Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

I don't understand. How can Kelly Ayotte a Republican Senator be trusted to have an unbiased view of the situation ? Is this a review, an enquiry or a desperate attempt to throw mud at someone that has already been elected because their guy didn't win ?

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't understand. How can Kelly Ayotte a Republican Senator be trusted to have an unbiased view of the situation ? Is this a review, an enquiry or a desperate attempt to throw mud at someone that has already been elected because their guy didn't win ?

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Soooooo you don't think Republicans should be able to ask questions relevant to the Benghazi attacks because you assume they might be biased?

They are holding bipartisan hearings, the Democrats are refusing to cooperate and/or participate in except for a very few members who are constantly trying to cover the asses of Obama & Hillary. If the media actually did its fucking job these hearings would have more support, but nah don't take their eyes off the prize that is the Jodi Arias trail :vd:

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't understand. How can Kelly Ayotte a Republican Senator be trusted to have an unbiased view of the situation ? Is this a review, an enquiry or a desperate attempt to throw mud at someone that has already been elected because their guy didn't win ?

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Soooooo you don't think Republicans should be able to ask questions relevant to the Benghazi attacks because you assume they might be biased?

They are holding bipartisan hearings, the Democrats are refusing to cooperate and/or participate in except for a very few members who are constantly trying to cover the asses of Obama & Hillary. If the media actually did its fucking job these hearings would have more support, but nah don't take their eyes off the prize that is the Jodi Arias trail :vd:

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No I don't think Politicians should be involved in a political enquiry from either party. It should be open, transparent and run by independent experts.

Yeah....well good luck with that

In Britain such an idea would not be seen as so preposterous. Ambassadors, Diplomats,high ranking Civil Servants, Military Historians and possibly one cross bencher would be used to ensure the truth was arrived at. An enquiry chaired by Politicians is hardly going to be objective.

The administration is lying their ass off. It's looking as if Clinton (Hillary) either dropped the ball intentionally, or she just was out of her league and was consumed with other matters- like watching Billy-boy and his philandering.
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p.s.
Her accepting an award from Henry Kissinger two weeks after she left office didn't bode well for her either.
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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't understand. How can Kelly Ayotte a Republican Senator be trusted to have an unbiased view of the situation ? Is this a review, an enquiry or a desperate attempt to throw mud at someone that has already been elected because their guy didn't win ?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

In Britain such an idea would not be seen as so preposterous. Ambassadors, Diplomats,high ranking Civil Servants, Military Historians and possibly one cross bencher would be used to ensure the truth was arrived at. An enquiry chaired by Politicians is hardly going to be objective.

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This is like golf....you play the course you're on. The Democrats look like the God damned Keystone Cops right about now, they are back peddling and tripping over one another and also they just look like they don't want to bother with this whole Benghazi issue because they are too elite to worry about such messes, it's only going to keep them from focusing on their REAL goals.....God knows what those are.

Not to beat a dead horse, BUT.......

Obama’s claim he called Benghazi an ‘act of terrorism’ - The Washington Post


....Obama did lie about calling the Benghazi attacks "terrorist acts", its a moot point to call him out on it now when the damage has been done.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

What do you mean Obama was m issing for eight hours? From what? Who gave two orders to whom to stand down? Provide facts and evidence Lyle.

And there was a fight between the State Department and the CIA over what they were going to say about the incident. There were twelve revisions to the eventual statement. I'm surprised it wasn't 112. That's just normal for two departments in any big company or small government, never mind the US government. So so far there's evidence of an argument between two government depatments over how the response statement should be worded. And that's the entire scandal.

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I mean exactly what I said, Obama's whereabouts on the night of the Benghazi attacks (plural) are unknown/not specified.....

THE PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=weq7hY0OhKs#!

Sorry, you have to watch a video :eek:




Do you get tired of being wrong & losing these arguments? How will you defend Obama for the IRS scandal??? Sicking the IRS on your enemies is very "Nixonian", things don't look good for YOUR BOY now do they?

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Right, I actually watched that video. The Defenxce Secretary said that Obama left handling the situation up to him and his generals. It doesn't say anything about him being missing.

And you also claimed that Obama gave two orders for troops to stand down but you haven't provided any evidence to back that up.

Also, too. Your video is misleading. I just googled Panetta benghazi testimony transcript and this was the fourth hit:

Conservative Media Selectively Crop Panetta's Congressional Testimony To Attack Obama On Benghazi | Blog | Media Matters for America

Here's the next thing out of Panetta's mouth after the video cuts off :

DEMPSEY: I would, if I could just, to correct one thing. I wouldn't say there was no follow-up from the White House. There was no follow-up, to my knowledge, with the president. But his staff was engaged with the national military command center pretty constantly through the period, which is the way it would normally work.


Ans that's why I don't like videos, because they're misleading. If you're going to reply on videos you're going to be made to look foolish time and time again, QED.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't understand. How can Kelly Ayotte a Republican Senator be trusted to have an unbiased view of the situation ? Is this a review, an enquiry or a desperate attempt to throw mud at someone that has already been elected because their guy didn't win ?

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It's a desperate attempt to smear the next President and try and damage her chances of election. Unfortunately for the Republicans the polls show Benghazi is only relevant to people who weren't going to vote for her anyway.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Right, I actually watched that video. The Defenxce Secretary said that Obama left handling the situation up to him and his generals. It doesn't say anything about him being missing.

And you also claimed that Obama gave two orders for troops to stand down but you haven't provided any evidence to back that up.

Also, too. Your video is misleading. I just googled Panetta benghazi testimony transcript and this was the fourth hit:

Conservative Media Selectively Crop Panetta's Congressional Testimony To Attack Obama On Benghazi | Blog | Media Matters for America

Here's the next thing out of Panetta's mouth after the video cuts off :

DEMPSEY: I would, if I could just, to correct one thing. I wouldn't say there was no follow-up from the White House. There was no follow-up, to my knowledge, with the president. But his staff was engaged with the national military command center pretty constantly through the period, which is the way it would normally work.


Ans that's why I don't like videos, because they're misleading. If you're going to reply on videos you're going to be made to look foolish time and time again, QED.

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Obama is the Commander-in-Chief he and he alone can give the stand down order. If he deferred to a general, then that general should be held accountable...that fair enough for you?

Obama LEFT...Americans are under attack and Obama "left"......what a true born leader he is. So where did he go, what did he do? We're to believe he watched Bin Laden get shot in real time but he didn't see this attack in real time when drones were relaying a live feed back to the War Room?

You go ahead princess, defend the boy king :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Right, I actually watched that video. The Defenxce Secretary said that Obama left handling the situation up to him and his generals. It doesn't say anything about him being missing.

And you also claimed that Obama gave two orders for troops to stand down but you haven't provided any evidence to back that up.

Also, too. Your video is misleading. I just googled Panetta benghazi testimony transcript and this was the fourth hit:

Conservative Media Selectively Crop Panetta's Congressional Testimony To Attack Obama On Benghazi | Blog | Media Matters for America

Here's the next thing out of Panetta's mouth after the video cuts off :

DEMPSEY: I would, if I could just, to correct one thing. I wouldn't say there was no follow-up from the White House. There was no follow-up, to my knowledge, with the president. But his staff was engaged with the national military command center pretty constantly through the period, which is the way it would normally work.


Ans that's why I don't like videos, because they're misleading. If you're going to reply on videos you're going to be made to look foolish time and time again, QED.

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Obama is the Commander-in-Chief he and he alone can give the stand down order. If he deferred to a general, then that general should be held accountable...that fair enough for you?

Obama LEFT...Americans are under attack and Obama "left"......what a true born leader he is. So where did he go, what did he do? We're to believe he watched Bin Laden get shot in real time but he didn't see this attack in real time when drones were relaying a live feed back to the War Room?

You go ahead princess, defend the boy king :rolleyes:

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You originally said Obama gave two orders to stand down. Now you're saying he may have left this to a general, which is what he did do.


You also keep saying that he went missing or he "left" somewhere. Where is the evidence for this? The guy in the video said he was talking to the White House, so presumably the Kenyan was in the White House. Do you have any actual evidence that shows where he went missing from? This is the third time I asked you.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

You originally said Obama gave two orders to stand down. Now you're saying he may have left this to a general, which is what he did do.


You also keep saying that he went missing or he "left" somewhere. Where is the evidence for this? The guy in the video said he was talking to the White House, so presumably the Kenyan was in the White House. Do you have any actual evidence that shows where he went missing from? This is the third time I asked you.

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That's the question I'm asking you dope! "2 stand down orders were given" #1 The only person that can give those orders is Barack Obama and #2 Reports are that Obama left and went to sleep as his friend Amb. Chris Stevens was brutally murdered. So either OBAMA gave the orders which is bad OR Obama washed his hands of the situation completely.



Remember this picture of when Bin Laden was killed?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._bin_Laden.jpg

I would like that kind of evidence that Obama was actually involved in his job because this says other than a 30 minute meeting with Panetta & Gen. Dempsey he was unaccounted for

Benghazi Attack: Obama Was AWOL During the Event

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

You originally said Obama gave two orders to stand down. Now you're saying he may have left this to a general, which is what he did do.


You also keep saying that he went missing or he "left" somewhere. Where is the evidence for this? The guy in the video said he was talking to the White House, so presumably the Kenyan was in the White House. Do you have any actual evidence that shows where he went missing from? This is the third time I asked you.

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That's the question I'm asking you dope! "2 stand down orders were given" #1 The only person that can give those orders is Barack Obama and #2 Reports are that Obama left and went to sleep as his friend Amb. Chris Stevens was brutally murdered. So either OBAMA gave the orders which is bad OR Obama washed his hands of the situation completely.



Remember this picture of when Bin Laden was killed?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._bin_Laden.jpg

I would like that kind of evidence that Obama was actually involved in his job because this says other than a 30 minute meeting with Panetta & Gen. Dempsey he was unaccounted for

Benghazi Attack: Obama Was AWOL During the Event

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Provide actual evidence. Just ranting away doesn't prove anything. You can either provide proof or you can't. Notice even the GOP aren't making these claims. Nobody in elected office is making these claims, only a bunch of nutters on the internet. If there's evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down why isn't it being investigated instead of an investigation of a fucking talking points memo?