his fights by lesser punchers then Emile but notice how I went with the decision. Cortes dropped him, Stephens, Carr, Campas, Lushing dropped him.
But I just feel that it doesn't mean Emile would drop him...
agreed that Trinidad was floored a bit, that's why i said that Emille would probably have dropped him, but not stop him, i only went with Trinidad stopping him due to the fact that Tito was a GREAT finisher, once he had his man hurt he would systematically take him apart, not just throw wild punches, he'd mix it to the head and to the body, honestly like i said i find it a 50/50 fight, a winnable fight for both guys and by both ways KO just as easy as a decision, would have been classic
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Hearns V Paqman at 147?
Seriously? :rolleyes:
Hearns by KO as soon as first catches Pacquiao.
On the Trinidad-Griffith argument, I'd go with Emile by points if its a 12 rounder, or with a late TKO if its a 15 rounder.
Joe Frazier vs Mike Tyson?
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Tyson...
it would be like driving two trains at each other... only Frazier is a Cole Train and Tyson is a freight train.
La Motta - Calzaghe
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Tyson...
it would be like driving two trains at each other... only Frazier is a Cole Train and Tyson is a freight train.
La Motta - Calzaghe
Lamotta would eat up all of Calzaghe's slaps and then just run him down, winning a 15 rnd decision
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Tyson...
it would be like driving two trains at each other... only Frazier is a Cole Train and Tyson is a freight train.
La Motta - Calzaghe
Calzaghe would probably have just too much ring smarts to allow la-motta to turn it into an all out war and would end up cruising to a decision.
ike quartey vs manny pacquiao
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Tyson...
it would be like driving two trains at each other... only Frazier is a Cole Train and Tyson is a freight train.
La Motta - Calzaghe
Calzaghe would probably have just too much ring smarts to allow la-motta to turn it into an all out war and would end up cruising to a decision.
ike quartey vs manny pacquiao
Hard to say as we have only seen Pac against a washed up Oscar at 147. But he looked great nevertheless. I see this being close but with Pac probably outlanding and staying on his bike throughout. Pac MD.
Mike Tyson Vs Tim Witherspoon late 80's
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Tyson KO Witherspoon 2 rounds
Azumah Nelson v Bary McGuigan
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Tyson KO Witherspoon 2 rounds
Azumah Nelson v Bary McGuigan
Azumah would outbox Barry and win a comfortable unanimous decision.
Orlando Canizalez vs Naseem Hamed
