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Brockton Blockbuuster,
Correct on 'Irish Pat' Duncan.
A Good Heavyweight.
After the 'loss' to Earnie Shavers on September 28, 1971 >
'Irish Pat' won 14-of-15 over the next 2 1/2 years.
By March 1974 >
'Irish Pat' {Age; 25 years, 2 months} got to > 33-5-1 {23 KO's}, which included wins
over quality opponents;
* Fred Lewis
* Elmer Rush
* Danny McAlinden {@ Royal Albert Hall, London, United Kingdom}
Pat Duncan reached the #15 WBC Heavyweight position in February 1974.
Thanks Triple 'B'
Earnie Shavers 'ruined' Young Agabab's career.
After going 14-0-0 with {13 KO's}, the highly-touted and talented Nigerian
'never' fought again.
He was laid out for 15-Minutes on the canvas, after getting KO'd in the
1st Round by Earnie.
'Word to the Wise' ....... "Don't mess with Earnie"
You amaze me how much crap you come out with, are you old enough were you even born whenQuote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Ali and co were fighting, I WAS I remember Ali fighting in the 60's when I was a kid.
It seems you like to be controversial, or there again you maybe full of SHIT I myself go for option 2
it seems to fit.;)
Holmes and Ali beat Shavers so why would they say he hit hard?
Holmes could have said Tyson hit me the hardest and Ali could have said Foreman.
Wednesday ~ January 6, 1971
Silver Slipper ~ Las Vegas, Nevada
Earnie 'The Razor' Shavers ~ 17-2-0 {17 KO's} ~ 209 lbs.
vs.
Lee 'Duke Spears' Estes ~ 11-26-3 {5 KO's} ~ 233 lbs.
Earnie Shavers {Age; 25 years, 5 months} signs a contract with the
Silver Slipper in Las Vegas to be a 'house fighter' for their
weekly 'Wednesday Night at the Fights' circuit.
Fight Promoter - Bill Miller is on a quest to promote some power-punching
Heavyweights and build them into Top Contenders.
This will be Earnie's 1st-Bout in Las Vegas, and it is scheduled for 8-Rounds.
Earnie is listed as being from Youngstown, Ohio.
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Lee 'Duke Spears' Estes is a burly 6' 1" 233 lb. brawler from Seattle, Washington.
Though Lee Estes has a poor record, he has a reputation of being able to 'take it'.
Quietly, the Silver Slipper posts Lee Estes as having a record of '17-wins' with
{11 KO's}. There is no mention of his losses.
"Shavers Shows Off Power, Knocks Out Estes in 2"
Earnie Shavers exploded a right-hand off the head of Lee Estes
and dropped the Seattle, Washington Heavyweight for the count
@ 1:22 of Round 2.
Shavers {209 lbs.} came out bombing from the Opening Bell, and
had Estes {233 lbs.} bobbing like a bouncing Ping-Pong ball.
Late in the 1st-Round, Shavers wobbled Estes with a long right-hand
to the temple, and then had the Northwest Brawler bleeding badly
from the Nose after tagging him with '2' sweeping left-hooks.
Shavers continued with his assault in Round 2, and battered Estes
all over the Ring with lopping right-hands to the head.
With a groggy opponent in front of him, Shavers teed off on Estes
with '2' booming right-hands to the head that had him out on his feet.
Shavers added in one more right-hand, and Estes went down on his
back, and to be counted out @ 1:22 of Round 2.
Ali told David Frost a month after the Shavers fight that Earnie had hit hit him so fucking hard in the 2nd and 13th rounds that he slipped a disc in his cervical vertebrae (the small vertebrae of the neck) and his left eardrum had a slight perforation in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Earnie fought 13 times there in a matter of 3 months and 3 weeks, with 11 KOs and 2 UD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Shavers could kill a man in the ring. He ruined a lot of up and coming fighters careers. "Irish" Pat was not the same after that brutal attack by Shavers. either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
FACT. @Max Power Duncan was no joke, and was being prepared as the Great White Hope. Shavers slowed Pat's career down, even though Pat did "well" from there on. Shavers ruiined lots of fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Ok but what about Lewis he was far bigger well coordinated and knew how to punch. Shavers hit hard but in big fights did not have the hart or stamina to finish like great so the power tad overrated. I mean i feel lewis and Bowie probably hit harder then he did but what ever.
Have we not established he was one of the hardest punching heavyweights?
Simple formula
Max says he is not = he is. :)
Wednesday ~ February 3, 1971
Silver Slipper ~ Las Vegas, Nevada
Earnie Shavers ~ 19-2-0 {19 KO's} ~ 204 lbs.
vs.
Johnny Mac ~ 5-6-0 {1 KO} ~ 189 lbs.
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Interesting, as this is Earnie's '1st' scheduled 10-Rounder.
Earnie {Age; 25 years, 5 months} is a late-bloomer. Earnie is now being
billed from Cleveland, Ohio.
Johnny Mac {aka; MacArthur Swindell} is a 6' 0" tall - light-hitting Heavyweight
from Chicago, Illinois.
Johnny {Age; 23 years, 1 month} is no stranger to Earnie. He fought Shavers
3-Months earlier, back on November 8, 1970 in Youngstown, Ohio.
In that bout, Johnny gave Earnie fits, before being stopped by a TKO in 4.
Johnny Mac is being billed with a record of > 8-3-0 with {3 KO's}, and is listed
as a 'crafty' Heavyweight from 'The Windy City'.
Let's get this straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
IM NOT DENYING HIS POWER!
Its just ludicrous to believe that a 210lb fighter from 1970 who FAILED to KO heavy and decent opponents in his own era even, could REALLY be one of the hardest, keyword "EST" of punchers.
ESPECIALLY when he never fought the wide array of superheavyweight punchers and other bangers with even better performance stats than he had!
But but but, these other golden era boys said he hit hardest DOE!
Well OBVIOULY these guys are LYING for the reasons outlined, their word is worth less than a drop of piss in the desert once scrutinised AND none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger to know! (Except Holmes, who was KTFO! Only time ever!)
none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger?
What could they possibly do, get into a Tardis?