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I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF
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BTW, I'm flattered by your Puto reference, wetback. Puto is actually gigolo in Spanish, and is actually a pretty lofty standard to live up to.
isn't wetback a racial slur? please tell me we are allowed to proceed with any language now, that would be great for the forum & free speech
I answered a racial slur with another one. You don't like it? Report me.
i thought puto meant bitch or slut, nothing to do with skin colour or race. i have no problem with it & fully support free speech. i never censor words i use or topics i talk about & would support a forum that stood by freedom
In the context it was used it was meant as a racial slur. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but I'm extending you this one courtesy.
Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF
BTW, it's "puta" that means "bitch" or "slut". That's the advantage of knowing two languages rather than butchering one you know nothing about. "Puto" means gigolo, but whatever... the intent was the same.
You pitch... you gotta be willing to catch. ;)
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TIC
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TIC
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame
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BTW, I'm flattered by your Puto reference, wetback. Puto is actually gigolo in Spanish, and is actually a pretty lofty standard to live up to.
isn't wetback a racial slur? please tell me we are allowed to proceed with any language now, that would be great for the forum & free speech
I answered a racial slur with another one. You don't like it? Report me.
i thought puto meant bitch or slut, nothing to do with skin colour or race. i have no problem with it & fully support free speech. i never censor words i use or topics i talk about & would support a forum that stood by freedom
In the context it was used it was meant as a racial slur. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but I'm extending you this one courtesy.
as i said i thought it meant bitch or slut. so like bitch ass rican fans. you seem to be assuming how the context was meant. i took it in another context
Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF
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BTW, it's "puta" that means "bitch" or "slut". That's the advantage of knowing two languages rather than butchering one you know nothing about. "Puto" means gigolo, but whatever... the intent was the same.
You pitch... you gotta be willing to catch. ;)
well google says prostitute. even google translate from spanish to english says fucking
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnAzXza...g&name=900x900
urban dictionary says
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnCIMva...png&name=small
used to imply weakness or cowardice, like a little bitch. i'll stick with that implication yeh. i'm glad we don't have an censoring here
Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF
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TIC
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Master
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame
You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.
Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame
You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.
Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.
the major point is he didn't inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. how many others were there? you have already admitted officially none. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame for admittance. i don't think anotnio should be in the hall of fame, he didn't do enough for me but if he is being refused for his alleged cheating then he is being held to a different standard than someone like shane
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TIC
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TitoFan
BTW, it's "puta" that means "bitch" or "slut". That's the advantage of knowing two languages rather than butchering one you know nothing about. "Puto" means gigolo, but whatever... the intent was the same.
You pitch... you gotta be willing to catch. ;)
well google says prostitute. even google translate from spanish to english says fucking
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnAzXza...g&name=900x900
urban dictionary says
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnCIMva...png&name=small
used to imply weakness or cowardice, like a little bitch. i'll stick with that implication yeh. i'm glad we don't have an censoring here
So if I called you a "cabrón", "mamabicho", "pendejo", you'd resort to some urban dictionary rather than someone who actually knows the type of Spanish spoken here in Puerto Rico?
Hmm... odd choice, but you do you.
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
BTW, it's "puta" that means "bitch" or "slut". That's the advantage of knowing two languages rather than butchering one you know nothing about. "Puto" means gigolo, but whatever... the intent was the same.
You pitch... you gotta be willing to catch. ;)
well google says prostitute. even google translate from spanish to english says fucking
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnAzXza...g&name=900x900
urban dictionary says
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNnCIMva...png&name=small
used to imply weakness or cowardice, like a little bitch. i'll stick with that implication yeh. i'm glad we don't have an censoring here
So if I called you a "cabrón", "mamabicho", "pendejo", you'd resort to some urban dictionary rather than someone who actually knows the type of Spanish spoken here in Puerto Rico?
Hmm... odd choice, but you do you.
i'd go by how i understand those terms to be used here, not in puerto rico. was rotten apple using the type of spanish spoken there in puerto rico? he may have been implying puto the way i understand it over here. not odd, terms are used differently all over the world. i always do me
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame
You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.
Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.
the major point is he didn't inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. how many others were there? you have already admitted officially none. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame for admittance. i don't think anotnio should be in the hall of fame, he didn't do enough for me but if he is being refused for his alleged cheating then he is being held to a different standard than someone like shane
The major point is Margarito should not be going into a fight intending to use illegal hand wraps. He was caught and you are rewarding him for that which is wrong.
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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Rotten Apple
I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.
The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.
If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?
that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine
He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat
It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.
Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.
you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame
You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.
Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.
the major point is he didn't inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. how many others were there? you have already admitted officially none. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame for admittance. i don't think anotnio should be in the hall of fame, he didn't do enough for me but if he is being refused for his alleged cheating then he is being held to a different standard than someone like shane
The major point is Margarito should not be going into a fight intending to use illegal hand wraps. He was caught and you are rewarding him for that which is wrong.
the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you have admitted it is officially none. i am not rewarding anyone. i am pointing out the difference between hitting someone with loaded wraps & non loaded wraps. antonio took whatever punishment was handed out to him for whatever happened outside of combat. someone like shane who may have received whatever benefits from peds & entered combat is not being held to the same hall of fame standards they are putting on antonio
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As I originally said there are better ways to make your point TIC.
Using your argument, I could say if Shane was caught using PED then what contest after that did he actually cheat in.
