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Khan beats Bradley. Full Stop.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Greenbeanz
Khan beats Bradley. Full Stop.
and Provodnikov ?
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Cracking fight!never thought ad say that watching Bradley.was on the edge ov my seat hoping he would get knocked out but credit when it's due he has some chin and conditioning to come bk from the first two rounds.think Bradley just done enough to nick it but that last round he showed alot ov heart to survive!
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the
benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
jab is a scoring punch, the jab is the most important punch because it controls the fight. You make it sound like Bradley did nothing but run and everytime Prov touched him he was out on his feet. Not true.
fuck off with that manny shit, go cry with that line to Marquez
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Khan beats Bradley. Full Stop.
and Provodnikov ?
I think Khan beats Bradly too. Havent seen this fight yet so wont comment on him beating Prov but I presume his class would take him through. Cant wait to get home and watch this fight now
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Gandalf
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
Clearly your Maths arent the best Spicoli. He still would lose 114-111 if there were 3 KDs in the rounds he won. I didnt see the fight so not commenting on the outcome or how close the fight was but if Bradley wins 9 rds 10-9 and Prov wins 3 rds 10-8 the result is Bradley wins the fight
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
I had the fight a draw. I gave Provodnikov 2 10 8 rounds. The 2nd and the 12th. You will not see a rematch. At least not yet.
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Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
There are some fights where you want two winners.
Bradley amazed me, really amazed me! I had no idea the Bradley we saw last night even existed. I knew he was a fierce competitor but that bottomless tank of heart, fighting spirit or whatever you want to call it was a real surprise.
It takes two to tango and Provodnikov gave Bradley everything he could handle and then some then some in a couple of rounds. Ruslan had Bradley staggering around in several rounds and was one punch away from a win multiple times. I thought Ruslan was punched out several times but he keep coming back.
A different referee might have called a knockdown in the first round. A different referee might have stopped the the fight in the first, second or last round.
Provodnikov could have won or it could have been a draw and I would still feel like it's a shame somebody has to lose.
HBO will be reshowing this for a while.
Bradley wins another iffy decision and displays all the heart he'll ever need.
Provodnikov proves he should be fighting at the top and misses a big upset win by the skin of his teeth.
Another referee leaves everyone shacking their heads and proving no matter how much experience you have, you are still human.
Bradley screwed himself in this fight, now that we know that other Bradley exists, we'll be wanting to see him every time he fights.
It's boxing and you can never be sure what's going to happen. Is that why we like it so much?
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
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Spicoli
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Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
Clearly your Maths arent the best Spicoli. He still would lose 114-111 if there were 3 KDs in the rounds he won. I didnt see the fight so not commenting on the outcome or how close the fight was but if Bradley wins 9 rds 10-9 and Prov wins 3 rds 10-8 the result is Bradley wins the fight
How is his math wrong and who is saying that Bradley won 9 rounds?. The official scores were 114/113, 115/112 and 114/113 so even giving Provo 1 10/8 round would have in fact led to a draw. Had he got the two or three 2 point edges he would have won the fight.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
Tim could have controlled this fight but he got caught up in the emotions that comes with big fights. His lay off didn't allow him to get relaxed and realize that this opponent needed to be boxed not fight with.
So a fight broke out and the men showed why top tier competitors have heart and the will to win.
If there was any questions about either of these men not giving their all it was certainly answered!
I though it was a one point victory for Tim with Rocky showing that a bit more higher work rate on his behave could have earned him a tko win over Tim. It was a nice change to see two men exhausted after the final bell had rung. So many so called top fights have both men no where near being tired after 12 rounds and that shows us who the real competitors are. "leave it all in the ring".
Ray.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
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Spicoli
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Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
Clearly your Maths arent the best Spicoli. He still would lose 114-111 if there were 3 KDs in the rounds he won. I didnt see the fight so not commenting on the outcome or how close the fight was but if Bradley wins 9 rds 10-9 and Prov wins 3 rds 10-8 the result is Bradley wins the fight
No, actually sucked in math and you are correct but again boxing isn't a math class so go rewatch...or watch the fight in the first place before standing on a soap box with a clipboard and red marker.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Spicoli
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Spicoli
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Spicoli
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Gandalf
Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
Clearly your Maths arent the best Spicoli. He still would lose 114-111 if there were 3 KDs in the rounds he won. I didnt see the fight so not commenting on the outcome or how close the fight was but if Bradley wins 9 rds 10-9 and Prov wins 3 rds 10-8 the result is Bradley wins the fight
No, actually sucked in math and you are correct but again boxing isn't a math class so go rewatch...or watch the fight in the first place before standing on a soap box with a clipboard and red marker.
The math you used is spot on. Even with one 10/8 scored two of the cards turn into 114/114. End of story.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Is anyone truly suggesting that Bradley lost that fight? I find that a strange way of thinking and especially as there was seemingly no KD in the first (I think there should have been a knockdown). Even with 2 scored KD's Provodnikov was outboxed throughout 3 quarters of the fight. That makes it closer, but an actual loss for Bradley? Peculiar.
Bradley was a walking concussion in this fight, he said so himself. He changed his game and boxed given that but he was in no way walking away with clean & comfort rounds like some boxing guru. He was hurt badly, and hurt on the reg.
It was no robbery but one guy alone did the clear hurting in this fight.
It doesn't matter if you beat someone up for 3 rounds and lose the other 9. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis and Bradley outlanded his opponent by a good 130 punches. Provodnikov won the event, but the fight was won by Bradley. The difference in power was obvious, but so was the difference in skill for the vast majority of the fight. Bradley was largely in control in all but rounds 1, 2 and 12 IMO. Provodnikov had his moments in other rounds, but he was largely outboxed. The only reason it was close is because Bradley had the red mist from the off. He fought a tactically terrible fight, but his class won him the rounds. He was a much better boxer.
Actually it does. Simply a kd in each of the three rounds and you have yourself a draw. You can have all the skill in the world but power is the game changer and the automatic eraser when its effects are obvious and take the opponent out of his gameplan, not to mention put him on queerstreet at multiple times. This is not amatuer boxing and sheer numbers do not outweigh impact effective punching! As fights are round by round they are also minute to minute and wobbling halfway across the ring and clearly stunned off two negates early jabbing in my book. Quality over quantity. This was a close mutual scrap with hearts on sleeves by both and the
benifit goes to the Champion they say, unless you are Manny, but to suggest that Bradley was waltzing away with clean rounds while also being hurt badly, forced into exchanges, is a distortion of what it means to "hit and not be hit!
jab is a scoring punch, the jab is the most important punch because it controls the fight. You make it sound like Bradley did nothing but run and everytime Prov touched him he was out on his feet. Not true.
fuck off with that manny shit, go cry with that line to Marquez
A jab doesn't control a fight if the other guy is shaking him harder and with more effect...and forcing exchanges! Its being made to sound Bradley was fucking boxing masterclass in 9 rounds and thats crap.
Relax the fuck yeah, dont really care if Manny was robbed and for ya info I saw Marquez robbed also.
Provo rounds 1,2,6,7,11,12
Tim rounds 3,4,5,8,9,10..........anyone else got a rbr feel free to throw it up.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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One last question. Did anyone else feel like strangling Roy Jones a couple of times?
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One last question. Did anyone else feel like strangling Roy Jones a couple of times?
Only after he twice said he loved Tim during the 1st round....btw Bradley landed more punches in the first...guess he won that one ???
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
What's so sad and why I would have given the Russian at least an SD is because of what Bradley said in the pre-fight montage- he said that the fight with Manny Pacqiaou "HURT" his career more than it helped. So in that sense he had to come back to prove something- which he clearly didn't do, as he got his ass handed to him for a good portion of the fight.
A Sugar Shane Mosely he is NOT. Sugar Shane would have come back in his next fight and STARCHED the opponent. Bradley had to get help from the judges.
The fight I saw, Bradley was being beat-and beat badly. Not as bad as a Pac-man beating, but beaten to the point where we knew he had reached his peak as a fighter.
The only thing about Bradley's "off the top points" is due to his promoter, Bob Arum- and Arum working this line of the undefeated fighter, with hopes of a payday showdown with Money Mayweather SINCE the Pac-man fight is falling through and no longer lucrative!
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
What's so sad and why I would have given the Russian at least an SD is because of what Bradley said in the pre-fight montage- he said that the fight with Manny Pacqiaou "HURT" his career more than it helped. So in that sense he had to come back to prove something- which he clearly didn't do, as he got his ass handed to him for a good portion of the fight.
A Sugar Shane Mosely he is NOT. Sugar Shane would have come back in his next fight and STARCHED the opponent. Bradley had to get help from the judges.
The fight I saw, Bradley was being beat-and beat badly. Not as bad as a Pac-man beating, but beaten to the point where we knew he had reached his peak as a fighter.
The only thing about Bradley's "off the top points" is due to his promoter, Bob Arum- and Arum working this line of the undefeated fighter, with hopes of a payday showdown with Money Mayweather SINCE the Pac-man fight is falling through and no longer lucrative!
Real tough fight to score. I thought Tim showed incredible heart and came back nicely to win an SD even factoring in a couple of 10/8 rounds myself but had 1 or 2 of what I scored 10/8 rounds been scored officially Provo would have drew or won the fight on 2 of the 3 official scorecards.
As far as Bradley/Floyd goes, I just don't see it. If they could not make the other fight they wont make this one. Floyd probably hates Arum more today then he ever did. Add to that the no love lost between TR and GBP and the chances of that fight happening are slim to none and slim just left the building.
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
How did the referee in round one not call this a knockdown? Bradley was obviously hurt:
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
I was going to say that Max is the last bastion of objectivity on the broadcasts but unfortunately in order to listen to him I have to listen to Lapdog and hired guests. I could not believe Roy. Never heard that kind of bias from him before.
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Lol no shit. Hbo is rebroadcasting the fight now.
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One last question. Did anyone else feel like strangling Roy Jones a couple of times?
Yeah, I muted the sound somewhere around the 3rd round, not just Jones but Lamps as well, the bias for Bradley was absolutely sickening.
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I find myself agreeing with miles..
Never agree with miles, he speaks with forked-tongue. :-X
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
I was going to say that Max is the last bastion of objectivity on the broadcasts but unfortunately in order to listen to him I have to listen to Lapdog and hired guests. I could not believe Roy. Never heard that kind of bias from him before.
Love Roy as a boxer, but he was absolutely terrible as a commentator last night. Cheer leading for Bradley the whole way and pompously comparing his heart to his own courage in the ring. It was nice to see Bradley get dropped at the end and shut Roy up. He was imagining punches hurting Provodnikov "really bad" when they weren't doing all that much damage.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
Early contender for the fight of the year in my book. Great clash. Bradley eeked out a decision, but Ruslan showed himself on a world stage. With the bad taste left in fight fans' mouths after Bradley beat Pacquiao last year, this was a good way for Bradley to earn his way back into onto their good side. I'm excited about seeing him in his next fight, whether it be Marquez, Rios, Pacquiao, or Alvarado.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
Just watched the fight, I scored it 115-110 Provodnikov (scored both rounds 1 and 2 10-8). At best, I could see it as a draw, but I thought it was a pretty clear win for Provodnikov. 115-112 is a criminal score.
The entire HBO, bar Kellerman, was awful. Roy Jones was the worst I have ever heard him. He reminded me of a punch-drunk George Foreman.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
Its always a shame when an inept ref decision changes the outcome of a fight. Score the first round a knockdown and the fight gets scored a Draw and an obvious rematch takes place, not to mention an extra deserved payday for Provodnikov.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
I had it 114-113 Provodnikov
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Just watched the fight now and WOW! Mad props to both guys. I had rounds 1, 2, 6, 12 for provo and the 11th possibly...hbo should just show the guys the money and have em go at it again, not sure how bradley didn't go down four or five times, as opposed to just twice, even if only one counted. Not a bad decision I don't think but sucks for provo that it came down to a noncall on a kd. Also the commentary was a bit biased from roy but kellerman I felt kept both roy and lampley in check for the most part haha.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
I didn't score the fight while I was watching it, but I thought it was a close fight either way. It wasn't a Campillo-Cloud, Rios-Abril type of decision to me. That's just me. I thought Bradley out-hustled Provodnikov in many of the middle rounds, but Provodnikov started strong, and closed strong.
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I didn't score the fight while I was watching it, but I thought it was a close fight either way. It wasn't a Campillo-Cloud, Rios-Abril type of decision to me. That's just me. I thought Bradley out-hustled Provodnikov in many of the middle rounds, but Provodnikov started strong, and closed strong.
Completely agreed because campillo cloud was just one of those fights where I don't see how a reasonable non biased person could have it for cloud. This on the other hand I could see having either guy be the winner, and a draw perhaps would have been most fair. Hopefully provo can get a few name fights of this and isn't relegated back to fnfs
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
I was going to say that Max is the last bastion of objectivity on the broadcasts but unfortunately in order to listen to him I have to listen to Lapdog and hired guests. I could not believe Roy. Never heard that kind of bias from him before.
Love Roy as a boxer, but he was absolutely terrible as a commentator last night. Cheer leading for Bradley the whole way and pompously comparing his heart to his own courage in the ring. It was nice to see Bradley get dropped at the end and shut Roy up. He was imagining punches hurting Provodnikov "really bad" when they weren't doing all that much damage.
I've never been a fan of RJJ, either as a human being, boxer or an announcer, that's just the way it is, I almost always mute the sound when he's calling a fight on HBO.
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
I was going to say that Max is the last bastion of objectivity on the broadcasts but unfortunately in order to listen to him I have to listen to Lapdog and hired guests. I could not believe Roy. Never heard that kind of bias from him before.
Love Roy as a boxer, but he was absolutely terrible as a commentator last night. Cheer leading for Bradley the whole way and pompously comparing his heart to his own courage in the ring. It was nice to see Bradley get dropped at the end and shut Roy up. He was imagining punches hurting Provodnikov "really bad" when they weren't doing all that much damage.
I've never been a fan of RJJ, either as a human being, boxer or an announcer, that's just the way it is, I almost always mute the sound when he's calling a fight on HBO.
Whats not to like ? He was an amazing fighter and is a nice man.
Shit commentator last night though. ;D
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I had to turn it off by I think by rd 4 or 5. Lapdog and crew were firmly attached to Timmy's nut sack. The ref was even looking for a way to get Timmy out of it the freakin hack.
Kellerman was the one calling Lamps and Jones on it throughout. He tried to reel them in as they were all over Bradley.
How anyone scored the 11th Bradley is a mystery to me.
I was going to say that Max is the last bastion of objectivity on the broadcasts but unfortunately in order to listen to him I have to listen to Lapdog and hired guests. I could not believe Roy. Never heard that kind of bias from him before.
Love Roy as a boxer, but he was absolutely terrible as a commentator last night. Cheer leading for Bradley the whole way and pompously comparing his heart to his own courage in the ring. It was nice to see Bradley get dropped at the end and shut Roy up. He was imagining punches hurting Provodnikov "really bad" when they weren't doing all that much damage.
I've never been a fan of RJJ, either as a human being, boxer or an announcer, that's just the way it is, I almost always mute the sound when he's calling a fight on HBO.
Whats not to like ? He was an amazing fighter and is a nice man.
Shit commentator last night though. ;D
Just never have cared for the dude, my favorite RJJ fights were the 1st Tarver fight and when he got destroyed by Glenn Johnson. As for his announcing, the first go round with HBO was the RJJ appreciation show, with Lampley and Merchant taking turns telling him how fucking great he was and sticking their nose up his, egotistical, game cock fighting, rapper ass.
Since he's come back to HBO the 2nd time, I just can't take the shit that dribbles out of his mouth, I feel pretty sure that he gave Bradley a blow job after the fight last night, the way he was hanging on his nuts. (Lampley too)
Hey, you asked @Hulk
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
I saw 2 KD's in the fight, but certainly not 3. I wouldn't give the second round 10-8 either as Bradley was fighting back and you don't give 10-8 rounds unless there is a knockdown or there is practically nothing coming back AND being hurt. Where do you draw the line? 10-8 Bradley round 3 as nothing was coming back from Provodnikov? No point in that, so I don't give 10-8's easily. So one KD and a few points margin Bradley or even with two and just a close fight with a puncher getting outworked in most of the rounds.
Bradley fought like a plank though and draw would have been a lesson well taught and a definite rematch. I thought Bradley won though and fair enough to those who disagree as the KD should have been scored and that final round was another 2 points banked. Two 10-8 rounds and some potential swing rounds does create questions regarding how you are scoring and appraising rounds.
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Re: Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Ruslan Provodnikov - Saturday night fight/chat thread
Jones was reduced to silence and laugh in the 11th when Kellerman called him on "No Max hes not feeling these punches at all. They are only hitting the top of Tims head and not connecting on his chin so hes really not hurt"...Max basically shut him down off that
114-113 still after replay. Round 6th was this fight in a nut shell. Quality over quantity.