Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Beanflicker
Banned NOTHING you morons.
IV use is not banned by the NSAC.
IV use IS banned by USADA, but they gave him a T.U.E.
LOL@ all the haters getting salty because Floyd injected some water and vitamins into his system.
But then go praise Pac who juiced himself up to the gills and became superman, and suddenly when he got off the juice he didn't have power anymore. LOL funny how that works...
Floyd is damn near 40 with almost 20 years of pro boxing. So what if he uses an IV to rehydrate himself?
What is a TUE?
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Master
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Beanflicker
Banned NOTHING you morons.
IV use is not banned by the NSAC.
IV use IS banned by USADA, but they gave him a T.U.E.
LOL@ all the haters getting salty because Floyd injected some water and vitamins into his system.
But then go praise Pac who juiced himself up to the gills and became superman, and suddenly when he got off the juice he didn't have power anymore. LOL funny how that works...
Floyd is damn near 40 with almost 20 years of pro boxing. So what if he uses an IV to rehydrate himself?
What is a TUE?
Therapeutic Use Exemption :)
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Kirkland Laing
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
Yes, innocent of all wrongdoing. It was all down to his trainer. His trainer let Margarito take the risk of being banned for life, having his name and reputation trashed and potentially losing every penny he had and a prison sentence on top without telling him about what he was doing.
I hope that cunt has blown all his money and has to fight for years to come and ends up with proper brain damage.
Why wasn't he banned for life, arrested or sent to prison?
Because it was discovered before the fight. If he'd put Mosley in a coma and his wraps had been examined after the fight he'd be looking at paying unlimited damages in civil actions and being locked up.
He never put anyone in a coma. His hands being wrapped was witnessed by numerous top trainers and numerous commissions over the years.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
Banned NOTHING you morons.
IV use is not banned by the NSAC.
IV use IS banned by USADA, but they gave him a T.U.E.
LOL@ all the haters getting salty because Floyd injected some water and vitamins into his system.
But then go praise Pac who juiced himself up to the gills and became superman, and suddenly when he got off the juice he didn't have power anymore. LOL funny how that works...
Floyd is damn near 40 with almost 20 years of pro boxing. So what if he uses an IV to rehydrate himself?
What is a TUE?
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the bit before SDAY ?
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Everyone on boxingscene knows what a T.U.E is, we got nothing but casual fans here apparently haha
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Beanflicker
Everyone on boxingscene knows what a T.U.E is, we got nothing but casual fans here apparently haha
Well considering you think this site is dead or dying , that Saddo is a deadbeat, and now that there are nothing but casual fans here, you seem pretty determined to waste your time in posting here.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
Yes, innocent of all wrongdoing. It was all down to his trainer. His trainer let Margarito take the risk of being banned for life, having his name and reputation trashed and potentially losing every penny he had and a prison sentence on top without telling him about what he was doing.
I hope that cunt has blown all his money and has to fight for years to come and ends up with proper brain damage.
Why wasn't he banned for life, arrested or sent to prison?
Because it was discovered before the fight. If he'd put Mosley in a coma and his wraps had been examined after the fight he'd be looking at paying unlimited damages in civil actions and being locked up.
He never put anyone in a coma. His hands being wrapped was witnessed by numerous top trainers and numerous commissions over the years.
And that's all they did. Witness it. Eventually one of the witnesses decided to check the pads that were being used in the wraps and it turned out they were let's be charitable and say illegal.
You can't prove beyond doubt that Margarito didn't know what his trainer was doing. I can't prove beyond doubt that he did. So you've got to go to the balance of probabilities. You're the trainer (Capetillo?) and you come up with this great idea to give your guy plaster casts on his knuckles in fights. Your idea, if it went badly wrong, would expose your guy to becoming one of the most infamous cunts in boxing history and expose him to potentially losing every penny he ever earned and a prison sentence, his career over, not to mention potentially killing or maiming somebody and let's pretend Margarito or his trainer would give a shit about that. Come on man, considering all that how likely is it that he did it for Margarito without telling him?
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
Killing. Maiming. Bricks. Fined. Banned for life. Lawsuit. Prison.
None of this happened. He didn't even have his boxing record squashed. This wasn't anything like the Resto case. Did Margarito know his trainer attempted to use a used gauze? Maybe. Seems like there are plenty in the game that think it was blown out of proportion. And plenty of top trainers that stick up for him.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
To me, it's not as much how bad Floyd looks after getting the IV, it is how bad USADA looks for willingly breaking the rules for Floyd. They purport to abide by the WADA Code and yet they don't comply with the WADA Code in the biggest fight of the year. If they are willing to bend rules in that instance, one has to think they do so all the time.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Spicoli
Its not about the Manny fight at all but that USADA is manipulated and bends to the highest bidder. I had no idea that testing only began at the announcement of a fight being made, rather than as it proclaimed..year round and unannounced. Seems like a system set up to be gamed indeed.
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El Kabong
I think the story should be more about USADA and less about Floyd. If USADA is playing favorites then why even do testing?
Lyle and Spicoli are correct. One thing that is for sure here is that USADA bended its rules to accommodate Floyd.
The other thing that is odd is that Floyd hovers around 150 in between fights. In this particular fight, he was at 150.5 at the 30 day weigh in. Why would he need to be rehydrated through an IV if he was only losing 3.5 pounds? I understand chugging a gatorade or something, but needing a TUE for an IV for 3.5 pounds? It doesn't make much sense.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Kirkland Laing
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
Yes, innocent of all wrongdoing. It was all down to his trainer. His trainer let Margarito take the risk of being banned for life, having his name and reputation trashed and potentially losing every penny he had and a prison sentence on top without telling him about what he was doing.
I hope that cunt has blown all his money and has to fight for years to come and ends up with proper brain damage.
Why wasn't he banned for life, arrested or sent to prison?
Because it was discovered before the fight. If he'd put Mosley in a coma and his wraps had been examined after the fight he'd be looking at paying unlimited damages in civil actions and being locked up.
He never put anyone in a coma. His hands being wrapped was witnessed by numerous top trainers and numerous commissions over the years.
And that's all they did. Witness it. Eventually one of the witnesses decided to check the pads that were being used in the wraps and it turned out they were let's be charitable and say illegal.
You can't prove beyond doubt that Margarito didn't know what his trainer was doing. I can't prove beyond doubt that he did. So you've got to go to the balance of probabilities. You're the trainer (Capetillo?) and you come up with this great idea to give your guy plaster casts on his knuckles in fights. Your idea, if it went badly wrong, would expose your guy to becoming one of the most infamous cunts in boxing history and expose him to potentially losing every penny he ever earned and a prison sentence, his career over, not to mention potentially killing or maiming somebody and let's pretend Margarito or his trainer would give a shit about that. Come on man, considering all that how likely is it that he did it for Margarito without telling him?
Excellent, objective post!
But I'd also like some additional clarification from someone that has personally witnessed and/or has been personally involved in boxing handwrapping to speak on the process. Is it normal for the fighter to be clueless about how his hands are being wrapped? What are they normally doing? Are they asleep? Are they looking the other way? Can the trainer put a brick in there without the boxer knowing? Just curious.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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But I'd also like some additional clarification from someone that has personally witnessed and/or has been personally involved in boxing handwrapping to speak on the process. Is it normal for the fighter to be clueless about how his hands are being wrapped? What are they normally doing? Are they asleep? Are they looking the other way? Can the trainer put a brick in there without the boxer knowing? Just curious.
I'll help you with that. (These people are highly respected boxing trainers)
Dan Birmingham: “My guys watch me closely when I wrap. But what you’re talking about here happens pretty quickly. The pad goes on and then you put more gauze over it. So sure; it’s possible that the fighter wouldn’t know.”
Pat Burns: “Some fighters don’t pay attention when their hands are being wrapped. They’re listening to music or talking to someone or watching a television monitor. And even if they’re watching, they’re not wondering what’s in the knuckle pad. If I wanted to put a few layers of hardened gauze inside a fighter’s knuckle pads, I could and the fighter would never know.”
Freddie Roach: “If I did something like that, which I wouldn’t, I think I could do it without my fighter knowing. And if I was the fighter; Eddie Futch [who trained Roach] would never have done something like that. But if he had, I think he could have kept it secret from me.”
Don Turner: “I wouldn’t do it. I don’t cheat. But if I wanted to, unless what I was putting into the knuckle pad was very heavy, I could do it in a way that the fighter wouldn’t know. Even if the fighter is watching me wrap, he might not know because he wouldn’t see or feel the difference.”
Emanuel Steward: “My experience has been that a fighter watches very closely when his hands are being taped. But in a situation like this, it’s definitely possible that a trainer could put an insert in the knuckle pad without the fighter knowing. When I get in the dressing room before a fight, one of the first things I do is make two knuckle pads and put them on the table. I don’t put them in my bag. I leave them out on the table, and so does every other trainer I know of. So I have a hard time believing that Capetillo took the wrong knuckle pads out of his bag by mistake. But the fighter doesn’t watch me make the knuckle pads. A lot of times, the fighter isn’t even there when I make them. So the fighter wouldn’t know if I put something inside the pads unless I told him or the pads were heavy enough that he could feel a difference.”
Naazim Richardson: “I’m the wrong person to ask about this. If a guy is driving a truck and tries to run my daughter over and misses, don’t ask me what the punishment should be. But to be fair, yes, a fighter might not know.”
Hope this helps.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
I have known it before that Mayweather is a cheater. Pac deserves a chance to prove that he could easily beat Mayweather if it was not for Floyd's performance enhancing drugs. Fact.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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brucelee
I have known it before that Mayweather is a cheater. Pac deserves a chance to prove that he could easily beat Mayweather if it was not for Floyd's performance enhancing drugs. Fact.
So you are saying that a vitamins made Manny miss the air when they met in the ring?
USADA Statement on Inaccurate Pro Boxing News Reports
Floyd Mayweather and the USADA respond to illegal IV use accusations - CBSSports.com
Come on man. Accept the loss and move on already.
Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight
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Chino
A Pactard taking issue with PED use!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!
