Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

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Originally Posted by miles

Marquez has a totally different style to Hatton, so I can't see Hatton becoming that kind of back foot, counter puncher. I don't expect anything "new" from Hatton as such, but I am expecting the basics to have been cranked back up. He will pressure Manny hard, but have all the fundamentals working. Jab, movement, combinations. Hatton isn't going to win by outboxing Pac, he will win by making things too hot to handle and by putting the hurt on. Manny is quick but he is VERY hittable, when hurt Manny might try to fight fire with fire, but Hatton will have imposed his will if that happens, and Manny will get beaten up. You can't run from Hatton unless you are Mayweather, and you can't stay close because Hatton will rough you up. Manny cannot pretend that Hatton is Diaz or Oscar. Hatton is no slouch, he will catch Manny a lot and hit him like never before.

Pac is going to get the beating of his life IMO, not the other way round.

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Hatton can't win by outboxing PAC, we all agree on this one...;)

As of late, PAC came out from fights totally unmarked unlike Hatton where Lazcano and Paulie were able to mark his face... JMM, Barrera and Morales did land some good ones on PAC but it didn't really resulted to major trouble and PAC was able to retaliate throwing his one bombs...

PAC loves fighting toe-to-toe, he has the advantage in this situation since he possess the quicker hands...

Hatton is just like a little faster and little bigger David Diaz... and Hatton will receive a similar beating that David received from PAC...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by miles

Marquez has a totally different style to Hatton, so I can't see Hatton becoming that kind of back foot, counter puncher. I don't expect anything "new" from Hatton as such, but I am expecting the basics to have been cranked back up. He will pressure Manny hard, but have all the fundamentals working. Jab, movement, combinations. Hatton isn't going to win by outboxing Pac, he will win by making things too hot to handle and by putting the hurt on. Manny is quick but he is VERY hittable, when hurt Manny might try to fight fire with fire, but Hatton will have imposed his will if that happens, and Manny will get beaten up. You can't run from Hatton unless you are Mayweather, and you can't stay close because Hatton will rough you up. Manny cannot pretend that Hatton is Diaz or Oscar. Hatton is no slouch, he will catch Manny a lot and hit him like never before.

Pac is going to get the beating of his life IMO, not the other way round.

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Hatton can't win by outboxing PAC, we all agree on this one...;)

As of late, PAC came out from fights totally unmarked unlike Hatton where Lazcano and Paulie were able to mark his face... JMM, Barrera and Morales did land some good ones on PAC but it didn't really resulted to major trouble and PAC was able to retaliate throwing his one bombs...

PAC loves fighting toe-to-toe, he has the advantage in this situation since he possess the quicker hands...

Hatton is just like a little faster and little bigger David Diaz... and Hatton will receive a similar beating that David received from PAC...
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that's how i see it too. hatton, a bigger and faster diaz. ricky will have his chances in the early rounds, he has to get his licks in early otherwise he'll suffer a similar beating.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by miles

Marquez has a totally different style to Hatton, so I can't see Hatton becoming that kind of back foot, counter puncher. I don't expect anything "new" from Hatton as such, but I am expecting the basics to have been cranked back up. He will pressure Manny hard, but have all the fundamentals working. Jab, movement, combinations. Hatton isn't going to win by outboxing Pac, he will win by making things too hot to handle and by putting the hurt on. Manny is quick but he is VERY hittable, when hurt Manny might try to fight fire with fire, but Hatton will have imposed his will if that happens, and Manny will get beaten up. You can't run from Hatton unless you are Mayweather, and you can't stay close because Hatton will rough you up. Manny cannot pretend that Hatton is Diaz or Oscar. Hatton is no slouch, he will catch Manny a lot and hit him like never before.

Pac is going to get the beating of his life IMO, not the other way round.

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Hatton can't win by outboxing PAC, we all agree on this one...;)

As of late, PAC came out from fights totally unmarked unlike Hatton where Lazcano and Paulie were able to mark his face... JMM, Barrera and Morales did land some good ones on PAC but it didn't really resulted to major trouble and PAC was able to retaliate throwing his one bombs...

PAC loves fighting toe-to-toe, he has the advantage in this situation since he possess the quicker hands...

Hatton is just like a little faster and little bigger David Diaz... and Hatton will receive a similar beating that David received from PAC...
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I don't think he is at all. :rolleyes:

Hatton is significantly better than Diaz in all areas. Diaz is totally one dimensional and can only fight one way, and even that is extremely limited. To describe Hatton in that way makes me think you are misreading this fight big time. And once again disregarding the qualities that Hatton has. The fight will not be like Diaz: Pac, you are going to be sorely dissapointed if that's what you think you are getting. :)

And I would be very happy if Roach and co. are simply preparing themselves for a bigger version of Diaz because it is most definitely NOT what they are going to be facing come May 2nd.

Rumour coming for Pac's camp is that he can't move around the ring due the enormous amount of swelling around his Gonads from the excesive amount of nuthugging he has recieved :lickish:

On a serious note, can anyone tell me what time the fight is shedule for UK time, I need to work out where and when I can go an see it.Given that Australia is so far ahead does that mean the fight will be over before it's started:confused:

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Originally Posted by jamiebhoy

Rumour coming for Pac's camp is that he can't move around the ring due the enormous amount of swelling around his Gonads from the excesive amount of nuthugging he has recieved :lickish:

On a serious note, can anyone tell me what time the fight is shedule for UK time, I need to work out where and when I can go an see it.Given that Australia is so far ahead does that mean the fight will be over before it's started:confused:

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Whereabouts are you in Oz?

Central Coast NSW, about an Hr and half outside Sydney

"Arum believes his man is better in all departments than he was six months ago when he beat De La Hoya.

"He is faster, he’s smarter and he has all of the attributes,” Arum said.

“What’s Manny’s strength? Its his speed. So if he fights the fight capitalizing on his strength which is his speed there is no way Hatton can beat him."

Arum claims that Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler told him that he is handling sparring partners Urbano Antillon, Mike Alvarado and Raymund Serrano (no mention of Amir Khan) "like babies."

Arum went on: “You now can't see his hands, he is so fast.
"He throws them so quickly you can’t see the punches"

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Originally Posted by jamiebhoy

Central Coast NSW, about an Hr and half outside Sydney

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Ok it should be on sometime between 1 & 3 in the afternoon your time on May 3. Not sure exactly what time they will come out for their fight, but it will definitely be around that time I think.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

"Arum believes his man is better in all departments than he was six months ago when he beat De La Hoya.

"He is faster, he’s smarter and he has all of the attributes,” Arum said.

“What’s Manny’s strength? Its his speed. So if he fights the fight capitalizing on his strength which is his speed there is no way Hatton can beat him."

Arum claims that Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler told him that he is handling sparring partners Urbano Antillon, Mike Alvarado and Raymund Serrano (no mention of Amir Khan) "like babies."

Arum went on: “You now can't see his hands, he is so fast.
"He throws them so quickly you can’t see the punches"

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Antillon
Alvarado
Serrano

It would be a sad situation if Pac wasn't able to handle himself against these monsters.

Pac's camp is talk, talk, talk. Arum is a promoter, anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt too.

Hattons camp, quiet and determined. That's how a camp should be.

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Originally Posted by jamiebhoy

Central Coast NSW, about an Hr and half outside Sydney

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Ok it should be on sometime between 1 & 3 in the afternoon your time on May 3. Not sure exactly what time they will come out for their fight, but it will definitely be around that time I think.

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Legend ! Cheers for that mate, my birthday on the 2nd so hoping Hatton can deliver a nice pressie for me !!

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

"Arum believes his man is better in all departments than he was six months ago when he beat De La Hoya.

"He is faster, he’s smarter and he has all of the attributes,” Arum said.

“What’s Manny’s strength? Its his speed. So if he fights the fight capitalizing on his strength which is his speed there is no way Hatton can beat him."

Arum claims that Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler told him that he is handling sparring partners Urbano Antillon, Mike Alvarado and Raymund Serrano (no mention of Amir Khan) "like babies."

Arum went on: “You now can't see his hands, he is so fast.
"He throws them so quickly you can’t see the punches"

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Antillon
Alvarado
Serrano

It would be a sad situation if Pac wasn't able to handle himself against these monsters.

Pac's camp is talk, talk, talk. Arum is a promoter, anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt too.

Hattons camp, quiet and determined. That's how a camp should be.

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Lara
Cornelius Lock
3 other southpaw boxers

It's so sad Hatton can't handle these southpaw boxers in sparring... These sparring partners gave Hatton blackeyes... not one blackeye but blackeyes (both eyes)...

We all knew PAC has an intense and determined training camp... but you know news leaked out...

Hatton might be trembling right now... He might be even thinking of faking an injury... j/k ;D
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

"Arum believes his man is better in all departments than he was six months ago when he beat De La Hoya.

"He is faster, he’s smarter and he has all of the attributes,” Arum said.

“What’s Manny’s strength? Its his speed. So if he fights the fight capitalizing on his strength which is his speed there is no way Hatton can beat him."

Arum claims that Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler told him that he is handling sparring partners Urbano Antillon, Mike Alvarado and Raymund Serrano (no mention of Amir Khan) "like babies."

Arum went on: “You now can't see his hands, he is so fast.
"He throws them so quickly you can’t see the punches"

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Antillon
Alvarado
Serrano

It would be a sad situation if Pac wasn't able to handle himself against these monsters.

Pac's camp is talk, talk, talk. Arum is a promoter, anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt too.

Hattons camp, quiet and determined. That's how a camp should be.

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Lara
Cornelius Lock
3 other southpaw boxers

It's so sad Hatton can't handle these southpaw boxers in sparring... These sparring partners gave Hatton blackeyes... not one blackeye but blackeyes (both eyes)...

We all knew PAC has an intense and determined training camp... but you know news leaked out...

Hatton might be trembling right now... He might be even thinking of faking an injury... j/k ;D
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Hatton speaking from his diary entries over on the Hatton forum:

April 13th: "Sparring again, with Marvin, Cornelious and a new kid, Daniel Mitchell. The rounds are increasing now and I am happy with the pace. My weight is spot on and my fitness is great".

April 15th: "More sparring and I have to say, I was very pleased with today's workout. I really feel that everything is coming together at the right time."

He might have had a couple of bruises when he opened his sparring, but according to Hatton he is getting into the swing of things and competing well. No disrespectful rubbish about knocking down sparring partners or making them look like babies! One camp is full of hype and willing to perform for cameras, the other just does the hard work.

Nothing "leaks" form Pacs camp, it all comes out with a firm agenda. And it's feeble, it really is. Roach's usual pre fight gift of a t shirt and some vitamin pills for weight loss. Sorry, but it reeks of desperation and clearly hasn't had any impact. Hatton is bang on the weight and is looking fantastic, perhaps Roach should have found something more relevant to bring up.

Do you really think Hatton is trembling at the thought of having to fight little pocket rocket, Manny Pac? He took on Tszyu, Castillo and Mayweather and he's trembling at the prospect of taking on Manny pac? Don't make me laugh. Pac is cashing out with the weight attacks and going for big names. He got lucky with Oscar, lightning isn't going to strike twice! ;D

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by miles

Antillon
Alvarado
Serrano

It would be a sad situation if Pac wasn't able to handle himself against these monsters.

Pac's camp is talk, talk, talk. Arum is a promoter, anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt too.

Hattons camp, quiet and determined. That's how a camp should be.

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Lara
Cornelius Lock
3 other southpaw boxers

It's so sad Hatton can't handle these southpaw boxers in sparring... These sparring partners gave Hatton blackeyes... not one blackeye but blackeyes (both eyes)...

We all knew PAC has an intense and determined training camp... but you know news leaked out...

Hatton might be trembling right now... He might be even thinking of faking an injury... j/k ;D
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Hatton speaking from his diary entries over on the Hatton forum:

April 13th: "Sparring again, with Marvin, Cornelious and a new kid, Daniel Mitchell. The rounds are increasing now and I am happy with the pace. My weight is spot on and my fitness is great".

April 15th: "More sparring and I have to say, I was very pleased with today's workout. I really feel that everything is coming together at the right time."

He might have had a couple of bruises when he opened his sparring, but according to Hatton he is getting into the swing of things and competing well. No disrespectful rubbish about knocking down sparring partners or making them look like babies! One camp is full of hype and willing to perform for cameras, the other just does the hard work.

Nothing "leaks" form Pacs camp, it all comes out with a firm agenda. And it's feeble, it really is. Roach's usual pre fight gift of a t shirt and some vitamin pills for weight loss. Sorry, but it reeks of desperation and clearly hasn't had any impact. Hatton is bang on the weight and is looking fantastic, perhaps Roach should have found something more relevant to bring up.

Do you really think Hatton is trembling at the thought of having to fight little pocket rocket, Manny Pac? He took on Tszyu, Castillo and Mayweather and he's trembling at the prospect of taking on Manny pac? Don't make me laugh. Pac is cashing out with the weight attacks and going for big names. He got lucky with Oscar, lightning isn't going to strike twice! ;D

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I've read that diary entry 3 days back I think... ;)

Hatton getting surprised and bruised the first time he sparred with these southpaw sparring partners... Hatton will be surprised and bruised again when he will face PAC inside that ring but what worse during fight night, the beatings happens so fast and Hatton has no more time to adjust... Like many PAC opponents, Hatton will eventually be KO'ed...

Good that you had a laugh on my "trembling" joke... ;)

Seriously...
-Tszyu was already a 36 year old grandpa when Hatton faced him...
-Castillo was already a shot fighter...
-PBF Jr.? haha ;D no one is afraid of PBF Jr. (it's usually the other way around ;D )... PBF just usually potshots opponents going for a comfortable UD win... I was really surprised when the light hitting PBF was able to slammed Hatton to the ringpost and KO'ed him...
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It's all getting very lively now that we only have a couple of weeks to go! ;D

You can say that Kostya and Castillo were old, which is true. But let's not forget that Manny's biggest wins have come against older fighters who have been reaching the end too. Oscar and Morales were no spring chickens and had been in a lot of fights too. Oscar was a dead man at the weight. Hatton has been doing this for a long time against big fighters and walked through everything at 140. Pac has been in lower divisions and met his match in Morales and Marquez. If I recall correctly, Morales like Oscar, killed himself to make weight for that final fight. Shot and famished too. :-\

The very fact that you are making a mockery of Mayweather, the most skilled fighter of our generation shows you up too. I can't stand Mayweather, but you have to admire what he can do, just from the boxing fan viewpoint.

Pac might have some fast hands and an awkward stance, but can Pac hit and move against Hatton for 12 without getting caught and roughed up? Of course he can't. Pac is not a big man, and he isn't a defensive wizard. Once the first big one lands, Pac will be having second thoughts and doing an awful lot of that making the sign of the cross business between rounds. Pac doesn't belong in this weight class and it's time for the delusion to stop. Pac is great at what he does, but he's out of his league with this one. There's no shame in losing though, as he will put up a valiant fight.

I have said it a few times , Pac is great at what he does and what he is good at which is coming forward. However as Miles points out he is no defensive genius, whenever he is on the back foot he just doesn't look that special. there's no real power and he just waits for the assualt to end, big question is can he work off the back foot with someone like Hatton pressing him constantly.