I said Crawford tko 11 was quicker than I thought, Terrence is a great fighter , spence is a good good fighter.
Crawford like many greats when on the inside he is so relaxed with his own skills to not get hit.
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I said Crawford tko 11 was quicker than I thought, Terrence is a great fighter , spence is a good good fighter.
Crawford like many greats when on the inside he is so relaxed with his own skills to not get hit.
Crawford was 40%.
He wasn’t even sweating.
He can still fight for 2 more years.
All the more reason to hate Canelo, because Bud vs Charlo for all the belts at 154 would make so much sense. And Canelo vs Mell makes no sense at all
Damn. That was impressive. I NEVER thought it would be so one sided, that Bud would win the battle of the jabs, that Bud would be more effective to the body, and/or that this fight would end by stoppage. Best performance against a top fighter in decades. That was a brilliant/flawless performance by Bud. I thought Spence would be a little too big, so the other thing I NEVER expected to see what Bud manhandle him like that. Bud is a special fighter.
One of the most impressive displays i have ever seen in a major fight between two champions. Crawford was totally dominant, i'm not sure what Spence could do that would alter the result a second time. Well done Terence Crawford, that was a super effort.
man that guy can fight.
Just watched it. Wasn't expecting such a comprehensive win either way.
Fair play to spence he went for it but Crawford was a class apart.
Timing is everything. Especially in boxing. It dictates not just when, but how much power you have when you do the work of throwing punches and how much power you can take away from your opponent by leaving him no time or space to work in. Crawford dictated last night's fight with the kind of timing that makes very, very good fighters like Spence look ordinary.
I have to admit, I was a little bit sceptical of just how good Terence Crawford was, but last night's contest erased those doubts. Of course, it would be foolish to judge a fighter on one fight, but when you make a fellow P4P fighter look like a novice for long periods in a contest with this much at stake, it is hard to deny the quality of Crawford.
Spence can still have some great contests but you have to admit that even if he triggers the rematch clause there is very little he can do to disrupt the timing of a man who established such a hurtful and efficient metronome in not only beating Spence to the punch, but setting him up with combinations and traps that left Spence no time to adjust his own tempo or the angle of his own feints and punches.
Who didn't see that coming? I thought Spence's corner was going to stop the fight but the ref did his job last night. Kudos to both men on a great and memorable fight...
What else can Crawford do now? he's beaten everyone except Thurman. But do we really want to or NEED to see Crawford v Thurman?
Forget Thurman he was finished years ago.
Crawford jump up to face Charlo/Tszyu, or against a young undefeated prospect like Ennis would be a challenge.
He stops Ennis earlier than Spence. Charlo may be too big for him. He could stop Tszyu too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What Crawford did when he came to Scotland to take Burns title was the first place to look if any in depth research needed on his pedigree , and look at how he always turns up. Perhaps he wasn't easy to promote, and/or identified as too risky/low reward and to be avoided.
Boxing Wave has been putting out videos reflecting on Social Media view on crawford pre/post fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E4a4v9tMTU
Same type of Jabs that hurt Kell BrookQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Here's what Terence Crawford said about a big moment in his career winning a title for the first time
https://youtu.be/mfmXN6X8HPI?t=1187
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TERMINATED
Al Haymon knew Spence's run was over as soon as the fight was signed. That's why he did everything in his power to not make it happen. But the time finally came to sacrifice his warrior. PBC almost succeeded in ageing out and black balling one of the great talents in boxing.
Every time a PBC fighter steps up and fights a top guy that's not in-house ? They get stomped. Wilder/Fury, Fulton/Inoue, Plant/Canelo, Porter/Crawford and now Spence vs Crawford.
Boxing fans will be waiting a long time if they think Tank will fight Shakur/Haney/Teo or Loma anytime soon
Enjoy Tank vs Pibtull Cruz II and then Tank vs Rolly II or even Tank vs Chris Colbert.
Errol should get checked out, rest a bunch. In his post fight interview he was giving me end of career Jermaine Taylor vibes. He always comes across like he's stoned out of his mind but the whites of his eyes were yellow/gray. He looked sick.
An independent and thorough neurological evaluation should be a prerequisite. If Spence fails it, he should lose his license.
If he does wanna fight on, then spend the next year quiet with his gym sessions closed to the public with the door shut, working a lot on head movement, and not being so heavy on his feet and legs, shorten his stance a little bit, tighten up his defensive skills. But even if he does all this, he still may not be able to beat Bud in the future. And I think this would've happened pre Errol's car accident and Bud’s in the big fish frying business.
The only thing Errol had going for him was his volume, which came from lacking any real pop in his punches. Basically a heavyweight Joe Joyce. He's TOO front foot heavy, which puts him in harm's for a brutal KO far more than the average fighter. That's why Bud's hand speed and countering were a problem
As for Crawford ? if Bud wasn't boxing I think he would have been a serial killer. That man has one emotionless face.
He rarely ever lets a chance go by to punish his opponent. Most fighters have controversial wins, Bud doesn't
And just to be clear on Bud's performance
Errol Spence was an undefeated world champ who held 3 out of the 4 main belts. He has never been knocked down or even cut. But by the end he looked like he'd been bummed by a grizzly bear.
I reckon Byrd and CJ Ross had it even at the time of the stoppage.
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I just want to add it's hard to not like Bud Crawford. The Mayweather and Broner flash have their place, but Bud's a guy who doesn't talk about the women's he's fked. All his six kids are to one women and his wife isnt some super hot insta thot. Just his childhood sweet Alindra Pearson.
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He does not talk about the cars he drives, the money he has, the mansion he lives in, doesn't live the wild high life, does not crave attention and the mic like an Eddie Hearn or Don King or Tyson Fury. Just a down to earth humble guy who has not let the fame go to his head
I can't remember an elite level unification/undefeated fighter matchup that turned out so one sided since Don Curry blitzed Milton McCrory.
Spence is (or was?) a genuinely world class fighter with a great and proven pedigree. After the first round, he just couldn't do anything at all to trouble Crawford. he tried a few things and was just getting dissected each and every time. Spence wins fight via his jab and pressure and Bud just took them away from him effortlessly.
props and respect to both guys for taking the matchup, for not doing any stupid Fury style antics beforehand, for fighting clean (especially Spence who must have been running out of ideas early on) .... and for both being so respectful about each other afterwards. Classy from both guys.
You might have been onto something here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuzo
That was probably the most impressive beatdown I've ever seen. Crawford did pretty much exactly what he wanted when he wanted. It was a masterclass. Spence was brave and gave everything he could, but he was hopelessly out of his depth. He got mauled. Spence was worrying me before a bell was rung. He just looks fucked up the whole time. When they were in the ring, the commentary team asked who looks the most relaxed. Spence looked like he'd just woken up on a park bench. A weird smirk on his face like he'd woken up to a surprise half full bottle of liquor. He had a strange demeanor the whole fight. I guess having the ever loving shit beat out of you will do that. He just looks all sorts of wrong to me.
Before the fight in the dressing room Spence was the same being interviewed. He was "spaced" out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Just to be clear, we do know that this would have been the same result even before the Spence car accident, right? Crawford is just the better fighter, as was Fury over Wilder.
one-sided masterclass
I'm happy for Crawford
Spence had no answers
Bring on Stanionis or Ennis next
Terence Crawford's magnificent victory over Errol Spence has proved to be a financial success.
The long-awaited super fight delivered in the ring with Crawford producing a brilliant performance.
And it appears to have also delivered from a business perspective.
According to American journalist Dan Rafael, the fight did at least 650,000 USA PPV buys.
Priced at $85 on Showtime, this means it generated upwards of $55million in revenue from PPV money alone.
It's also been reported that the gate revenue (money from ticket sales) for the fight in Las Vegas surpassed $21million.
When all is said and done, Spence and Crawford will reportedly each earn purses upwards of $25million.
Boxing supporters reacted positively to this news, indicating the success of an event which showcased the best fighting the best.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...rd-purses-ppv/
is that a worse excuse than deontay's costume?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkNFXrfrMY
I hate this line of commentary from Spence fans because he got his ass handed to him. Spence lost, fair and square... This is just embarrassing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
The epilogue episode was very good. First time I have seen that type of episode, normally it is all pre-fight hype but this was very well made and really informative.
Crawford was calm throughout the event and calculated during the fight. Whereas Spence looked lethargic, probably from being weight drained and staying at the weight too long.
Crawford goading Charlo was interesting to see and shows how easy he found the bout. Terence must have been pleasantly surprised at how easy the fight was for him.
I watched it too. Showtime is putting up HBO type content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That was funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI hate this line of commentary from Spence fans because he got his ass handed to him. Spence lost, fair and square... This is just embarrassing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
The best excuse I heard was
Spence lost because he didn't get a haircut
He never lost with the buzz cut :D
Spence fans are quite the spectacle of shame. I am shocked by how hard they are taking this. lolol... There are scores of videos on YouTube explaining everything from the car crash to Crawford having loaded gloves. Quite shameful stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big JThat was funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI hate this line of commentary from Spence fans because he got his ass handed to him. Spence lost, fair and square... This is just embarrassing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
The best excuse I heard was
Spence lost because he didn't get a haircut
He never lost with the buzz cut :D
Terence Crawford is well aware of the viral clip of Gervonta Davis vowing to put "Bud" to sleep if the two ever fight at 147 pounds.
To that, the newly-crowned welterweight champion of the world believes "Tank" should tread lightly.
"Well, he's just talking. He's got the confidence in himself that he believes he can do that, because he's been knocking all these fighters out that he's been in the ring with," Crawford began explaining on "The Breakfast Club" on Thursday.
"No knock to 'Tank,' but there's definitely levels and if he comes up to 147 and he's thinking he's just going to knock Terence Crawford out, he's got another thing coming."
Crawford did confirm that he'd be willing to stay at welterweight a little longer just to wait for Davis, who would be moving up from 135 pounds, as a "Bud" vs. "Tank" bout would be a "big money fight."
But he's not so sure that it would benefit him legacy-wise.
"And then what?" Crawford added, referring to if he'd beat Davis. "Everybody's gonna say he was too small. Nobody gonna give me credit. They're gonna say 'oh man, you beat up a little guy that fights at 135.'"
"What kind of recognition am I gonna get for beating up on 'Tank'?"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...7236155&ei=165
This stuff with guys talking about hoping divisions like they were afterthoughts and normal is really getting silly. In 24 hours so many run with Bud going everywhere from Canelo to Tank :cwm13:. Tank has zero, zip, nata business chumming a 147 fight with a man who is looking completely North at 154. Fans need to stop being so friggin gullible and easy ;D. The man would be as wide as he is tall ffs!
Lesson learned with Jermell who basically jumped at the first lotto for a fight he’ll likely lose, physically and title wise, and managed to delay if not entirely prevent a perfectly natural mega fight with now p4p fully unified Crawford coming to his house.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Inoue vs Fury speculations at some catchweight can't be far off.
Some "fans" aren't satisfied with good, solid matchups between fighters within the same weight division... (or at least the traditionally accepted move up or down of one division).
That's too boring.
if terence is going to stay at welter, jaron or eimantas should be next. if he's going to fifty four he should be able to use his wbo belt to become mandatory to timmy
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08...rawford-again/
"Breaking: Errol Spence Activates Rematch Clause To Fight Terence Crawford Again"
Ok. So now that Spence has regained his senses, he has decided to activate the rematch clause, probably at 154. Makes sense, and comes as no surprise. Tough to ask Spence to stay with that beatdown as the one and only memory of him vs. Crawford. He probably feels he can at least be more competitive this time around. Although Bud would probably beat him decisively again... a rematch at 154 would make for a compelling fight. But there are more positives about this which have nothing to do with Spence. Forcing a rematch with Crawford will at least for now take Canelo off the radar. Crawford vs Canelo is just BAD for boxing. Not that Canelo and his team would give a shit about that... but it would be bad. Circus bad.
jaron ennis is now the full ibf welterweight champion. not sure if terence vacanted or was stripped. probably means terence won't be fighting at welter again
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-h3Cfsa...g&name=900x900
ibf stripped himQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Welterweight star Terence 'Bud' Crawford is no longer the division's undisputed champion after he was stripped of the IBF championship.
Crawford was stripped of the belt due to his inability to compete in a mandatory title defense against Jaron 'Boots' Ennis because of the rematch clause from his fight against Errol Spence Jr. It means Ennis is elevated from interim champion to full titleholder.
'Bud' dominated rival Spence on July 29 to claim all four welterweight belts but the contract allowed the loser to activate a rematch clause.
'On August 25, the IBF sent a letter to TBC Promotions directing Terence Crawford to begin negotiations with interim Champion Jaron Ennis,' an IBF spokesperson told BoxingScene.com.
'Negotiations were to be concluded by September 24.
'On September 22, the IBF received an email from Harrison Whitman representing Crawford indicating that the agreement for the Spence vs. Crawford bout contains an immediate rematch provision which Errol Spence has exercised.
'As such, Terrence Crawford is unable to engage in negotiations with Jaron Ennis.'
Sanctioning bodies do not generally consider rematch clauses to be a justifiable reason for avoiding mandatory defenses. The IBF's rule 3.B specially prohibits the practice.
'No contract for a Championship contest shall contain any clause or any provision, whatsoever, guaranteeing or in any way assuring or promising either contestant a return Championship contest where such clause or provision interferes with the mandatory defense of a title.
'Based on the forgoing, the IBF has withdrawn recognition of Terence Crawford as the IBF Welterweight world champion,' confirmed the IBF.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...1fd80263&ei=75
Another example of it honestly being pretty much a foregone conclusion, a matter of time knowing the rematch was contracted. It's why I'm always skeptical now when I hear "undisputed" as really it seems to be the last thing the alphabet boyz want. You just sit there waiting for the undisputed to splinter afterwards. It's enough to leave your head spinning. Crazy times right now. On one hand we have "champs" allowed to hibernate on their belt and use them as pillows for years all the while paying step aside fees to some mandatories. Or worse just having a sanctioning body green light and enable the indifference and ignoring a champ's obligations. Then you have Crawford who faced the top threat and vanquished him. But did so knowing Ennis sat as interim champ and mandatory was on deck with the ibf enforcing the rule. Spence rematch in hindsight is now a match very few actually want. Or 'need'. While when you take favoritism out of the equation (good luck today), a Boots vs Crawford showdown is exactly what fans want and should demand. An "undisputed" champion taking on ALL top contenders especially when they are literally a co-champion of sorts. Tough spot. It's definitely politics to a large degree but it's also not unpredictable. Also it's tarnishing Boots who is now receiving a title with the ease of sitting down to take ownership of a new car. Who wants that? Ala Haney, or even Tszyu though circumstances different as Charlo literally avoided his undisputed champions obligation. To "get paid". And how'd that work out. Feels like the strip needed its own thread ;D. But fighters make decisions and move the pieces on the board accordingly. And also, and most importantly...fans overrate and fawn over shiny trinkets much too easily.
same thing will probably happen if tyson & oleksandr fight with a rematch clause
For Filip and Zhang? Ones already beaten the horse about not stepping aside but looked horrible. Zhang want's all the heat. Beginning to think that clauses need to come with clauses in some cases :-X. Like maybe manner of victory etc. Much of this feels like a fighter's statement of intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
They put Mario Barrios in the same interim boat at 147. It wouldn't shock me at this point.