Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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OumaFan
Damn, got to say as someone who regularly wishes he could retract things he said in haste on public forums I do feel a bit for Berto.
That was pretty wildly innapropriate though.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
Wow, fuck some of the people on here.
Sure Valero did some unforgivable shit in murdering his wife, but who are we to condem another human being? Do we know his whole life story, what led him down this path?
It's really easy and cowardly to lay blame as as something looking in from the outside, but who of us hasn't done something we aren't ashamed of? Who cares if its murder or not. Unless you lived a perfect life in the most difficult of circumstances you have NO SAY whatsoever, and fuck you for thinking otherwise.
I am not saying he wasn't absolutely wrong in killing his wife, but people with mental disorders do things that aren't normal, and with being both a boxer and a guy who survived bad accident(with brain injury) who knows what could have happened to his brain. Either way, like I said, we mourne the lose of both of them because it is a tragedy, and regardless of a what a person does in their life we do not deserve to lay judgement on them.
How many on here have cheated on their significant other, how many have stolen, how many have lied?
Just with Chris Benoit suicide
read the bottom of his death
Chris Benoit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
brain damage is linked to people acting this way before.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
Sadly I think boxing will get the blame rather then the people and the promoters around him not getting him the maximum help he needed cause they wanted to keep his career alive.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Dark Lord Al
Will he be regarded at the biggest puncher in boxing history ?
27 fights 27 ko's?
Great shame he threw it all away.
I think the man in your sig and a few others may have a thing or two to say about that.
He did have a great record though.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Majesty
Sadly I think boxing will get the blame rather then the people and the promoters around him not getting him the maximum help he needed cause they wanted to keep his career alive.
Where does this come from? First off, I really doubt boxing will get the blame. There's no reason for it to. Secondly, how the hell are his promoters automatically evil here and deserve blame for this heinous event?
If he had any problem, it's VERY obvious from statements from those that knew him that that problem was drugs.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
Looks like Barry Mcguigan had a point after all :rolleyes:
Who gives a fuck about Chris Benoit ???
Teath, I'm sorry but your chatting absolute faff you liberal pansy.
Mad Dogs need putting down. Fact.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
Wow, fuck some of the people on here.
Sure Valero did some unforgivable shit in murdering his wife, but who are we to condem another human being? Do we know his whole life story, what led him down this path?
It's really easy and cowardly to lay blame as as something looking in from the outside, but who of us hasn't done something we aren't ashamed of? Who cares if its murder or not. Unless you lived a perfect life in the most difficult of circumstances you have NO SAY whatsoever, and fuck you for thinking otherwise.
I am not saying he wasn't absolutely wrong in killing his wife, but people with mental disorders do things that aren't normal, and with being both a boxer and a guy who survived bad accident(with brain injury) who knows what could have happened to his brain. Either way, like I said, we mourne the lose of both of them because it is a tragedy, and regardless of a what a person does in their life we do not deserve to lay judgement on them.
How many on here have cheated on their significant other, how many have stolen, how many have lied?
Just with Chris Benoit suicide
read the bottom of his death
Chris Benoit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
brain damage is linked to people acting this way before.
maybe someone stole his bike?
That can piss you off for life :detective:
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
Wow, fuck some of the people on here.
Sure Valero did some unforgivable shit in murdering his wife, but who are we to condem another human being? Do we know his whole life story, what led him down this path?
It's really easy and cowardly to lay blame as as something looking in from the outside, but who of us hasn't done something we aren't ashamed of? Who cares if its murder or not. Unless you lived a perfect life in the most difficult of circumstances you have NO SAY whatsoever, and fuck you for thinking otherwise.
I am not saying he wasn't absolutely wrong in killing his wife, but people with mental disorders do things that aren't normal, and with being both a boxer and a guy who survived bad accident(with brain injury) who knows what could have happened to his brain. Either way, like I said, we mourne the lose of both of them because it is a tragedy, and regardless of a what a person does in their life we do not deserve to lay judgement on them.
How many on here have cheated on their significant other, how many have stolen, how many have lied?
Just with Chris Benoit suicide
read the bottom of his death
Chris Benoit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
brain damage is linked to people acting this way before.
maybe someone stole his bike?
That can piss you off for life :detective:
hahahahaha ;D
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
Wow,
fuck some of the people on here.
Sure Valero did some unforgivable shit in murdering his wife, but who are we to condem another human being? Do we know his whole life story, what led him down this path?
It's really easy and cowardly to lay blame as as something looking in from the outside, but who of us hasn't done something we aren't ashamed of? Who cares if its murder or not. Unless you lived a perfect life in the most difficult of circumstances you have NO SAY whatsoever, and fuck you for thinking otherwise.
I am not saying he wasn't absolutely wrong in killing his wife, but people with mental disorders do things that aren't normal, and with being both a boxer and a guy who survived bad accident(with brain injury) who knows what could have happened to his brain. Either way, like I said, we mourne the lose of both of them because it is a tragedy, and regardless of a what a person does in their life we do not deserve to lay judgement on them.
How many on here have cheated on their significant other, how many have stolen, how many have lied?
Just with Chris Benoit suicide
read the bottom of his death
Chris Benoit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
brain damage is linked to people acting this way before.
Fuck you and your moral high ground, Taeth. It's probably easier to see everything on that horse, though.;D
I lay judgement on whoever I want... Like I've thought you were a dick for years... I'm sure it's mutual, though. ;D
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Jimboogie
Looks like Barry Mcguigan had a point after all :rolleyes:
Who gives a fuck about Chris Benoit ???
Teath, I'm sorry but your chatting absolute faff you liberal pansy.
Mad Dogs need putting down. Fact.
And you are a hypocrite asshole who thinks his shit doesn't stink.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
LOL at the idea that if you've lied, stolen, or even cheated on your girlfriend you can't make some sort of judgment on somebody that beat his mom, beat his wife, allegedly forced her to take drugs, and then murdered her. My God.
The whole thing's just sad. Maybe his head injuries played a part. Maybe he was a monster for completely different reasons. I don't know.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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OumaFan
LOL at the idea that if you've lied, stolen, or even cheated on your girlfriend you can't make some sort of judgment on somebody that beat his mom, beat his wife, allegedly forced her to take drugs, and then murdered her. My God.
The whole thing's just sad. Maybe his head injuries played a part. Maybe he was a monster for completely different reasons. I don't know.
Nope, you're a dirt neck for having an oppinion. This is the world Taeth lives in.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
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Originally Posted by
Jimboogie
Looks like Barry Mcguigan had a point after all :rolleyes:
Who gives a fuck about Chris Benoit ???
Teath, I'm sorry but your chatting absolute faff you liberal pansy.
Mad Dogs need putting down. Fact.
And you are a hypocrite asshole who thinks his shit doesn't stink.
Actually that's wrong.
I'm the 1st to admit/backtrack if I am wrong. I am actually a very conscientious individual.
Plus I eat a lot of Garlic ;)
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
LOL at the idea that if you've lied, stolen, or even cheated on your girlfriend you can't make some sort of judgment on somebody that beat his mom, beat his wife, allegedly forced her to take drugs, and then murdered her. My God.
The whole thing's just sad. Maybe his head injuries played a part. Maybe he was a monster for completely different reasons. I don't know.
Nope, you're a dirt neck for having an oppinion. This is the world Taeth lives in.
WOw, way to be a moron. THere is a difference between having an opinion and being and ignorant insensitive prick which you are being. Especially apparently completely beyond your realm of comprehension?
You say I am on the high horse, yet you are the one thinking that your good enough to judge Valero?
I am not trying to say lying, stealing, adultery= abuse+murder, but if he was mentally ill or addicted to drugs then he probably didn't even really know what he was doing. I'm not saying that he wasn't at fault, but there are a lot of things that lead to a tragic end like this and its easy for you to judge somebody based on the last few things they do out of desperation as opposed to looking at the whole picture which many of you are doing.
Re: Valero found hanged in his cell
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
LOL at the idea that if you've lied, stolen, or even cheated on your girlfriend you can't make some sort of judgment on somebody that beat his mom, beat his wife, allegedly forced her to take drugs, and then murdered her. My God.
The whole thing's just sad. Maybe his head injuries played a part. Maybe he was a monster for completely different reasons. I don't know.
Nope, you're a dirt neck for having an oppinion. This is the world Taeth lives in.
WOw, way to be a moron. THere is a difference between having an opinion and being and ignorant insensitive prick which you are being. Especially apparently completely beyond your realm of comprehension?
You say I am on the high horse, yet you are the one thinking that your good enough to judge Valero?
I am not trying to say lying, stealing, adultery= abuse+murder, but if he was mentally ill or addicted to drugs then he probably didn't even really know what he was doing. I'm not saying that he wasn't at fault, but there are a lot of things that lead to a tragic end like this and its easy for you to judge somebody based on the last few things they do out of desperation as opposed to looking at the whole picture which many of you are doing.
Fact ;D