Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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p4pking
I should also hope you realize that Bin Laden had been disowned by his own family in 1994 after opposing US forces in Saudi Arabia, as well as carrying out violent Jihads in Egypt and Sudan. He lost his Saudi citizenship and his allowance, no longer sharing any of his families business affiliations whatsoever. But of course that's doesn't make your idea sound as cool either.
Im not understanding your point. I know the Bin Ladens didnt like him which is precisely why they allowed the US to cover up his death. The US and the Bin Ladens are on the same side. They are all in business together.
Also as to which President gets in, why on earth does that matter? Those who are really in control are in control are above the Presidency, that is merely the figurehead puppet. It had nothing to do with securing elections but on carrying out their agenda in the Middle East which would have happened regardless of who was in the White House.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
I think thats been a huge problem in some of this entire ordeal. We've approached terrorism as if we are dealing with an auto theft ring or a band of hooligans, a police action, as opposed to a in fact war front. As tragic and bloody on all fronts as it is we'll never fully know details of this operation nor should we. Be it a battle front or a common raid...they were fired on and returned fire. If you are an international terrorist who was the mastermind of the death of 3 k plus men women and children...of many nationalities....your pity party dried up long ago and your sympathy hall pass should be revoked. The took fire...he was cornered, he made a move and he got a double tap. Operator doesn't have time to phone the U.N or call his council for him and the one who hesitates is the one who goes home in a bag. These were soldiers, not johnny on the beat police. I have'real' innocents being roughed up by police and some dying by a local governments hand that are due concern. But this one, this waste of oxygen who has proven to be a weapon by word and control equally and more so than by actual firearm got what he had coming and it was long overdue. I hope the sharks don't choke on his fooking skull is all I ask.
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LOL, there's no way to poke a hole in Bilbo's theories because he just adds new theories to cover up the gap.
I wonder who's on the grand council that controls America, and is it possible that's where Trainer Monkey's been for the last few years?
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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Spicoli
I think thats been a huge problem in some of this entire ordeal. We've approached terrorism as if we are dealing with an auto theft ring or a band of hooligans, a police action, as opposed to a in fact war front. As tragic and bloody on all fronts as it is we'll never fully know details of this operation nor should we. Be it a battle front or a common raid...they were fired on and returned fire. If you are an international terrorist who was the mastermind of the death of 3 k plus men women and children...of many nationalities....your pity party dried up long ago and your sympathy hall pass should be revoked. The took fire...he was cornered, he made a move and he got a double tap. Operator doesn't have time to phone the U.N or call his council for him and the one who hesitates is the one who goes home in a bag. These were soldiers, not johnny on the beat police. I have'real' innocents being roughed up by police and some dying by a local governments hand that are due concern. But this one, this waste of oxygen who has proven to be a weapon by word and control equally and more so than by actual firearm got what he had coming and it was long overdue. I hope the sharks don't choke on his fooking skull is all I ask.
The inability of some people today to do what Western Civilization did 1800 years ago, to recognize that such a distinction existed between War and crime that entirely different legal and enforcement approaches are required simply baffles me. In today's schools does no one read Augustine or Aquinas or Stanislaw or Cicero or Locke or Mill or more recently Tillich or Niebuhr?
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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katfight
Oh and by the way they were unarmed... The American government made a mistake when they said they had a gun fight
Fully, a def mistake to talk before a complete debriefing by the actual operators on ground. There is a clear distinction here....politicos who talk for the cameras, both administrations who play one upsmanship. Frankley the U.S Governement and mistakes have been many in history. But the actual boots on the ground who have to act on instinct and training while on a mission as situation changes second to second. You dont hold a AK...is he wearing a vest, is he holding a detonator, on and on it goes. I believe they did what they felt they had to do on seconds notice to bring him down and stay alive.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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OumaFan
LOL, there's no way to poke a hole in Bilbo's theories because he just adds new theories to cover up the gap.
I wonder who's on the grand council that controls America, and is it possible that's where Trainer Monkey's been for the last few years?
What holes are in my theory other than your idea that it is ridiculous?
What actual evidence has there been that Bin Laden has been alive since 2002?
What evidence have you seen that shows he has been assassinated?
You ridicule it soley because you think the government wouldnt lie to you. If you have any evidence beyond that faith then please reveal it to me.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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Bilbo
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OumaFan
LOL, there's no way to poke a hole in Bilbo's theories because he just adds new theories to cover up the gap.
I wonder who's on the grand council that controls America, and is it possible that's where Trainer Monkey's been for the last few years?
What holes are in my theory other than your idea that it is ridiculous?
What actual evidence has there been that Bin Laden has been alive since 2002?
What evidence have you seen that shows he has been assassinated?
You ridicule it soley because you think the government wouldnt lie to you. If you have any evidence beyond that faith then please reveal it to me.
;D
I don't take anything on face value but the idea that we waited 8 years to reveal his death is just pure brilliance ;D
A much better conspiracy theory would that he's not actually dead but in Area 51 being pumped full of some sort of truth serum. Or that he's been dead for a year or so but Obama was waiting for the right moment and went for the double whammy this week after he made a fool of the Donald.
FWIW I still think you're just fucking with everyone.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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OumaFan
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Bilbo
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OumaFan
LOL, there's no way to poke a hole in Bilbo's theories because he just adds new theories to cover up the gap.
I wonder who's on the grand council that controls America, and is it possible that's where Trainer Monkey's been for the last few years?
What holes are in my theory other than your idea that it is ridiculous?
What actual evidence has there been that Bin Laden has been alive since 2002?
What evidence have you seen that shows he has been assassinated?
You ridicule it soley because you think the government wouldnt lie to you. If you have any evidence beyond that faith then please reveal it to me.
;D
I don't take anything on face value but the idea that we waited 8 years to reveal his death is just pure brilliance ;D
A much better conspiracy theory would that he's not actually dead but in Area 51 being pumped full of some sort of truth serum. Or that he's been dead for a year or so but Obama was waiting for the right moment and went for the double whammy this week after he made a fool of the Donald.
FWIW I still think you're just fucking with everyone.
I hope this site is still here in 20 years because by then you will all start to see how smart I am.
Until then I shall just content myself in the knowledge that I know better than you all.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
Ouma, u know Bush clearly covered up the death. I mean, how else could he have written his memoirs with his biggest regret being not being able to capture bin Laden. People aren't just going to turn away that sort of revenue.
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
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Youngblood
Ouma, u know Bush clearly covered up the death. I mean, how else could he have written his memoirs with his biggest regret being not being able to capture bin Laden. People aren't just going to turn away that sort of revenue.
You believe Bush capable of writing his own memoirs?
Re: Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?
Word is Bush wanted to let it out during his re-election campaign to seal the victory but the big three (Warren Buffett, Trainer Monkey, and Han Solo) told him to shut the fuck up, we've got grand strategy to worry about.
