The whole of london is kicking off!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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This guy looks like he had a field day.

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Thats one stupid person who is off to jail soon.

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He is more than likely under age and will get a slap on the wrist :mad:

Looks like he could use that big tub of protein he's nicked - the weedy little fucker!

"Ahh me mates must ave superimposed me ead onto a fieves body!! :eek:"

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Lyle the thing you must grasp is that it wasn't about rage the moment proceedings left Tottenham police station.

From that point on it was all childish hype and opportunitism.
And for the most part, the police were just sitting on thier hands???

A thing like this is really catching... Its like parents letting thier kids go nuts in the bedroom. Its only a matter of time before it's the landing then the bathroom then your room then the kitchen and before you know it your whole house is overrun with disobedient teenagers!

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Originally Posted by miles

Interesting article GB and I agree with most of the points made.

This is something that has been building for decades and I felt it somewhat whilst living on council estates as a child and living in places such as Salford and working in the dodgy parts of Manchester. Everyone has had to walk past a group of manevolent looking scallies on their bikes and seemingly with nothing to do but march in packs looking for trouble and a place to cast their simmering negativity. I have been away nigh on a decade and I imagine it has been escalating more and more. I have always been highly critical of the 'chav' underbelly within the UK, but to see it explode like this is just appalling. It is a society that really has broken down and I struggle to see the UK being reigned back in short of bringing in seriously draconian measures. It's been going on too long and there are just too many of these horrid creatures out there now. And to think foreigners still buy into the notion of the tea drinking gentleman. For years I have been saying it is nonsense, maybe now people will start to believe me.

And I was reading an article today about conditions in Britain's biggest prison being 'demeaning'. Wtf? Prison SHOULD be demeaning. I honestly believe more of them should be built and prisons should be prisons. No TV, no sports, bread and water for your meals and all kinds of other things that reduce the burder on the taxpayer. It is beyond me why a criminal needs tens of thousands of pounds a year spent on them whilst behind bars. If you want austerity, then strip the prisoners of their easy lives. Prison should be punishment. All these yobs could do with a stretch inside.

Life In Britain's Biggest Jail 'Demeaning' - Yahoo!

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I am usually left of the political spectrum on many issues but 1 of them is not being soft on criminals.
Speaking of criminals. I remember an article a few weeks back that a group of burglars had entered a man's home and 1 of them got into a violent confrontation with him and ended dead with a 1 stab wound. You know what happened? The man and his son was charged for murder. And no I'm not kidding. Suspected burglar stabbed to death - Crime, UK - The Independent

And speaking of jails and prisons, remember some old thread about it and Skel one of our best members describe it as being a sort of paradise? Playstations and Xboxes along with cell phones, laptops with internet connection with access to ipods and being able to play billiards and all that good stuff. Sheesh, no wonder criminals don't fear the law in the UK.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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Originally Posted by miles

Interesting article GB and I agree with most of the points made.

This is something that has been building for decades and I felt it somewhat whilst living on council estates as a child and living in places such as Salford and working in the dodgy parts of Manchester. Everyone has had to walk past a group of manevolent looking scallies on their bikes and seemingly with nothing to do but march in packs looking for trouble and a place to cast their simmering negativity. I have been away nigh on a decade and I imagine it has been escalating more and more. I have always been highly critical of the 'chav' underbelly within the UK, but to see it explode like this is just appalling. It is a society that really has broken down and I struggle to see the UK being reigned back in short of bringing in seriously draconian measures. It's been going on too long and there are just too many of these horrid creatures out there now. And to think foreigners still buy into the notion of the tea drinking gentleman. For years I have been saying it is nonsense, maybe now people will start to believe me.

And I was reading an article today about conditions in Britain's biggest prison being 'demeaning'. Wtf? Prison SHOULD be demeaning. I honestly believe more of them should be built and prisons should be prisons. No TV, no sports, bread and water for your meals and all kinds of other things that reduce the burder on the taxpayer. It is beyond me why a criminal needs tens of thousands of pounds a year spent on them whilst behind bars. If you want austerity, then strip the prisoners of their easy lives. Prison should be punishment. All these yobs could do with a stretch inside.

Life In Britain's Biggest Jail 'Demeaning' - Yahoo!

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I am usually left of the political spectrum on many issues but 1 of them is not being soft on criminals.
Speaking of criminals. I remember an article a few weeks back that a group of burglars had entered a man's home and 1 of them got into a violent confrontation with him and ended dead with a 1 stab wound. You know what happened? The man and his son was charged for murder. And no I'm not kidding. Suspected burglar stabbed to death - Crime, UK - The Independent

And speaking of jails and prisons, remember some old thread about it and Skel one of our best members describe it as being a sort of paradise? Playstations and Xboxes along with cell phones, laptops with internet connection with access to ipods and being able to play billiards and all that good stuff. Sheesh, no wonder criminals don't fear the law in the UK.

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Totally, it seems to be a bit of a joke. We need prisons like the one that Oscar Wilde wrote "The Ballad of Reading gaol" in. Either man you up or melt you down. Though clearly I don't believe Oscar Wilde should have been in jail, but these little bastards should be.

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Lyle the thing you must grasp is that it wasn't about rage the moment proceedings left Tottenham police station.

From that point on it was all childish hype and opportunitism.
And for the most part, the police were just sitting on thier hands???

A thing like this is really catching... Its like parents letting thier kids go nuts in the bedroom. Its only a matter of time before it's the landing then the bathroom then your room then the kitchen and before you know it your whole house is overrun with disobedient teenagers!

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I did see videos of the police in many parts of the places that are being looted were seriously outnumbered. As in maybe 10 of them against a crowd of 50 or 60 and they had to back off for fear of their life. And you know what? I can't blame them. They were just undermanned and overpowered in many spots. These officers have families to go home to, it would be suicide to take on a large crowd like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4pcb...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNh-fTv1Gm8&feature=player_embedded

I hope they find these monsters.

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Originally Posted by Andre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNh-fTv1Gm8&feature=player_embedded

I hope they find these monsters.

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Evil fuckers need throwing on the fires they've started.

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Originally Posted by miles

What a joke of a country. Full of hoodlums and street urchins and nobody can do anything about them. This is what happens when the family unit decays, self responsibility is taken away and there is no sense of accountability. Bring back corporal punishment and give the police the task of chasing criminals rather than motorists.

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These people should have zero reflection on are country. They are sub humans no matter where they are put on this earth they would be criminal twats. Are country is being represented by the police, fire service, ambulance and all the people who are supporting them. The people cleaning up the shops and helping fight against these mindless thugs are showing what England is. These people aren't English there pieces of shit.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

So did that one shooting actually fuel all this rage?

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Fuck no... nobody in Manchester gives a fuck about a gang leader in London (or all the places a Northerner couldn't give a fuck about, London is number one.) and you don't go straight for the 48 inch HD TVs, Bluray players, PS3s, XBOXs, Designer Sportswear etc if you're angry at the establishment.

The shooting may have been the catalyst that set all of this off, but it quickly degraded in to monkey see monkey do and opportunism from a bunch of ignorant, egotistical charvers who have an over inflated sense of entitlement and the exact opposite in the IQ department.

If our society wasn't fucked and so full of idiotic cunts who all think they should live like a premiership footballer without lifting a finger for it and who think that they are something special thanks to the shit media feeds them (see 'Geordie shore' etc) then this wouldn't be going on... regardless of the police dropping the ball and shooting some scumbag.

Only in the UK would people use £400 smart phones whilst wearing £100 tracksuits to organise riots because they 'live in poverty'... and only in the UK would people smash up businesses and set the economy back months or years because they can't get a job.

Drop them in the middle east for 6 months and see what they think.

The economy is hanging on by a thread... lets destroy small businesses and homes! Fucking clowns.

They also think that they're getting at the police... what?! by giving them 1000s in overtime and by increasing their job security by showing that deep budget cuts to the police force would be a bad idea? Idiots... they can lie to themselves and try to justify what they're doing all they want... but they're fooling nobody... and that includes themselves.

Bottom line is that these riots aren't a sudden reaction to anything... just a symptom of the fucked up attitude and ignorance that has infected most of this shitty generation.

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Originally Posted by miles

What a joke of a country. Full of hoodlums and street urchins and nobody can do anything about them. This is what happens when the family unit decays, self responsibility is taken away and there is no sense of accountability. Bring back corporal punishment and give the police the task of chasing criminals rather than motorists.

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These people should have zero reflection on are country. They are sub humans no matter where they are put on this earth they would be criminal twats. Are country is being represented by the police, fire service, ambulance and all the people who are supporting them. The people cleaning up the shops and helping fight against these mindless thugs are showing what England is. These people aren't English there pieces of shit.

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I agree that they are pieces of shit, but the UK seems to have a lot of them. I have never seen gangs of kids hanging out on street corners causing a menace in 8 years of living overseas and yet its the first thing I see when I come home. It is an endemic UK problem and these people are English and there are a lot of them. It has been building generation after generation and seems to have spread like wildfire whilst under Labour rule.

I imagine it is going to hurt the UK in many ways. I was talking to a Korea friend who was going to visit this fall, but has totally cancelled her trip fearing what she has been seeing in the news. The UK relies a lot on tourism, if this spreads the UK is fucked more than it can ever imagine. The Olympics are looking like a serious worry to me. This won't continue like this forever, but I can see it flaring up sporadically. The UK is looking like a shell of a country and is overrun by out of control vermin. And that is just the government. :-\

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

So did that one shooting actually fuel all this rage?

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Fuck no... nobody in Manchester gives a fuck about a gang leader in London (or all the places a Northerner couldn't give a fuck about, London is number one.) and you don't go straight for the 48 inch HD TVs, Bluray players, PS3s, XBOXs, Designer Sportswear etc if you're angry at the establishment.

The shooting may have been the catalyst that set all of this off, but it quickly degraded in to monkey see monkey do and opportunism from a bunch of ignorant, egotistical charvers who have an over inflated sense of entitlement and the exact opposite in the IQ department.

If our society wasn't fucked and so full of idiotic cunts who all think they should live like a premiership footballer without lifting a finger for it and who think that they are something special thanks to the shit media feeds them (see 'Geordie shore' etc) then this wouldn't be going on... regardless of the police dropping the ball and shooting some scumbag.

Only in the UK would people use £400 smart phones whilst wearing £100 tracksuits to organise riots because they 'live in poverty'... and only in the UK would people smash up businesses and set the economy back months or years because they can't get a job.

Drop them in the middle east for 6 months and see what they think.

The economy is hanging on by a thread... lets destroy small businesses and homes! Fucking clowns.

They also think that they're getting at the police... what?! by giving them 1000s in overtime and by increasing their job security by showing that deep budget cuts to the police force would be a bad idea? Idiots... they can lie to themselves and try to justify what they're doing all they want... but they're fooling nobody... and that includes themselves.

Bottom line is that these riots aren't a sudden reaction to anything... just a symptom of the fucked up attitude and ignorance that has infected most of this shitty generation.

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Excellent post.

I saw one video with a woman looting suggesting that she was "getting her taxes back". I bet she has never paid any bloody taxes! And getting some taxes back by looting from a private corporation? Some logic.

Go and find where the bankers live and cause anarachy, but destroying your own neighborhoods? Cretins!

Have these riots changed your views on gun ownership?

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Originally Posted by Andre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNh-fTv1Gm8&feature=player_embedded

I hope they find these monsters.

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Evil fuckers need throwing on the fires they've started.

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After being tortured.