Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
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What I meant is that a Floyd-Pac fight ain't happening. It would be great for boxing but it just ain't happening while a Pacquiao-Mosley fight would definitely happen. Mosley beating Floyd sets up a Mosley-Pacquiao show-down, which would clear up the p4p and welterweight questions.
As an aside, Doug Fischer in his blog at RingTV below said that Floyd negotiated for an immediate rematch with Shane should Shane win. Is there any truth to this?
"Hi Dougie,
Long time reader here. First off, let me say that I sincerely hope I am wrong and you are right about Shane beating Floyd. I'm a big Mosley fan and have been for years. That said, speed kills - and I think people will be surprised at how slow Floyd will make Shane look. My greatest wish is for Shane to grind him down and stop him, but it just ain't happening. When's the last time you saw anyone able to consistently get to Floyd's body? Do you think it's because nobody's thought of that or tried? As much crap as the guy gets (most of it deserved), Money's absolutely brilliant about not getting in positions where he can get touched up to the body - or head for that matter.
Interesting fight for 3-4 rounds until Floyd solves Shane and shuts him out with annoying but scoring counters en route to a wide UD. -- Scott
You are so wrong, Scott. I can’t believe how many fans and members of the media are sleeping on Sugar Shane. It’s sad. It really is.
Dude, Floyd didn’t want this fight. He was forced to take it because it’s the only fight (outside of the Pacquiao showdown) that would guarantee him $15-$20 million-plus and it’s the only bout that fans and the media (including his apologists) would accept in lieu of the Pac-Man fight. Mayweather’s side wanted an immediate rematch clause in the contract. What does that tell you about his confidence going into this bout? "
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Agree with you, i was referring the other, well that was i've thinkin also that regarding Floyd.
If Shane wins or Pac wins
As Roach said it will be easier to deal with.
also we cant go wrong the expectation of the fans and media members coz they know Shane is inconsistent he could be good and sometimes goes bad recently his relying too much on his power punch his last few fight as we can see in Mayorga Shane look bad until he stop his opponent in last round, Cotto is able box him and Margarito is slouch no defense at all tailor made for him. If the fight with Shane-Floyd happens 5 or 8 years ago it will be a competitive as is.
I like Shane but a year layoff and fighting a younger defensive as Floyd could tell something.
Tho we cant go bad also in Shane this is boxing it could happen anything.
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
An immediate rematch is a pretty standard thing in boxing contracts. What it says to me is that Floyd is thinking if Mosley lands a million to one punch and sparks him then he's confident enough to immediately jump back in the ring with him.
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Doug Fischer is a big Mosely fan.
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Kirkland Laing
An immediate rematch is a pretty standard thing in boxing contracts. What it says to me is that Floyd is thinking if Mosley lands a million to one punch and sparks him then he's confident enough to immediately jump back in the ring with him.
You think Mosley's only way of winning is by landing one big punch? I see it differently. I see it as Mosley's way of winning is volume-punching because that will make it difficult for the judges to score. He is big enough that he should be able to get Floyd in range for his punches and although Floyd will undoubtedly make Mosley miss a lot, Mosley should be able to land some. And unlike in the Marquez and Hatton fights where Floyd made them miss and then hurt them, I don't see Floyd able to hurt Mosley. So as long as Mosley wins rounds by throwing more punches, he can keep the fight close and maybe steal a decision. Not that Mosley doesn't have the power to knock out Mayweather, but I can't remember the last time someone tested Mayweather's chin and don't feel comfortable saying he lacks one.
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Incidently, at an interview at the superbowl, Floyd claimed to know nothing about an immediate rematch cause.
Not saying he's not lying but again, don't jump to conclusions when the media is concerned. I also see it as a positive thing that there is a rematch clause. You always hear Floyd referred to as "chicken" but that doesn't seem like a chicken shit move to me if he loses.
Who's to say Mosley being the champion didn't request it anyway? Isn't a rematch usually the right of the champion?
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Now I really doubt this fight will ever happen. No way Manny will settle for less than 50 percent. After the mosley fight there is no way Floyd will settle for anything but random tests. I think it will go down in boxing history that both Floyd and Manny priced themselves out of the fight. :-\
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
Floyd will not make it past Mosley.
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Kirkland Laing
An immediate rematch is a pretty standard thing in boxing contracts. What it says to me is that Floyd is thinking if Mosley lands a million to one punch and sparks him then he's confident enough to immediately jump back in the ring with him.
You think Mosley's only way of winning is by landing one big punch? I see it differently. I see it as Mosley's way of winning is volume-punching because that will make it difficult for the judges to score. He is big enough that he should be able to get Floyd in range for his punches and although Floyd will undoubtedly make Mosley miss a lot, Mosley should be able to land some. And unlike in the Marquez and Hatton fights where Floyd made them miss and then hurt them, I don't see Floyd able to hurt Mosley. So as long as Mosley wins rounds by throwing more punches, he can keep the fight close and maybe steal a decision. Not that Mosley doesn't have the power to knock out Mayweather, but I can't remember the last time someone tested Mayweather's chin and don't feel comfortable saying he lacks one.
No, I think Floyd thinks that that's the only way Mosley wins. I think Floyd is superconfident of outboxing Mosley but if Mosley does come up with a once in a lifetime punch Floyd wants an immediate rematch and doesn't want him running off to fight Pacneedle.
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The Mosley fight is way bigga/beta:cool:
Money comes out sparkling
Then Manny got no choice:vd:
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Mosley accepted the blood test procedures to clear his name out of accusations
Why can't Pac do the same specially after all his silly contradicting excuses for not taking a blood test? That just make him look even more suspicious.
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Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight
Floyd is asking for a blood test that he is also willing to take to force Manny to train clean and also come clean on fight night. Both would take the test to make it fair FOR BOTH SIDES.
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That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone
Actually, that was one of the many excuses he said such as being afraid of needles (how did he get his tattoos?), he collapses after giving blood and it is unfair (Mayweather would take the very same tests, is that unfair?), can't be random tests that will totally distract him from training (Mayweather would do the same, so what? It's only a few minutes), saying they won't let Mayweather make the rules (all rules were made by Pac and his team and Mayweather agreed to all of them. Mayweather asks for only one: blood test, and hell breaks loose for Pac?), etc. etc. etc. Aaaaaall these silly contradicting excuses and one of them was that if its not part of the comission then it is a no no. Really raises an eyebrow. Is he hiding something? Mosley totally agreed with this and the fight is on.
Mayweather vs Mosley makes more sense as a competitive fight than Pac vs Clottey which seems more like a stepping stone for Pac.
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Mosley accepted the blood test procedures to clear his name out of accusations
Why can't Pac do the same specially after all his silly contradicting excuses for not taking a blood test? That just make him look even more suspicious.
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Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight
Floyd is asking for a blood test that he is also willing to take to force Manny to train clean and also come clean on fight night. Both would take the test to make it fair FOR BOTH SIDES.
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That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone
Actually, that was one of the many excuses he said such as being afraid of needles (how did he get his tattoos?), he collapses after giving blood and it is unfair (Mayweather would take the very same tests, is that unfair?), can't be random tests that will totally distract him from training (Mayweather would do the same, so what? It's only a few minutes), saying they won't let Mayweather make the rules (all rules were made by Pac and his team and Mayweather agreed to all of them. Mayweather asks for only one: blood test, and hell breaks loose for Pac?), etc. etc. etc. Aaaaaall these silly contradicting excuses and one of them was that if its not part of the comission then it is a no no. Really raises an eyebrow. Is he hiding something? Mosley totally agreed with this and the fight is on.
Mayweather vs Mosley makes more sense as a competitive fight than Pac vs Clottey which seems more like a stepping stone for Pac.
Most of boxing fans including me, sees Floyd winning either by NSCA/ Commission rules.
If Floyd is confident to win over Pac he can do it just he does in previous fight.
IMO I think Floyd is not confident to win over a midget Pac or maybe even intimidated by Pac's previous wins.
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There are still tons of posts on Pacs refusal to do olympic type drug testing. Here is an article on the 2010 Olympic drug testing and you can see how stringent it is, they don't mess around with cheaters and they have caught plenty already before the games even started, that is not posted in this article but all you have to do is google the 2010 olympic drug testing procedures to see how many have already been busted for doping, they go all out in keeping it clean and fair and all these athletes go through it. Was Pac scared of the needles and weakness from the tests or the results, all these world class athletes are doing these tests and their not making millions of dollars and they certainly do not look or act as though they were weakened by the tests and they are not saying it either.
dailygleaner.com - Drug-testing at the Olympic Games poses a huge challenge for scientists | Dr. Todd Arsenault - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada
Re: Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date
The only way old man mosely wins is if floyd gets careless and slips on a puddle of the old mans blood.
One decent performance in 5 years and people think this fossil can beat the pound for pound best fighter on the planet? piss off!
Pac can pray mosely is gonna win but it ain't gonna happen.
Floyd will beat shane easily, and will then have all the cards at the negotiating table. Pac is screwed. i doubt floyd vs pac will happen to be honest.
