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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Can you remember what you were saying about Flynn a couple of weeks ago? It's fallen off your little shelf, hasn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...01#post1501901
A couple of weeks ago he was innocent, now you're complaining that he wasn't told that lying to the FBI is a crime. Once again Lyle this is a plea bargain. Flynn has pled guilty to one sample charge and cooperated with Mueller to avoid a whole bunch of other charges. He's given Mueller and other prosecutors nineteen separate interviews about Trump and his dealing swith him, probably over a hundred hours of testimony, and also handed over thousands of documents. With all that cooperation he should avoid jail time.
Flynn, Cohen, Manafort, Gates and all the other cooperators are suddenly the least of Trump's worries though. Now he's going to be investigated by the New York state AG. Trump can't pardon himself or be pardoned for any state crimes they may turn up. Seeing as literally every fucking person around Trump is a criminal it's basically a matter of time till the indictments start piling up. The minute Trump leaves office he's going to be facing a whole raft of criminal charges that he can't dodge:
New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Donald Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law once she settles into her new job next month.
"We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected last month.
James outlined some of the probes she intends to pursue with regard to the president, his businesses and his family members. They include:
- Any potential illegalities involving Trump's real estate holdings in New York, highlighting a New York Times investigation published in October into the president's finances.
- The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian official.
- Examine government subsidies Trump received, which were also the subject of Times investigative work.
- Whether he is in violation of the emoluments clause in the U.S. Constitution through his New York businesses.
- Continue to probe the Trump Foundation.
"We want to investigate anyone in his orbit who has, in fact, violated the law," said James, who was endorsed by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
James campaigned on passing a bill to change New York's double jeopardy laws with an eye on possible pardons coming out of the White House. James told NBC News she wants to be able to pursue state charges against anyone the president were to pardon over federal charges or convictions and whose alleged crimes took place in the state. Under current New York law, she might not be able to do that.
"I think within the first 100 days this bill will be passed," she said, adding, "It is a priority because I have concerns with respect to the possibility that this administration might pardon some individuals who might face some criminal charges, but I do not want them to be immune from state charges."
She's also enlisting help from some prosecutorial heavy hitters, like former U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, as a part of her transition to help her identify important hires for her office with an eye on bringing in experts for its Trump-related investigations.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newsc....fit-2000w.jpg
New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James, who takes office next month and is planning extensive probes of President Donald Trump and his family members.
OK so Kirkland is fine with the FBI attempting to railroad someone for this crazy conspiracy that the Russians won the election for Trump....fine.
I wish you and Letitia James all the best of luck.
Clinton Whistleblowers: Thursday’s Public Hearing to Reveal “Explosive” Information
https://saraacarter.com/clinton-whis...e-information/
A trove of documents on the Clinton Foundation alleging possible pay for play and tax evasion have been turned over to the FBI and IRS by several investigative whistleblowers, who will be testifying in an open hearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Thursday, according to the committee and lawmakers.
Roughly 6,000 documents that are expected to reveal the nearly two year investigation by the whistleblowers with a private firm called MDA Analytics LLC, which allegedly turned over the documents more than a year and half ago to the IRS, according to John Solomon, who first published the report last week in The Hill.
The whistleblowers are former federal criminal investigators, who allege that the Clinton Foundation was “engaged in illegal activities and may be liable for millions of dollars in delinquent taxes and penalties,” according to Solomon.
The Department of Justice and the FBI’s Little Rock, Ark. field office, which is believed to be investigating the foundation, have allegedly obtained the documentation from the whistleblowers as well, according to lawmakers who’ve spoken with the whistleblowers.
Clinton Foundation officials could not be immediately reached for comment
However, a former whistleblower, who has spoke with agents from the Little Rock FBI field office last year and worked for years as an undercover informant collecting information on Russia’s nuclear energy industry for the bureau, noted his enormous frustration with the DOJ and FBI. He describes as a two-tiered justice system that failed to actively investigate the information he provided years ago on the Clinton Foundation and Russia’s dangerous meddling with the U.S. nuclear industry and energy industry during the Obama administration.
William D. Campbell’s story was first published by this reporter in 2017. He turned over more than 5,000 documents and detailed daily briefs to the bureau when he served as a confidential informant reporting on Russia’s nuclear giant Rosatom. Campbell worked as an energy consultant, gaining the trust of Russians and providing significant insight into Russia’s strategic plans to gain global dominance in the uranium industry. He reported on Russian’s intentions to build a closer relationship with Obama administration officials, to include then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as reported. The documents he turned over to the DOJ, which were reviewed by this news site, showed Campbell had also provided highly sensitive information both related to the uranium case, as well as other intelligence matters, since 2006.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller was the director of the FBI at the time Campbell was a confidential informant and according to Campbell the information was briefed to Mueller by his FBI handlers.
“(Mueller) received the documents, copies of which I still have, over a period of years and ignored a national security threat to the United States because of his political preference,” said Campbell, who said he is frustrated that the investigation into the Clinton Foundation and the other information he provided was apparently ignored years ago.
“These men were in charge of transport of nuclear materials (inside the United States) while committing criminal activity here in the United States and signing major US utility contracts,” said Campbell, referring to the information he provided the FBI on the American company Transportation Logistics International, also known as TLI, was the primary transport company for Russian enriched uranium sold to the United States.
“One tea cup of what they were transporting both domestically and abroad could close down Wall Street or Washington,” Campbell warned. “(Mueller) ignored and delayed their arrests over years while I was risking my life undercover and interacting with these (Vladimir) Putin appointees both here in the United States and overseas.”
Mmmmm...feels good man :sitr:
then why Kirk is it fine in over half the states. You need to look into the rulings a bit closer pal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingEnactedQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusKirk, my state has voter ID. I must show ID to vote. Why is that ok and legal? In states that have no ID laws you must go up to someone who has a check list and tell them ur name and address. Why do that? Isn’t that discriminating against the homeless? You are citing cases for particular states. Do you realize 33 states, out of fifty, require some form of ID which yes, the Supreme Court ruled is perfectly fine. You are crazy and have little grasp on the US. How is it in your country Kirk? Must u show ID? I don’t know I never voted in your country you idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI'm going to go with the Supreme Court's view on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAnd there you have it folks the bigotry of low expectations on display for all to see. Bravo Kirkland, you're SUCH the champion for them, they can't speak or do for themselves, so lucky they are for as great a champion as you ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I think the law is specifically targeting VOTERS in general because not 1 fucking person is expected to produce something not expected of another.
And also the view of lawyers representing North Carolina in a court case concerning their voter laws. Here they are admitting in court that North Carolina shut down Sunday voting because counties with high levels of Sunday voting were disproportionately black:
https://twitter.com/haroldpollack/st...57219899617280
and
The decision overturned a district court ruling upholding the state voter ID law. Writing for the 4th Circuit, Judge Diana Gribbon called the prior decision “erroneous”:Socioeconomic disparities establish that no mere “preference” led African Americans to disproportionately use early voting, same-day registration, out-of-precinct voting, and preregistration. Nor does preference lead African Americans to disproportionately lack acceptable photo ID. Yet the district court refused to make the inference that undeniably flows from the disparities it found many African Americans in North Carolina experienced. Registration and voting tools may be a simple “preference” for many white North Carolinians, but for many African Americans, they are a necessity.According to Gribbon, the 4th Circuit court concluded “that the General Assembly would not have eliminated same-day registration entirely but for its disproportionate impact on African Americans,” and said that parts of the law amounted to solutions in search of a problem:The only clear factor linking these various “reforms” is their impact on African American voters. The record thus makes obvious that the “problem” the majority in the General Assembly sought to remedy was emerging support for the minority party. Identifying and restricting the ways African Americans vote was an easy and effective way to do so. We therefore must conclude that race constituted a but-for cause of SL 2013-381, in violation of the Constitutional and statutory prohibitions on intentional discrimination.
and a whole bunch of Republicans in various different states admitting their voter laws are to target minority voters here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/u...ical-gain.html
As you can see u are cherry picking court rulings ignoring what doesn’t match your trolling. Again u refuse to use your own logic other than “ that’s racist” the cry of those who have no backing.
I'm not cherry picking anything. A whole bunch of Republican politicians, lawyers acting for states run by Republicans and the entire federal court system don't agree with you on this. The fucking Supreme Court found that voter ID laws are racist. What part of this don't you understand? Why aren't you as upset with the millions of black votes that are disenfranchised every election as you are with nonexistent in person voter fraud?
Despite these alleged racist roadblocks to the ballot box, in 2008 blacks voted at a higher percentage than whites. That same year, liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens wrote one of the majority opinions in a 6-3 case that upheld Indiana’s voter ID law, which required voters to show a photo ID — such as a driver’s license or passport — before casting their votes. Stevens recognized “flagrant examples of (voter) fraud” throughout America’s history and wrote that “not only is the risk of voter fraud real” but “it could affect the outcome of a close election.” The additional burden on voters, Stevens argued, is more than offset by “the state’s interest in counting only the votes of eligible voters.”
Blacks also support voter ID. A 2016 Gallup poll found that 77 percent of non-whites support voter ID, nearly as high as the 81 percent of whites who support it.
The fact that voter ID is legal and popular does not, of course, affect the view that it “suppresses” the minority vote. The George Soros-supported website ThinkProgress ran a story last year with this menacing headline: “New Study Confirms that Voter ID Laws Are Very Racist.”
Citing research by three professors from U.C. San Diego, Michigan State and Bucknell University, the article says: “turnout among Hispanic voters is ‘7.1 percentage points lower in general elections and 5.3 points lower in primaries’ in states with strict voter ID laws. The laws also reduce turnout among African-American and Asian-American voters. White turnout, according to their study, is ‘largely unaffected.'”
Case closed? Not exactly.
A follow-up study by researchers from Yale, Stanford and the University of Pennsylvania found no evidence that voter ID laws have a statistically significant impact on voter turnout. This study examined the methodology and conclusions of the previous study. Its researchers wrote: “Widespread concern that voter identification laws suppress turnout among racial and ethnic minorities has made empirical evaluations of these laws crucial. But problems with administrative records and survey data impede such evaluations. … We show that the results of the paper are a product of data inaccuracies (and) the presented evidence does not support the stated conclusion … When errors are corrected, one can recover positive, negative or null estimates of the effect of voter ID laws on turnout, precluding firm conclusions.”
In other words, the data do not support the notion that the “brown-brown” are too dumb, too lazy or otherwise incapable of obtaining the necessary identification to vote.
You are too thick to answer my question why are some races to dumb to get ID which, by law, we are supposed to have as we are in public. Use your own words
So Kirk since more states have voted ID laws than don’t, does that mean the majority of states are racist?
Kirkland's favorite NEWS source
It’s ridiculous that it’s unconstitutional for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to run for president
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/12/18134...-aoc-president
Immigrants, young people, and everyone else should be allowed to run.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the biggest star in the Democratic Party, and she has been ever since she unseated Rep. Joe Crowley in a surprise primary upset in May. That her win didn’t, in the final analysis, launch a wave of leftist primary victories only goes to show what a phenomenon she personally is.
Not everyone shares her brand of politics, of course, but her constituency has exploded beyond the initial set of ideologues who powered the challenge to Crowley because of her incredible wit, charisma, social media savvy, and basic political smarts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCsVOO_3EUU
Miss "The unemployment rate is low because everybody has 2 jobs" ;D and Matthew Yglesias bleeding heart that he is thinks it's mean and bad that the rules are as they are and he wants to change them....typical idiot Democrat. Yeah let's let a fucking 29 year old bartender run the free world.... :vd:
Honestly I'd LOVE for her to run so everyone can see what a fucking retard she is.
And AGAIN from Kirk's favorite NEWS source...
Obamacare enrollment is almost over and sign-ups are lagging
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/7/181305...thcaregov-2019
Obamacare sign-ups are now down 500,000, or 12 percent, from last year with just a few days of open enrollment left to go.
Through six weeks of open enrollment this year, 4.1 million people have signed up for 2019 coverage. Last year, through six weeks, sign-ups had topped 4.7 million. Enrollment closes on December 15 in most states, so there isn’t much time to close the gap
....it's ALMOST like when people are allowed the opportunity to choose for themselves they do just that instead of being FORCED to buy insurance they don't care to have......amazing :o
Kirk is an idiot. I don’t think he understands how each state has a Supreme Court then the federal government has a Supreme Court. He doesn’t understand state rights and how the US Supreme Court plays into that. We learn this stuff in 5th grade, I don’t have time to give him a lesson. Over 30 states have voter ID laws but Kirk says “it’s racist”Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He reads VOX and they believe EVERYTHING right of Trotsky is all the worst -ists and -isms and -phobes you can think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Both Canada and Mexico have Voter ID laws meaning the United States is the largest most advanced nation in North America NOT to have voter ID. It's insanity for us to NOT have voter ID laws doubly so with this illegal immigration that overwhelmingly impacts OUR nation.
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Originally Posted by walrusthen why Kirk is it fine in over half the states. You need to look into the rulings a bit closer pal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingEnactedQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusKirk, my state has voter ID. I must show ID to vote. Why is that ok and legal? In states that have no ID laws you must go up to someone who has a check list and tell them ur name and address. Why do that? Isn’t that discriminating against the homeless? You are citing cases for particular states. Do you realize 33 states, out of fifty, require some form of ID which yes, the Supreme Court ruled is perfectly fine. You are crazy and have little grasp on the US. How is it in your country Kirk? Must u show ID? I don’t know I never voted in your country you idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI'm going to go with the Supreme Court's view on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAnd there you have it folks the bigotry of low expectations on display for all to see. Bravo Kirkland, you're SUCH the champion for them, they can't speak or do for themselves, so lucky they are for as great a champion as you ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I think the law is specifically targeting VOTERS in general because not 1 fucking person is expected to produce something not expected of another.
And also the view of lawyers representing North Carolina in a court case concerning their voter laws. Here they are admitting in court that North Carolina shut down Sunday voting because counties with high levels of Sunday voting were disproportionately black:
https://twitter.com/haroldpollack/st...57219899617280
and
The decision overturned a district court ruling upholding the state voter ID law. Writing for the 4th Circuit, Judge Diana Gribbon called the prior decision “erroneous”:Socioeconomic disparities establish that no mere “preference” led African Americans to disproportionately use early voting, same-day registration, out-of-precinct voting, and preregistration. Nor does preference lead African Americans to disproportionately lack acceptable photo ID. Yet the district court refused to make the inference that undeniably flows from the disparities it found many African Americans in North Carolina experienced. Registration and voting tools may be a simple “preference” for many white North Carolinians, but for many African Americans, they are a necessity.According to Gribbon, the 4th Circuit court concluded “that the General Assembly would not have eliminated same-day registration entirely but for its disproportionate impact on African Americans,” and said that parts of the law amounted to solutions in search of a problem:The only clear factor linking these various “reforms” is their impact on African American voters. The record thus makes obvious that the “problem” the majority in the General Assembly sought to remedy was emerging support for the minority party. Identifying and restricting the ways African Americans vote was an easy and effective way to do so. We therefore must conclude that race constituted a but-for cause of SL 2013-381, in violation of the Constitutional and statutory prohibitions on intentional discrimination.
and a whole bunch of Republicans in various different states admitting their voter laws are to target minority voters here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/u...ical-gain.html
As you can see u are cherry picking court rulings ignoring what doesn’t match your trolling. Again u refuse to use your own logic other than “ that’s racist” the cry of those who have no backing.
I'm not cherry picking anything. A whole bunch of Republican politicians, lawyers acting for states run by Republicans and the entire federal court system don't agree with you on this. The fucking Supreme Court found that voter ID laws are racist. What part of this don't you understand? Why aren't you as upset with the millions of black votes that are disenfranchised every election as you are with nonexistent in person voter fraud?
Despite these alleged racist roadblocks to the ballot box, in 2008 blacks voted at a higher percentage than whites. That same year, liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens wrote one of the majority opinions in a 6-3 case that upheld Indiana’s voter ID law, which required voters to show a photo ID — such as a driver’s license or passport — before casting their votes. Stevens recognized “flagrant examples of (voter) fraud” throughout America’s history and wrote that “not only is the risk of voter fraud real” but “it could affect the outcome of a close election.” The additional burden on voters, Stevens argued, is more than offset by “the state’s interest in counting only the votes of eligible voters.”
Blacks also support voter ID. A 2016 Gallup poll found that 77 percent of non-whites support voter ID, nearly as high as the 81 percent of whites who support it.
The fact that voter ID is legal and popular does not, of course, affect the view that it “suppresses” the minority vote. The George Soros-supported website ThinkProgress ran a story last year with this menacing headline: “New Study Confirms that Voter ID Laws Are Very Racist.”
Citing research by three professors from U.C. San Diego, Michigan State and Bucknell University, the article says: “turnout among Hispanic voters is ‘7.1 percentage points lower in general elections and 5.3 points lower in primaries’ in states with strict voter ID laws. The laws also reduce turnout among African-American and Asian-American voters. White turnout, according to their study, is ‘largely unaffected.'”
Case closed? Not exactly.
A follow-up study by researchers from Yale, Stanford and the University of Pennsylvania found no evidence that voter ID laws have a statistically significant impact on voter turnout. This study examined the methodology and conclusions of the previous study. Its researchers wrote: “Widespread concern that voter identification laws suppress turnout among racial and ethnic minorities has made empirical evaluations of these laws crucial. But problems with administrative records and survey data impede such evaluations. … We show that the results of the paper are a product of data inaccuracies (and) the presented evidence does not support the stated conclusion … When errors are corrected, one can recover positive, negative or null estimates of the effect of voter ID laws on turnout, precluding firm conclusions.”
In other words, the data do not support the notion that the “brown-brown” are too dumb, too lazy or otherwise incapable of obtaining the necessary identification to vote.
You are too thick to answer my question why are some races to dumb to get ID which, by law, we are supposed to have as we are in public. Use your own words
Nobody is saying that anybody is too dumb to get an ID. The reason that the federal courts sytem from the Supreme Court on down and numerous Republican politicians all admit is that black people are far less likely than white people to carry any form of ID. It's one method, like banning Sunday voting in majority black precincts, that is guaranteed to lower the number of black people who vote. It's a simple as that.
It still means millions of people have bought this health insurance despite there now being no penalty for not buying it. And the fact that the numbers are down is due to the enrollment period being cut to less than half and this not being publicised, no advertising budget this year, no money to provide staff to sign up customers and so on and so on. It's still good news that millions of people will be covered under the Obamacare act though right Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe reads VOX and they believe EVERYTHING right of Trotsky is all the worst -ists and -isms and -phobes you can think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Both Canada and Mexico have Voter ID laws meaning the United States is the largest most advanced nation in North America NOT to have voter ID. It's insanity for us to NOT have voter ID laws doubly so with this illegal immigration that overwhelmingly impacts OUR nation.
One again there have been various national ID card/comprehensive voter regiatration database offers put on the table by Democrats over the years but the GOP don't want to know. They want the current set of laws and to add to them in order to, and I quote the SCOTUS here, "surgically target" black and minority voteers and suppress their vote totals. It's absolutely shameful Lyle.
Oh and I read a whole variety of news sources. What I don't do is belive a load of crazy conspiracy shit like you. You believe a load of fucking lunatic stuff Lyle. Hillary Clinton running paedophile rings out of pizza shops. Q anon. You have zero ability to criticise anybody for reading actual informative news sites you fucking nutcase.
The FBI aren't railroading anybody. Nobody is claiming the Russians won the election for Trump. What's being investigated is if anybody in the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians to try and affect the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And bet me $20 Lyle. Come on. You keep telling us that I read and believe all this crazy stuff yet you won't even put up $20 to back up the actual crazy shit you read. I'll bet you $20 that Mueller, the Clintons, Obama and any other senior figure on the Democratic side don't face a criminal indictment stemming from any of the various probes on the go. You can bet me $20 that somebody does. Fair enough? It's only $20.
And Podesta doesn't count. He's possibly going to face charges for not registering as a lobbyist for a bunch of foreign actors/states but then so are other people on the GOP side of things. Minor stuff like that that isn't related to the current probes don't count.
They wouldn't be denied healthCARE regardless, health INSURANCE maybe but not the actual CARE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingIt still means millions of people have bought this health insurance despite there now being no penalty for not buying it. And the fact that the numbers are down is due to the enrollment period being cut to less than half and this not being publicised, no advertising budget this year, no money to provide staff to sign up customers and so on and so on. It's still good news that millions of people will be covered under the Obamacare act though right Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Typical Democrat policies...feed them, house them, give them healthcare, and teach them only so much....slavery hasn't changed parties only marketing.
What does money matter in the case of being right? Fine whatever $20 for fucks sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You either have health insurance or you don't Lyle. If people don't have insurance they develop a terminal disease and go to the doctor or a hospital and ask for treatment they'll be turned away until they're so sick they qualify for emergency room treatment. This is how the prospect makes them feel:Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThey wouldn't be denied healthCARE regardless, health INSURANCE maybe but not the actual CARE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingIt still means millions of people have bought this health insurance despite there now being no penalty for not buying it. And the fact that the numbers are down is due to the enrollment period being cut to less than half and this not being publicised, no advertising budget this year, no money to provide staff to sign up customers and so on and so on. It's still good news that millions of people will be covered under the Obamacare act though right Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Typical Democrat policies...feed them, house them, give them healthcare, and teach them only so much....slavery hasn't changed parties only marketing.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/1...eat-his-family
You mean the Democrats want to give Americans the same basic rights as people in every other major economy have? And teach them only so much? Why is it that educated people overwhelmingly vote Democratic and high school level educated people vote Republican? The most educated people in the country can't work out which party is best for them?
In other news, yet another investigation launched into the Trump crime family:
Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors
Probe looking into whether committee misspent funds and top donors gave money in exchange for access to the administration
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.
The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.
Giving money in exchange for political favors could run afoul of federal corruption laws. Diverting funds from the organization, which was registered as a nonprofit, could also violate federal law.
The investigation represents another potential legal threat to people who are or were in Mr. Trump’s orbit. Their business dealings and activities during and since the campaign have led to a number of indictments and guilty pleas. Many of the president’s biggest campaign backers were involved in the inaugural fund.
The investigation partly arises out of materials seized in the federal probe of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s business dealings, according to people familiar with the matter.
In April raids of Mr. Cohen’s home, office and hotel room, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents obtained a recorded conversation between Mr. Cohen and Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former adviser to Melania Trump, who worked on the inaugural events. In the recording, Ms. Wolkoff expressed concern about how the inaugural committee was spending money, according to a person familiar with the Cohen investigation.
The Wall Street Journal couldn’t determine when the conversation between Mr. Cohen and Ms. Wolkoff took place, or why it was recorded. The recording is now in the hands of federal prosecutors in Manhattan, a person familiar with the matter said.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-i...rs-11544736455
Things are not looking good for your twenty dollars Lyle. Black Lives Matter and the NAACP are both going to be ten dollars richer at some point in the future.
Merry Christmas everybody. :)
See Kirk once again you bring up a concept that has been battled against for decades, especially after 9/11. National ID laws are unconstitutional and a very sticky subject here in the US. Again, you aren’t an American so I get why you say these things but we don’t want the federal government to have another database on us. It goes back to separation of powers. Besides, one ascpect of the National ID would be for voting which is exactly what you are arguing about. When FDR came out with SSI numbers under the new deal one thing he promised is it wouldn’t be used for Identification purposes, you probably don’t know that but they of course didn’t stick to that promise either. Learn you civics if you want a proper discussion. PS Kirk, do you show ID when you vote in England and if so do you consider it racistQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe reads VOX and they believe EVERYTHING right of Trotsky is all the worst -ists and -isms and -phobes you can think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Both Canada and Mexico have Voter ID laws meaning the United States is the largest most advanced nation in North America NOT to have voter ID. It's insanity for us to NOT have voter ID laws doubly so with this illegal immigration that overwhelmingly impacts OUR nation.
One again there have been various national ID card/comprehensive voter regiatration database offers put on the table by Democrats over the years but the GOP don't want to know. They want the current set of laws and to add to them in order to, and I quote the SCOTUS here, "surgically target" black and minority voteers and suppress their vote totals. It's absolutely shameful Lyle.
Oh and I read a whole variety of news sources. What I don't do is belive a load of crazy conspiracy shit like you. You believe a load of fucking lunatic stuff Lyle. Hillary Clinton running paedophile rings out of pizza shops. Q anon. You have zero ability to criticise anybody for reading actual informative news sites you fucking nutcase.
I mean Democrats and lefties worldwide only view people as slaves and they treat them as such. Freedom of Speech has been eroded by your side...what good is anything without the ability to think and speak freely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou either have health insurance or you don't Lyle. If people don't have insurance they develop a terminal disease and go to the doctor or a hospital and ask for treatment they'll be turned away until they're so sick they qualify for emergency room treatment. This is how the prospect makes them feel:Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThey wouldn't be denied healthCARE regardless, health INSURANCE maybe but not the actual CARE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingIt still means millions of people have bought this health insurance despite there now being no penalty for not buying it. And the fact that the numbers are down is due to the enrollment period being cut to less than half and this not being publicised, no advertising budget this year, no money to provide staff to sign up customers and so on and so on. It's still good news that millions of people will be covered under the Obamacare act though right Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Typical Democrat policies...feed them, house them, give them healthcare, and teach them only so much....slavery hasn't changed parties only marketing.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/1...eat-his-family
You mean the Democrats want to give Americans the same basic rights as people in every other major economy have? And teach them only so much? Why is it that educated people overwhelmingly vote Democratic and high school level educated people vote Republican? The most educated people in the country can't work out which party is best for them?
In other news, yet another investigation launched into the Trump crime family:
Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors
Probe looking into whether committee misspent funds and top donors gave money in exchange for access to the administration
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.
The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.
Giving money in exchange for political favors could run afoul of federal corruption laws. Diverting funds from the organization, which was registered as a nonprofit, could also violate federal law.
The investigation represents another potential legal threat to people who are or were in Mr. Trump’s orbit. Their business dealings and activities during and since the campaign have led to a number of indictments and guilty pleas. Many of the president’s biggest campaign backers were involved in the inaugural fund.
The investigation partly arises out of materials seized in the federal probe of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s business dealings, according to people familiar with the matter.
In April raids of Mr. Cohen’s home, office and hotel room, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents obtained a recorded conversation between Mr. Cohen and Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former adviser to Melania Trump, who worked on the inaugural events. In the recording, Ms. Wolkoff expressed concern about how the inaugural committee was spending money, according to a person familiar with the Cohen investigation.
The Wall Street Journal couldn’t determine when the conversation between Mr. Cohen and Ms. Wolkoff took place, or why it was recorded. The recording is now in the hands of federal prosecutors in Manhattan, a person familiar with the matter said.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-i...rs-11544736455
Things are not looking good for your twenty dollars Lyle. Black Lives Matter and the NAACP are both going to be ten dollars richer at some point in the future.
Merry Christmas everybody. :)
Wake me up when there's a trial
Ah silly me, I thought when you said CHARITY that you meant something like St. Jude's or Leukemia & Lymphoma Society or Toys for Tots or Ronald McDonald House or something.....Oh I have greatly misjudged how spiteful and angry you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
LOL, here I was thinking "Gee maybe I've misjudged Kirk, he DOES seem insistent on this charity deal....maybe he just wants to help out the disadvantaged and those poorly off, maybe kids or cancer patients or something.".....LMFAO nope, he just has the blue balls for trying to get over on me.
I have 0 problem in donating to the groups mentioned if of course I lose that is.....now Kirkland, have you thought the unthinkable? What....if....I (Kirkland).....am....wrong...
;D
What would you be donating to?
I'll let you dream about it
The Paris Accord Promised a Climate Solution. Here’s Where We Are Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/c...mate&smtyp=cur
World leaders struck an agreement three years ago in Paris to avert the worst effects of climate change, accepting not only that greenhouse gases were dangerously heating the planet, but also that every single country needed to do its part to curtail emissions.
Now, emissions are rising in the United States and China, the world’s two largest economies. Other countries are backsliding on their commitments. The world as a whole is not meeting its targets under the Paris pact. As diplomats meet in Katowice, Poland, this week to bring the deal into effect, the world’s 7.6 billion people face mounting risks from more severe and more frequent floods, droughts and wildfires.
The Paris Agreement, it seems, is only as good as the willingness of national leaders to keep their word.
“We have the ways,” António Guterres, the United Nations secretary general, said this week in Katowice. “What we need is the political will to move forward.”
Alternative title "B-b-b-but those world leaders PROMISED!!!" and also "Donald Trump: Is he EVER wrong?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7HZX-hmKqA
....but hey that's just this thing and nothing will happen and hey how about those Chargers eh big win over KC the other day :-\
Report of Investigation: Recovery of Text Messages from Certain FBI Mobile Devices
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/i-2018-003523.pdf
Obstruction? Mueller probe wiped Strzok phone before giving it to investigators
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...investigators/
The Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (OIG) has released a report on its investigation into the recovery of text messages from FBI mobile devices that were once operated by disgraced former FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
The report reveals disturbing details about the inner workings and lack of transparency in the office of special counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election for the past 575 days and has failed to publicize any evidence of Trump-Russia “collusion.”
The OIG report found that all of the texts off of Strzok’s and Page’s mobile phones that they had received while they were working for the special counsel’s office (SCO) were deleted.
SCO’s Records Officer told the OIG that as part of the office’s records retention procedure, the officer reviewed Strzok’s DOJ issued iPhone after he returned it to the SCO and determined it contained no substantive text messages,” the OIG report said in stating that Strzok’s phone had been “reset to factory settings,” which means it was completely wiped of all of its data.
Additionally, the SCO claimed it “was unable to locate the iPhone previously assigned to Page.” When the phone was finally found, it too had all of its data deleted and was reset to factory settings, according to the report.
This is peculiar, given that Strzok and Page were dismissed from the SCO after texts surfaced showing that the couple had a strong anti-Trump bias. Additionally, further texts appeared to show that they were prepared to take action in their official capacity as FBI agents to “stop” candidate Trump from winning the election, citing an “insurance policy” they had put together.
The OIG report raises questions about the transparency of the Mueller investigation as a whole. It adds fuel to the narrative that Mueller was appointed in order to protect corrupt institutions and cover up wrongdoing by elements of the federal government, instead of shining a light on corruption within it.
And then there's this.....just a listing off of how the Clinton Foundation was pay to play...so bad that the Crown Prince of Bahrain wanted to meet with Hillary while she was Secretary of State, he had 0 success through government pathways BUT somehow, someway, the Clinton Foundation hooked up the Crown Prince with a face to face....but hey, nothing. to. see. there :-X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcv_9Q8S8hE
Judge overseeing General Flynn sentencing demands ALL 302s forthwith.... I'd hate for him to find any inconsistencies that would cause concerns in how things were handled because then the government might start asking WHY things were handled that way.
I wonder if Peter Stzrok's partner was as much of a RESISTER as he is. Gee maybe he'll have something to say.
I'm still waiting for Mexico to pay for the wall.:confused:
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Yeah that was a REAL interaction between former FBI Director James "Boy Scout" Comey and Rep. John Ratcliffe...and it's here to remind you that the REAL collusion was between Trump and Russia and NOT Hillary and the Deep State. If you don't believe me, just ask yourself what would happen if you swapped out Hillary Clinton's name for Donald Trump and just think to yourself about how that MIGHT be different.
Here's Boy Scout Comey ADMITTING HILLARY CLINTON BROKE THE LAW and then just saying "Meh, no prosecutor would bring those charges"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NQQk1XXwgE
Compare and contrast how the FBI treated HRC to how it treated General Flynn where James Comey admitted to being underhanded in his approach to entrapping Gen. Flynn....but never you worry Gen. Flynn will be just fine.
But wait.....there's more.....
Anti-Trump dossier author was hired to help Hillary challenge 2016 election results
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-preparing-t/
Mr. Steele wrote: “Fusion’s immediate client was law firm Perkins Coie. It engaged Fusion to obtain information necessary for Perkins Coie LLP to provide legal advice on the potential impact of Russian involvement on the legal validity of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election.
So Hillary hired Christopher Steele to challenge the legitimacy of the 2016 election should she lose, and she DID so here we are.....and a KEY fact of that bogus dossier was that ex-lawyer for Trump Michael Cohen went to Prague, Czech Republic.....and even now as a cooperating witness for NYSD and Mueller Michael Cohen denies ever having been to Prague. Myth busted, the curtain has been drawn revealing the Wizard of Oz to be Ol' Hillary Clinton's crime syndicate...pieces will continue to fall into place, only after a while will people wake up from this mass hypnosis that Trump is guilty of collusion.....a lot more stuff will be coming out. Like the General Flynn 302's which OMG were filed late, that's not like the FBI to allow for such things is such a big case. The FBI had logs of what Gen. Flynn discussed and with who and then when they visited the White House and said he could go without council (Hillary got like 11 lawyers 1 being Cheryl Mills who ain't her lawyer when she was questioned) and the FBI entrapped Gen. Flynn.
But nah nah "You're chasing a conspiracy theory" :rolleyes:
FBI director misstates Patriot Act provisions
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — FBI Director Robert Mueller blames poor training and supervision for the bureau's Patriot Act abuses and promises new training programs. He might want to sign up for the first class himself.
Mueller misstated a key provision of the act in appealing to Congress this week for new authority that was actually granted last year.
"I think he was using old talking points," quipped Georgetown law professor Viet Dinh, who drafted the original Patriot Act in 2001 while serving in the Justice Department.
The director's gaffe came during a high-stakes moment for the FBI and for him.
But when mueller does it it isnt a lie, it’s a misstate
It's a misstate until ;);) CERTAIN PEOPLE ;);) need it to be a lie.....great look FBI :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
.....an Antifa leader has been unmasked and what's this....he works for various democrats and is a VIOLENT communist (as if there are any other kinds)
REVEALED: ANTIFA LEADER RELIED ON ANONYMITY TO PUSH RADICAL, VIOLENT COMMUNIST AGENDA
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/18/a...ent-communist/
Millions of impressionable American minds are being corrupted by Russian-linked memes, “the cruise missiles of fake news”, according to MSNBC’s self-anointed Russia expert. Everyone agrees that this is a reasonable observation.
Malcolm Nance, a former Navy cryptologist who studied Arabic and served in the Middle East, makes regular appearances on MSNBC, where he is given generous amounts of airtime to share his thoughts on all things Russia related. In his latest appearance on the network, Nance described how the destructive power of Russian-linked internet memes have apparently devastated America.
Go Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
There will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Well Trump has stated that axing NAFTA and the money saved by the United States in the USMCA deal will provide enough to build the wall....we shall see.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Military funding is used for the military, the military is used for what? Fighting wars yes, yes, but also protecting American citizens from all threats foreign and domestic....it's in the oath of enlistment. The Army Corps of Engineers will be building the wall from what I understand and yeah I'm all for it for several reasons. One of which is I hate seeing in the news that a little girl has died from "dehydration" and having our border patrol blamed for what was clearly child endangerment. Odds are that little girl was extremely sick for a prolonged period of time but hey if you bring a child
Mexico ain't going to unfuck itself when we keep shelling out money to them AND taking the political pressure off of them by accepting all these illegal immigrants. There's 0 fucking reason Mexican citizens should be as dirt poor as they are and the CORRUPTION that we Americans are ENABLING is keeping them poor. A wall and fixing immigration laws will cause for Mexicans to finally deal with their corrupt overlords. I would hope that America would even help the Mexican citizens reclaim their country.....they need a revolution (hopefully not a shooting one) BADLY.
Oh just a friendly FYI to anyone from ANY nation really especially UN member nations.....
The United Nations wants to make migration a human right....so they for the most part want a borderless WORLD not just a borderless America or Europe but borderless WORLD....think about the impact of that for just one second.
Who is Marty Torrey and....what....has.....he....done? ;)
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Gee, wonder how that happened
There was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Ya spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1