UFO's & Ghosts

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Originally Posted by CGM

I don't know if this counts, but once when I was very young I saw a monster lurking in the shadows outside my bedroom door.

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Was it Gary Glitter?

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Originally Posted by Andre

I dont think there are many other life forms simular to us out there on our physical level; but i know there are billions unlike us.
Dimensional light speed varies alot, its not a fixed thing, so you can't usually see or hear things from the other dimensions if you are using only 3d instruments like our eyes ears and anything we physically can make from them. There are twelve to thirteen dimensions just in our area. Some people can glimpse the ones from either side of us, from the second dimension of whats called hell and the fourth dimension of angelic light but the other higher ones are well out of our reach until we raise our personal lower vibrations up a level at a time.

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Just out of interest where do you get all your information from?

Is there a book or text that you can point me to that explains your views or do you just start writing and put down whatever comes in your head?

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Originally Posted by Andre

I dont think there are many other life forms simular to us out there on our physical level; but i know there are billions unlike us.
Dimensional light speed varies alot, its not a fixed thing, so you can't usually see or hear things from the other dimensions if you are using only 3d instruments like our eyes ears and anything we physically can make from them. There are twelve to thirteen dimensions just in our area. Some people can glimpse the ones from either side of us, from the second dimension of whats called hell and the fourth dimension of angelic light but the other higher ones are well out of our reach until we raise our personal lower vibrations up a level at a time.

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That may change soon enough, with advances in cloning and genetic manipulation. Kind of scares me, actually.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Kel

Fucking hell Andre, this ain't StarTrek. You really think there are other dimentions and all that shit?

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I know there are. Our scientists have found alot of them too. I cant remember what they are up to on count, but they have proven theres a few and they can physically watch electrons pop in and out of our 3d one already.
What is so hard to belive :confused:, we are like a pin head on a beach; planet earth compared to us in the Galaxy, then theres the whole universe to contend with. I love it.

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How can you find another dimention? What do they look like, what do they do? Im really curious

:biteit:OK then; :-\ There a three stages.
You clean up your inner sanctum ,which allows you to go deeper within without fear ,hate or any of the other energies that are from the second dimension . You meditate, then the undestructable part of you travels at over the light speed of the dimension that you are in without burning up and you will join up into a heavenly blissful state of unified consiousness.And that is only one level up!

The opposite way is much easier to reach but not worth the price of the fight to get out and back to here.

Pretty cool (I just made that up) Didn't I Bilbo ;D.

Oh what do they do?, I missed that part .
They are actually ladders of ascension and safe ground, protecting you from the one below,there for your spiritual evolution not some stupid punishment.
Look at what people here on Earth actually do with their intent,they either summon up hell and spread it around or bring down heaven for others, or they just enjoy the physical view and what it has to offer on that one level and try to pretend the other stuff isn't occuring. We are in a grey area by our own choice,its all about points of view.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Andre

I dont think there are many other life forms simular to us out there on our physical level; but i know there are billions unlike us.
Dimensional light speed varies alot, its not a fixed thing, so you can't usually see or hear things from the other dimensions if you are using only 3d instruments like our eyes ears and anything we physically can make from them. There are twelve to thirteen dimensions just in our area. Some people can glimpse the ones from either side of us, from the second dimension of whats called hell and the fourth dimension of angelic light but the other higher ones are well out of our reach until we raise our personal lower vibrations up a level at a time.

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Just out of interest where do you get all your information from?

Is there a book or text that you can point me to that explains your views or do you just start writing and put down whatever comes in your head?

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Theres a name you could start with.

It is from the practices of the original high priest on Earth;Melchizedeck the one who taught Moses and all those before and all those that came after him. He gets an early mention or two in the bible if you look.

Andre been there, wonderful place. Butits more of a mathmatical impossibilty for there not to be other life forms in the universe. There are more Suns in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth, the equastion is, there are 5,000,000, planets that will have lifeforms like ours. One little thing, they will have something that we have to produce an end product,.. Hands. ;D

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Andre

I dont think there are many other life forms simular to us out there on our physical level; but i know there are billions unlike us.
Dimensional light speed varies alot, its not a fixed thing, so you can't usually see or hear things from the other dimensions if you are using only 3d instruments like our eyes ears and anything we physically can make from them. There are twelve to thirteen dimensions just in our area. Some people can glimpse the ones from either side of us, from the second dimension of whats called hell and the fourth dimension of angelic light but the other higher ones are well out of our reach until we raise our personal lower vibrations up a level at a time.

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Just out of interest where do you get all your information from?

Is there a book or text that you can point me to that explains your views or do you just start writing and put down whatever comes in your head?

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Theres a name you could start with.

It is from the practices of the original high priest on Earth;Melchizedeck the one who taught Moses and all those before and all those that came after him. He gets an early mention or two in the bible if you look.

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I am familiar with Melchizidek, he annointed Abraham after his victory over the five kings. I know he has some mystical significance to some, supposedly born without parents and his priesthood was higher than Aaron's.

I know nothing about him instructing Moses though, and I belive he's only mentioned in Genesis and later in the New Testament by Paul, who used him as an example to the Jews to explain that the old Levitical priesthood was obselete.

I know nothing else about him though, and certainly nothing in connection with all the stuff you come out with :confused:

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Andre been there, wonderful place. Butits more of a mathmatical impossibilty for there not to be other life forms in the universe. There are more Suns in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth, the equastion is, there are 5,000,000, planets that will have lifeforms like ours. One little thing, they will have something that we have to produce an end product,.. Hands. ;D

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It is.
Oh and that is so cool , the odds I mean.
The scientists here dont know what a Sun actually is and what its intent is ,they only know that its an object that emits our energy and life force including all of what we are physically made up of.we came from one of them that went nova.
Energy vibrates at different levels and we are that exact same energy put together into this form.Theres no real secrets behind why when you look at it all square on.
Hands and a point to view, eh :cool:.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Andre been there, wonderful place. Butits more of a mathmatical impossibilty for there not to be other life forms in the universe. There are more Suns in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth, the equastion is, there are 5,000,000, planets that will have lifeforms like ours. One little thing, they will have something that we have to produce an end product,.. Hands. ;D

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Actually the number of planets in the universe makes no difference at all to how likely life elsewhere in the universe may be.

It all depends on whether live can spontanously appear by chance or not.

If it can, then there may indeed be life on other planets.

If it can't however then it could only be on other planets if God or some intelligence created it there. If that's the case, then the number of planets would make no difference, he either put it there or he didn't

It's worth reminding of course that 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x 0 is still zero ;)

The number of planets isn't the issue, it's whether or not life can spontaneously create. If it can't then there's only life where God or a designer chose to put it.

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by Andre

I dont think there are many other life forms simular to us out there on our physical level; but i know there are billions unlike us.
Dimensional light speed varies alot, its not a fixed thing, so you can't usually see or hear things from the other dimensions if you are using only 3d instruments like our eyes ears and anything we physically can make from them. There are twelve to thirteen dimensions just in our area. Some people can glimpse the ones from either side of us, from the second dimension of whats called hell and the fourth dimension of angelic light but the other higher ones are well out of our reach until we raise our personal lower vibrations up a level at a time.

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That may change soon enough, with advances in cloning and genetic manipulation. Kind of scares me, actually.

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And if we can go that far physically; :-\ I doubt it; silicon and carbon life forms interacting then making consiouss decisions, then evolving further into something seperate.

Everyone should read Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs.

Go to your library and check it out.

Where ever they are it will be the same mix as us Enviroment will be a factor. Also somewhere down the line through years of evolution, they will have developed Biopsyhicaly something that made us the head of the Foodchain. The main thing Im told for our intelligence a Thumb.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

I suppose, Ive been foptunate or unfortunate depending on your take in Life, as the people I have met, I get about abit. But amongst them Ive met 3 Test Pilots 2 English and 1 American, all Boxing Fans who I have had long conversations with on the subject. The 2 english Pilots test Radar around the east coast as far North as the Shetlands thats in Britain. They tell me they have been tailed for up to an Hour by UFOs, once by one that was as big as Wembely Stadium. They said they shit themselves, and everyone on the ground tracked it on radar, plus other Storys. These guys are not dreamers, they are Honest senseable people not idiots. But they did say ,if I ever said they told me they would deny it. ;D

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I think the pilots of today are the modern day equivalents of the fishermen of the past. Yes they probably saw something, but by the time they reached the shore dimensions of the object have been greatly exxaggerated.

But we are not talking 300 years later ;D

Bomp, When something on Radar travels at 10,000 miles an Hour, its not a Fish not even a Flying one. ;D

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Where ever they are it will be the same mix as us Enviroment will be a factor. Also somewhere down the line through years of evolution, they will have developed Biopsyhicaly something that made us the head of the Foodchain. The main thing Im told for our intelligence a Thumb.

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Yeah, I more or less agree. Somewhere out there in another solar system is a planet with a life form like us. There may be many such planets. There are too many stars out there for this not to be possible. Problem is, we will never get to meet this life form, ever, unless you believe that someday man will travel at faster than the speed of light.

I dont understand wormholes, but they say thats one way of doing it. I think we are still playing at it, the evidence seems to support this. ;D

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Where ever they are it will be the same mix as us Enviroment will be a factor. Also somewhere down the line through years of evolution, they will have developed Biopsyhicaly something that made us the head of the Foodchain. The main thing Im told for our intelligence a Thumb.

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Yeah, I more or less agree. Somewhere out there in another solar system is a planet with a life form like us. There may be many such planets. There are too many stars out there for this not to be possible. Problem is, we will never get to meet this life form, ever, unless you believe that someday man will travel at faster than the speed of light.

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It would entail an understanding of the universe beyond relativity and that for it to be possible.

As for the 10,000mph radar thingy Scrap, the cynic in me says it's a glitch ;D. I find the whole UFO debate intriguing, but I need to see it with my own eyes, I think Bilbo put it well in one of the other posts, anything's possible without having to resort to the extraterrestial explanation first.

Bomp absolutaly, years ago I thought it was Bollocks. But the older I get plus the people I come into contact with, well informed people, I can tell when people are romancing, tell me events with sincerity I listen Im good at that. You would be surprised whats Hushed up and why.

Evidence found of solar system around nearby star - Yahoo! News

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Originally Posted by Scrap

I dont understand wormholes, but they say thats one way of doing it. I think we are still playing at it, the evidence seems to support this. ;D

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Just for the exersize of expanding the canvas we are chatting about so to speak;

Our scientists say that black holes have such a density that even light can not survive within one.

Seen from a different perspective than from within our duality or from the new stand point of Einsteins brilliant relativity.

Worm holes could be starting points of future black holes that are not yet at the light speed of the galaxy or the dimension that they are physically in.

Once it surpasses the light speed of its own dimension its a different ball game.

I feel it deep that light is indestructable; but I think it does change speed when something is added to it or removed from around it.vapour /vacume.

So once it accelerates beyond it own birth places phisical laws it will of course vanish from the point that beholds it, if the point isnt keeping up with it.

I belive that light is going at such a rate within a black hole that it only appears black to us from our fixed point of view.

Oh Bilbo ,I made that up :cool:
(I wish I was that smart :eek: ).

We're bumping this....and just in time for Halloween!

WikiLeaks, it ain't just for sending Hillary away from DC....there's Aliens in there too
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30433


Just an FYI a 'Fastwalker' is an official military intelligence nickname for a UFO.


Gents, your thoughts?