Orlando Salido vs. "Mikey" Garcia - Saturday night fight/chat thread

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Originally Posted by Mar

Ggg can effin hit but someone else that can too will give him tons of trouble

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Uh...ok.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

GGG seems massively overrated on this forum. He is good, but he isn't the god he's been made out to be. I think Sergio would be too smart for him. I think Quillin would give him trouble too.

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He has great ring smarts, power in both hands, and is hard to hit. His amateur pedigree is obvious and has been very successfully converted into the skills that make a very good pro. He would demolish Sergio and melt kid chocolate. Until he is given the chance to prove it, then it is all conjecture but I don't see any other Middleweights on planet earth as well rounded, single minded,adaptable or dangerous as GGG. He the man.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Q -"hey mikey garcia... remember when you won your first title by claiming you couldn't go on because of a broken nose and knew you'd win on points if they went to the score cards?"

mikey garcia - "yeah"

Q -"...and your opponent salido was coming on, having his most effective rounds where he was connecting with hard shots? do you remember what you said after the fight?

mikey garcia - "yeah. i said its hard to breathe with a broken nose"

congratulations champ. you deserve it!!!!

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You and I would have fought on, ignoring the rules and the doctors because we like to fight with a disadvantage but that little chicken shit Garcia quit. What a prick. God, I wish there were more macho men like you and I in boxing.
Salido did himself a favor with that, in my opinion, questionable head butt as he was on his way to being KOed. He's lucky you or I weren't in there because we would have continued to beat the shit out of him.

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Originally Posted by fightscorecollector

How did you all score the Salido-garcia fight, I had it 79-69 at time of stoppage

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That's about how I had it @fightscorecollector, 79-69 when the fight was stopped. Garcia had a 10-7 in the 1st (2 KD's) and two 10-8 rounds in the 3rd and 4th, each round with another KD. Salido who showed a lot of sack surviving the KD's and the beating he was taking, probably did enough to win the 7th round.
In rounds I had it Garcia 6-1 before the ring Dr. stopped it:
From ESPN:
"We went up to check him, and it is very broken," Dr. Robert Polofsky said of Garcia's nose. "It was too dangerous to have him to continue to fight like that, so we made the decision to stop the fight. He couldn't breathe."

Garcia is going to be hard for anyone to beat @ featherweight, he's the total package of speed, power, great technical/boxing skills, and a good defense.

Garcia looked spectacular. Orlando Salido looked old, but a lot of that is due to Garcia and taking Salido right out of his gameplan with those early knockdowns.

What tremendous heart by Salido, he was bringing it up til the end.

The stoppage and whole situation was simliar to Cotto vs. Margarito II.

Salido, much like Margarito was coming on, but it was a long shot.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

GGG seems massively overrated on this forum. He is good, but he isn't the god he's been made out to be. I think Sergio would be too smart for him. I think Quillin would give him trouble too.

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He has great ring smarts, power in both hands, and is hard to hit. His amateur pedigree is obvious and lhas been very successfully converted into the skills that make a very good pro. He would demolish Sergio and melt kid chocolate. Until he is given the chance to prove it, then it is all conjecture but I don't see any other Middleweights on planet earth as well rounded, single minded,adaptable or dangerous as GGG. He the man.

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I'm not so sure about Martinez or Gonzalez but I agree with everything else you said.
GGG did well against Rosado, a game, tough, quick fighter who ignored all the hype about GGG and came to win.
Styles make fights and for a few rounds Rosado's had GGG looking less than perfect. Golovkin stayed calm and pounded on Rosado until his corner threw in the towel.
GGG impressed me more with this difficult fight than if it had been over within 30 seconds.

I deliberately forgot to make my picks this past week to give some of you louts a fighting chance at beating me by March. Seeing as I am about to blow away the pack over the next 4 weeks and passing through Valentines Day like a demon. I will dazzle you with my Joker and shock the world with my *Star* fights.

I frikkin forgot to make my picks and Im pissed off more than you can know.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

I deliberately forgot to make my picks this past week to give some of you louts a fighting chance at beating me by March. Seeing as I am about to blow away the pack over the next 4 weeks and passing through Valentines Day like a demon. I will dazzle you with my Joker and shock the world with my *Star* fights.

I frikkin forgot to make my picks and Im pissed off more than you can know.

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To much curry rot's the brain.;D

First off, the undercard was appalling.

The main event looked like it was becoming a decent fight and then Garcia and 'the nose'. He was winning the fight hands down, but he completely punked out and there looked to be nothing seriously wrong with him. Even if the nose was broken, just get through the rounds. The people have paid their money to see an event and if you punk out then you lose respect and this guy lost my respect. Even before 'the nose' he was holding like a sissy and it was dulling the fight.

Garcia is another of those little men with a valient excuse and I can't be bothered with that. That is not how to win a belt.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

This card was a total letdown.

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Really Kirkland? I didn't like the 1st fight, but the last 2 were entertaining.

Overall a good night of boxing when you include the NBC fights.

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I was annoyed with all three fights. Bad decision for the first, no knockout and underwhelming Golovkin performance in the second and the third guy quit. Vazquez did that in the first fight against Marquez and lost the fight. It's a good job Smoger retroactively decided to count the headbutt.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

This card was a total letdown.

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Really Kirkland? I didn't like the 1st fight, but the last 2 were entertaining.

Overall a good night of boxing when you include the NBC fights.

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I was annoyed with all three fights. Bad decision for the first, no knockout and underwhelming Golovkin performance in the second and the third guy quit. Vazquez did that in the first fight against Marquez and lost the fight. It's a good job Smoger retroactively decided to count the headbutt.

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The decision (draw) in the 1st fight sucked mainly because Martinez should have lost but retained his title.
Golovkin performance could have been better in the 2nd fight, but as far as fights go it was watchable (yet bloody as hell) and somewhat entertaining.

As for Garcia vs. Salido, I wish it hadn't ended the way it did, but I thought it was a hell of a fight while it lasted. I'm never bored or disappointed in a fight when I get to see 4 KD's in 7 rounds.

I also enjoyed the 2 NBC fights, in retro: Ayala vs Stevens and Kovalev vs Campillo were actually more entertaining then the HBO card.

BTW, Lucas Matthysse vs. Michael Dallas Jr., next Saturday on Showtime, hopefully it will be competitive, but I believe Lucas will put a serious whippin' on Dallas.

cheers

i like GGG... he was a refreshing new face to me..and he has power.

even though i thought Garcia would dominate, i didn't know it would be this bad... i found myself rooting for Salido to catch Garcia ,at least once... still, for someone who was dominated like he was, Salido kept at him... no quit in him... the guy went down 4 or 5 times..and he kept coming... CRAZY.

Salido suffered a fractured orbital bone in his fight. Didn't quit. Didn't stop fighting. Didn't look to for an easy way out. Didn't use it as an excuse.

Garcia was punch perfect, great balance and poise.