Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
thanks, wacko, i would click ya back but i clicked you somewhere else...
i know im going against pretty much everyone by saying byrd can win. but the simple truth of it is that wlad is coming off just one impressive victory. a victory where he tasted the canvas multiple times against a very limited boxer. sam peter might pack a punch, but he's sorely lacking in skills. of course, wlad beat him and it took everything wlad had to hold it together until the end...
its been years since wlad last beat byrd. wlad beat byrd with ease. but so much has passsed since then. byrd's style has evolved. he seems more willing to dig into the trenches and tough it out. his chin is supermanesque. wlad meanwhile has shown us all his flaws. byrd now has a blueprint of how best to beat wlad. namely keep the pace up, keep wlad throwing punches in bunches. use movement to make him miss. counter accurately. if byrd can keep on his feet and somehow remain strong going into the second half of the fight then he can really take it to wlad. like i say, this is a small ring. byrd isnt going in there blind. byrd is no pocket rocket, but he can punch. he will try and exhaust wlad by an accumualtion of effort...
i wouldnt be surprised to see byrd steal this one.....im no massive byrd fan, nor am i any wlad hater (remember i was on wlad's side against peter)...i just think as a fan of boxing this is actually a pretty interesting bout (and you've gotta go with one fighter havent you? ;D)...
byrd by tko...
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
I had already posted a poll on this somewhere, But Klitschko will Ko Byrd in 8 rounds!
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
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I think Byrd will win by SD, he will keep it close for the first few rounds till Wlad wears himself out and then Byrd will outbox him down the stretch.
agreed. byrd is going to utilise the smaller ring and go to war with wlad. byrd is gonna lay it all on the line here, he's going to germany he knows he's got it all to do.
im expecting a few surprises from chris byrd in this one...he's not dont yet...
:coolclick: Good points miles.
Hadn't thought of it that way...but I still say Wlad beats Byrd...& I am more of a Byrd fan than I am a Wladdy's bwoy.
Bullshat Wacko! You are a Klithead and you know it! You and Lyle love yo Wlad. :-*
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I think Byrd will win by SD, he will keep it close for the first few rounds till Wlad wears himself out and then Byrd will outbox him down the stretch.
agreed. byrd is going to utilise the smaller ring and go to war with wlad. byrd is gonna lay it all on the line here, he's going to germany he knows he's got it all to do.
im expecting a few surprises from chris byrd in this one...he's not dont yet...
:coolclick: Good points miles.
Hadn't thought of it that way...but I still say Wlad beats Byrd...& I am more of a Byrd fan than I am a Wladdy's bwoy.
Bullshat Wacko! You are a Klithead and you know it! You and Lyle love yo Wlad. :-*
Wlad would knock out Rahman, Toney and Byrdshat. But I do agree with you on Mayorga, I hope he puts a good ole southern ass taxing on Pretty hoe.
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I think Byrd will win by SD, he will keep it close for the first few rounds till Wlad wears himself out and then Byrd will outbox him down the stretch.
agreed. byrd is going to utilise the smaller ring and go to war with wlad. byrd is gonna lay it all on the line here, he's going to germany he knows he's got it all to do.
im expecting a few surprises from chris byrd in this one...he's not dont yet...
:coolclick: Good points miles.
Hadn't thought of it that way...but I still say Wlad beats Byrd...& I am more of a Byrd fan than I am a Wladdy's bwoy.
Bullshat Wacko! You are a Klithead and you know it! You and Lyle love yo Wlad. :-*
Wlad would knock out Rahman, Toney and Byrdshat. But I do agree with you on Mayorga, I hope he puts a good ole southern a** taxing on Pretty hoe.
You & hulk can strike Mayorga's name offa boxing...he's done. Oscar will humiliate this fool. Layoff or not.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
Is eveyrone forgettign that Wladimir just beat Samuel Peter?
He's proven himself once again in the big fight enviornment. He's proven he can avoid punches in case his chin fails.
Chris Byrd has slowed both of hand and foot, and he hasn't gotten much technically better. Byrd has underrated power whn he puts something on it, but he will be too focused his defense to really set anything up. Wladimir will be throwing punches and Chris will only have time to try and blcok/alip them.
Wladimir KO7
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Is eveyrone forgettign that Wladimir just beat Samuel Peter?
He's proven himself once again in the big fight enviornment. He's proven he can avoid punches in case his chin fails.
Chris Byrd has slowed both of hand and foot, and he hasn't gotten much technically better. Byrd has underrated power whn he puts something on it, but he will be too focused his defense to really set anything up. Wladimir will be throwing punches and Chris will only have time to try and blcok/alip them.
Wladimir KO7
Peter is not the most tactical fighter out there. He comes in to KO somebody and thats it. Technically he is not that great either, so it wasnt like Wlad had a lot to worry about besides Peters power shots. Wlad was able to stay on the outside and box, then tie Peter up when he got on the inside. That protected him, although he did show better stamina by going the distance. And if Byrd will only have time to block or slip Wlad punches then Wlad will be gassed by the 5th round from throwing all of those punches. The key for Wlad is to keep a pace that wont tire himself out to fast.
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I voted Wlad by knockout.
I honestly think that Wlad still has enough to beat Byrd & I also feel that Byrd has drastically slowed in his defensive abilities...that's what got him through the first mess when he tangled with Wlad all those years ago.
After seeing the photo shots of Byrd training for this fight & looking at his physical condition lately...I might be eating my own hat.
Personally...the cat looks determined & in shape.
We may all get a pleasant surprise with this one. Byrd could actually be coming to Germany for an upset...thoughts?
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Is eveyrone forgettign that Wladimir just beat Samuel Peter?
He's proven himself once again in the big fight enviornment. He's proven he can avoid punches in case his chin fails.
Chris Byrd has slowed both of hand and foot, and he hasn't gotten much technically better. Byrd has underrated power whn he puts something on it, but he will be too focused his defense to really set anything up. Wladimir will be throwing punches and Chris will only have time to try and blcok/alip them.
Wladimir KO7
Peter is not the most tactical fighter out there. He comes in to KO somebody and thats it. Technically he is not that great either, so it wasnt like Wlad had a lot to worry about besides Peters power shots. Wlad was able to stay on the outside and box, then tie Peter up when he got on the inside. That protected him, although he did show better stamina by going the distance. And if Byrd will only have time to block or slip Wlad punches then Wlad will be gassed by the 5th round from throwing all of those punches. The key for Wlad is to keep a pace that wont tire himself out to fast.
You're right, Peter isn't.
That wasn't my point however.
My point is that Wlad has proven himself again in the big fight enviornment with a guy who could punch.
Wlad didn't have much to worry about when he stayed on the outside, so what makes you think Chris Byrd would be any different?
You are exactly right on Wlad keeping the pace, this will be key for him in this fight.
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Is eveyrone forgettign that Wladimir just beat Samuel Peter?
He's proven himself once again in the big fight enviornment. He's proven he can avoid punches in case his chin fails.
Chris Byrd has slowed both of hand and foot, and he hasn't gotten much technically better. Byrd has underrated power whn he puts something on it, but he will be too focused his defense to really set anything up. Wladimir will be throwing punches and Chris will only have time to try and blcok/alip them.
Wladimir KO7
Peter is not the most tactical fighter out there. He comes in to KO somebody and thats it. Technically he is not that great either, so it wasnt like Wlad had a lot to worry about besides Peters power shots. Wlad was able to stay on the outside and box, then tie Peter up when he got on the inside. That protected him, although he did show better stamina by going the distance. And if Byrd will only have time to block or slip Wlad punches then Wlad will be gassed by the 5th round from throwing all of those punches. The key for Wlad is to keep a pace that wont tire himself out to fast.
You're right, Peter isn't.
That wasn't my point however.
My point is that Wlad has proven himself again in the big fight enviornment with a guy who could punch.
Wlad didn't have much to worry about when he stayed on the outside, so what makes you think Chris Byrd would be any different?
You are exactly right on Wlad keeping the pace, this will be key for him in this fight.
I think Chris Byrd will be different because he can move and box a lot better. Byrd has a good chin, and I think if he can keep a high pace in this fight then he could tire Wlad out and then just outbox him down the stretch. Wlad's new style of boxing on the outside then tying up in close will do great for him. He will better utilize his skills this way. And it keeps him out of harms way for longer periods.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
Wlad decision.
I'm surprised so many people think Wlad can KO him when he wasn't able to the 1st time, and for good reason, Byrd's really hard to put leather on.
Anyway it's in Germany so I figure even if it's dead even Wlad will get the decision.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
Byrd has slown down quite a bit now...that's going to be as much of a factor as Wlad's stamina issues.
This match up brings a lot of questions to the top of the page & that's why I think that it ends up being a great fight.
Who's got what left & how will it effect the other?
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Is eveyrone forgettign that Wladimir just beat Samuel Peter?
He's proven himself once again in the big fight enviornment. He's proven he can avoid punches in case his chin fails.
Chris Byrd has slowed both of hand and foot, and he hasn't gotten much technically better. Byrd has underrated power whn he puts something on it, but he will be too focused his defense to really set anything up. Wladimir will be throwing punches and Chris will only have time to try and blcok/alip them.
Wladimir KO7
Peter is not the most tactical fighter out there. He comes in to KO somebody and thats it. Technically he is not that great either, so it wasnt like Wlad had a lot to worry about besides Peters power shots. Wlad was able to stay on the outside and box, then tie Peter up when he got on the inside. That protected him, although he did show better stamina by going the distance. And if Byrd will only have time to block or slip Wlad punches then Wlad will be gassed by the 5th round from throwing all of those punches. The key for Wlad is to keep a pace that wont tire himself out to fast.
You're right, Peter isn't.
That wasn't my point however.
My point is that Wlad has proven himself again in the big fight enviornment with a guy who could punch.
Wlad didn't have much to worry about when he stayed on the outside, so what makes you think Chris Byrd would be any different?
You are exactly right on Wlad keeping the pace, this will be key for him in this fight.
I think Chris Byrd will be different because he can move and box a lot better. Byrd has a good chin, and I think if he can keep a high pace in this fight then he could tire Wlad out and then just outbox him down the stretch. Wlad's new style of boxing on the outside then tying up in close will do great for him. He will better utilize his skills this way. And it keeps him out of harms way for longer periods.
These two guys have fought before.
Byrd has only slowed down with his hands, feet, reflexes and head movement.
Wlad won't allow Byrd to get close unless he gets worn out..he really only held because he didn't want to get hit by Peter.
Byrd has 2 ways he can win
1. Get Wlad to wear himself out
2. Constantly move to Wlad's left for 12 rounds and pitter pat
I don't see the second one happening though ;)
Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II. Who's gonna win this one & how?
I see Wlad winning another comfortable UD. Byrd may not get decked like last time but I can't see him doing anything to fluster Wlad.
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I voted Wlad by knockout.
I honestly think that Wlad still has enough to beat Byrd & I also feel that Byrd has drastically slowed in his defensive abilities...that's what got him through the first mess when he tangled with Wlad all those years ago.
After seeing the photo shots of Byrd training for this fight & looking at his physical condition lately...I might be eating my own hat.
Personally...the cat looks determined & in shape.
We may all get a pleasant surprise with this one. Byrd could actually be coming to Germany for an upset...thoughts?
i think your crazy ;D
i cant see byrd having any chance
