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Bigger question is....if the market is unsteady then why is the Federal Reserve continuing to raise rates like they are? The sooner we're rid of those fucking vampires the better, back to the Gold Standard!!!
To be fair, the Dow has been pretty rocky since the beginning of the year. Seemed only a matter of time before we would experience the steep drop we're seeing now. I know we can blame the Dems for a lot of things, but seriously.....
These things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Did u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
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Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
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Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
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Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
J/K, I was able to translate that into English.
It's also a well-known indicator that if the SI swimsuit edition cover model is from the U.S., the stock market rises..... and viceversa. But then I'm sure you already knew that.
You guys are lost and so full of shit it scares me. #bringbackbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
J/K, I was able to translate that into English.
It's also a well-known indicator that if the SI swimsuit edition cover model is from the U.S., the stock market rises..... and viceversa. But then I'm sure you already knew that.
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Originally Posted by walrusYou guys are lost and so full of shit it scares me. #bringbackbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
J/K, I was able to translate that into English.
It's also a well-known indicator that if the SI swimsuit edition cover model is from the U.S., the stock market rises..... and viceversa. But then I'm sure you already knew that.
Whaaa..... I thought weird stock market indicators were your thing. Geez... talk about mixed signals.
Oddly the market had one of its biggest increase in history today. I’m on the sidelines watching for the time being but I’m thinking of looking into some puts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou guys are lost and so full of shit it scares me. #bringbackbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
J/K, I was able to translate that into English.
It's also a well-known indicator that if the SI swimsuit edition cover model is from the U.S., the stock market rises..... and viceversa. But then I'm sure you already knew that.
Whaaa..... I thought weird stock market indicators were your thing. Geez... talk about mixed signals.
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Originally Posted by walrusOddly the market had one of its biggest increase in history today. I’m on the sidelines watching for the time being but I’m thinking of looking into some puts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou guys are lost and so full of shit it scares me. #bringbackbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDid u notice the market really takes when the repub list the houseQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusThese things need to take place. The market is not built to go up endlessly. Many fundamentals are still positive. A lot of these drops are panic, emotional and algorithmic which is something the SEC should really look at. These interest rates needed to go up. How many years of QE have we had. The argument could be made they are being raised to quickly but the fed isn’t supposed access the stock market in its decisions. Stocks can be and are very volatile historically but as long as u have a long term horizon things should be fine. Please pm me for financial advice for a nominal fee, well not nominal, quite a lot reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Doing quite well thanks.
But appreciate the review on stuff I already knew. It sounds a lot better when you say it.
Hieroglyphics are not my thing.
J/K, I was able to translate that into English.
It's also a well-known indicator that if the SI swimsuit edition cover model is from the U.S., the stock market rises..... and viceversa. But then I'm sure you already knew that.
Whaaa..... I thought weird stock market indicators were your thing. Geez... talk about mixed signals.
Good strategy. Ride the coaster up..... get off at the apex. Good man.
I've no love for The crypt keeper but if the President hopes to hang this around the Dems neck he's just taking us all for a spin and again neglecting his responsibility. The man owns the current state of affairs. We're so far removed from the initial guarantee that Meheeco will pay for it that we might as well be bent over pants around the ankles by giving that a pass. 25 Billion is insane. Best I can tell there was bi partisan support when the House tacked on 5 billion but they and Potus balked at it over a 1 yr reprieve for Daca? Oh and Mexico will pay for it. I'm no hawk and I can't hold a candle to men and women who have risked and given all, your self included, but I cannot wrap my head around bellowing about 'invaders' and 'terrorists storming the boarder'..most carrying trash bags and backpacks with their belongings yet the President unilaterally decides via tweet to vacate the battle field against Isis extremist carrying Kalashnikovs and ieds. Actual bonified killers spreading the seed. We've seen this movie before and we know how it will end or in this case just continue when it comes home to roost. One thing we're consistent at is shitting on our allies, kurds specifically, though and we burn bridges with the best of them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYa spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Ya, why would we ever want to get out of middle eastern country when our track record is so good in them. Lybia is a great place to vacation after we straightened them outQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI've no love for The crypt keeper but if the President hopes to hang this around the Dems neck he's just taking us all for a spin and again neglecting his responsibility. The man owns the current state of affairs. We're so far removed from the initial guarantee that Meheeco will pay for it that we might as well be bent over pants around the ankles by giving that a pass. 25 Billion is insane. Best I can tell there was bi partisan support when the House tacked on 5 billion but they and Potus balked at it over a 1 yr reprieve for Daca? Oh and Mexico will pay for it. I'm no hawk and I can't hold a candle to men and women who have risked and given all, your self included, but I cannot wrap my head around bellowing about 'invaders' and 'terrorists storming the boarder'..most carrying trash bags and backpacks with their belongings yet the President unilaterally decides via tweet to vacate the battle field against Isis extremist carrying Kalashnikovs and ieds. Actual bonified killers spreading the seed. We've seen this movie before and we know how it will end or in this case just continue when it comes home to roost. One thing we're consistent at is shitting on our allies, kurds specifically, though and we burn bridges with the best of them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYa spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Yup straightened them out so good you can now BUY a personal slave for $400Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
It'll be interesting to see what happens in Syria, last times we even attempted a pull out what has happened? "Assad does gas attacks!!!!" oh he does does he? We'll let's see how things pan out sans John McCain mucking up the works over there.
You'd assume if Assad wants to stay in power he wouldn't have done those gas attacks which keep us over there...but these attacks happened and so I wonder "OK, well then who did them?" makes no sense for Assad to get us to attack his folks and their Russian helpers so who could it have been? ISIS? Al Qaeda? Masquerading as "Syrian Rebels" the folks who need help deposing Assad....would they attack their own folks to help their end game? I wouldn't put it past them.
Let Russia have their satellite state we've got enough on our plate.
Oh yeah no problem with middle easterners crossing at MexicoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI've no love for The crypt keeper but if the President hopes to hang this around the Dems neck he's just taking us all for a spin and again neglecting his responsibility. The man owns the current state of affairs. We're so far removed from the initial guarantee that Meheeco will pay for it that we might as well be bent over pants around the ankles by giving that a pass. 25 Billion is insane. Best I can tell there was bi partisan support when the House tacked on 5 billion but they and Potus balked at it over a 1 yr reprieve for Daca? Oh and Mexico will pay for it. I'm no hawk and I can't hold a candle to men and women who have risked and given all, your self included, but I cannot wrap my head around bellowing about 'invaders' and 'terrorists storming the boarder'..most carrying trash bags and backpacks with their belongings yet the President unilaterally decides via tweet to vacate the battle field against Isis extremist carrying Kalashnikovs and ieds. Actual bonified killers spreading the seed. We've seen this movie before and we know how it will end or in this case just continue when it comes home to roost. One thing we're consistent at is shitting on our allies, kurds specifically, though and we burn bridges with the best of them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYa spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.was...grants-from-m/
And what allies are u reffering to, our great one China
Mueller going above and beyond to catch trump, talking nude selfies of himself according to Wapo
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...evidence-conc/
Yeah withholding exculpatory evidence is a SPECIALTY of Mueller's team....Andrew Weissmann is an extremely bad apple and the same lessons will be learned again if he's allowed enough rope.
The truth will eventually come out and it won't be so hot for Robert Mueller who shouldn't even be Special Council due to Rod Rosenstein (someone who is INVOLVED in the actual case itself as a witness) appointing him AND his close friendship with 100% Total Boyscout and Herman Munster cosplayer James "He cost Hillary the election, fire him! Wait he's the best guy ever you need to be investigated for firing him!" Comey
The "OMG Trump is guilty" side has a nonsensical angle on this whole thing....they got embarrassed by losing the election, they doubled down on it to the point of attempting a coup, and now they are scrambling to find ANYTHING to keep the light off of them. Pull 1 single thread on their story and follow it...hell just look at who USED to work at the FBI when this started and who has been fired, resigned, or reassigned, due to their own ILLEGAL actions on this very case.....the list is a mile long and it starts at the tippy top.
Typical soft-headed Trump hater refuses to serve man with Trump T-Shirt, then yells and screams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=PK-mnbH4s74
Thanks to all of you the border fence is complete, thank you
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...46247155907412
By Annie Linskey Globe Staff
January 27, 2017
WASHINGTON — As a senator, Barack Obama once offered measured praise for the border control legislation that would become the basis for one of Donald Trump’s first acts as president.
“The bill before us will certainly do some good,” Obama said on the Senate floor in October 2006. He praised the legislation, saying it would provide “better fences and better security along our borders” and would “help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country.”
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Obama was talking about the Secure Fence Act of 2006, legislation authorizing a barrier along the southern border passed into law with the support of 26 Democratic senators including party leaders like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Chuck Schumer.
That's why they call it programming :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
But I don't see why anyone would 'vote' for someone to control them. But it's an illusion that has been created to make people think they have a choice.
We are all people, not 1 of us is more important or has authority over another.
:vd: who said it wasn't a reality and possibility? My point Wals, Trump knee-jerks to bunker mode with no apparent stated plan or intent while simultaneously yelling about invaders out of both sides of his mouth? Except to bunker up behind some symbolic trophy wall and wait for the doorbell to ring. Again. I think we've forgotten how hard we were smacked around that one fateful morning..by real terroists..and frankly a 'wall' would have not mattered. It's almost a bait and switch. Fact is and we don't want to admit it..but large parts of that shit show in the distance is on us. We're not talking battalions of front line infantry these are quick reaction, speial operators to break up plans, basically fobs, training advising etc. If we've learned anything as stubborn as we are in this Country it's that we don't throw our blood and treasure away for cheap political talking points, grandstanding and BS..known..BS about wmds anymore. But to think you can close your eyes and hide under the bed is a recipe to send more after we get punched in the puss all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusOh yeah no problem with middle easterners crossing at MexicoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI've no love for The crypt keeper but if the President hopes to hang this around the Dems neck he's just taking us all for a spin and again neglecting his responsibility. The man owns the current state of affairs. We're so far removed from the initial guarantee that Meheeco will pay for it that we might as well be bent over pants around the ankles by giving that a pass. 25 Billion is insane. Best I can tell there was bi partisan support when the House tacked on 5 billion but they and Potus balked at it over a 1 yr reprieve for Daca? Oh and Mexico will pay for it. I'm no hawk and I can't hold a candle to men and women who have risked and given all, your self included, but I cannot wrap my head around bellowing about 'invaders' and 'terrorists storming the boarder'..most carrying trash bags and backpacks with their belongings yet the President unilaterally decides via tweet to vacate the battle field against Isis extremist carrying Kalashnikovs and ieds. Actual bonified killers spreading the seed. We've seen this movie before and we know how it will end or in this case just continue when it comes home to roost. One thing we're consistent at is shitting on our allies, kurds specifically, though and we burn bridges with the best of them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYa spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.was...grants-from-m/
And what allies are u reffering to, our great one China
Real question is why would Obama, Schumer, Pelosi all agree to fund the wall and now they don't?
They are treasonous vile people who care more about illegal immigrants than our own citizens. Keypoint in California a police officer was just killed this police officer was a legal naturalized citizen Ronil Singh he was killed by an illegal immigrant who should have been deported and only stayed due to Sanctuary city laws and how many Californian politicians have commented on this one Republican and one Democrat and that is all Nancy Pelosi has not said anything about this and nor will she because she doesn't want to have that discussion.
At the end of the day the politicians will either do the will of the people or the people will do their will to the politicians.
No need for a wall.....
http://youtu.be/3ncnetwVMHk
Anyone who wants a wall is a racist, bigot, xenophobe and doesn't care about lives. :-\
@Freedom stop posting these racist pics. It lacks diversity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Isn’t it funny how the left screams for open borders yet constantly ridicules the First Ladies accent
Anyone watch the Elizabeth Warren "I'm announcing my,run for President, hold on I'm gonna get me a beer." Video?
She might be 1/1064ths Indian but the rest is ROBOT or cringy Narc "how do you do fellow kids?"....just as cringy as Hillary LMFAO
The Trump-Russia collusion investigation is about foreign influence on American elections.
How young immigrant 'Dreamers' made flipping control of the House a personal quest
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Former NY Times editor rips Trump coverage as biased
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/for...rage-as-biased
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I hear ya spics but if you look back at 9/11 that is when they actually started pumping up the idea of the US being weak at the Mexican border for terrorists and doomsday weapons. It was a big thing for quite a while. It was in the NYT, the Economists etc along with all of our smart spy people saying it was an issue. They caught a few shortly after 9/11 at the border crossing and have been catching some since. So it was a big issue, a priority under Bush and Obama, well for obama maybe it lasted for a year or two. Bush had a bunch of wars and one of his advisors woke him up one day and said “Mr President, the entire US economic system may shit the bed today we have a problem.” (Believe it or not what I just wrote is similar to what actually happened, Bush advisor part) anyway I certainly don’t think middle eastern terrorist are a main reason for building the wall. Terrorists groups work with the cartels but I don’t think they are in a rush to smuggle dirty bombs or bio hazard shit into the US for ISIS as they then yes, prob the next day a wall will be built from sea to shining sea and that would fuck up a multi billion dollar drug business. I just think there is enough evidence around that shows our southern border has been an issue talked about but ignored for enough years. It has been talked about long before 9/11 from both sides of the aisle. I think Nancy Pelosi clapped when obama talked about a wall. So let’s put the frickin thing up. It’s not like it’s a new idea. When Trump mentioned the wall in that televised squabble they had at the White House Pelosi said “now your just talking campaign promises” WTF does that mean Nancy. Either you think all campaign promises are bullshit or you are jumping on this because it is a campaign promise of Trumps and she ain’t letting none of that happen. One of trumps biggest problems is he is a guy who had got a lot of shit done in life. He comes in as president and was hoping to do the same but he is facing a system that is built not to change. Originally it was a good idea, the framers of the constitution didn’t want things too easily moved around. That was a good idea at the time and still is to a degree but the framers didn’t mean don’t do nothing, get together and do it right. Trump gave the Dems a very nice spending bill for some good social programs and what not so he could get his military spending. Anyway I wandered a bit. The border wall was part of a campaign promise which means a bunch of people in this country voted for it. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I’ve heard Nancy Pelosi say 5 billion dollars is too much money. I think about 80% of our Congress doesn’t anymore know what money is. It’s just stuff you poor into stuff to do stuff and if you need more they print it across the streetQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli:vd: who said it wasn't a reality and possibility? My point Wals, Trump knee-jerks to bunker mode with no apparent stated plan or intent while simultaneously yelling about invaders out of both sides of his mouth? Except to bunker up behind some symbolic trophy wall and wait for the doorbell to ring. Again. I think we've forgotten how hard we were smacked around that one fateful morning..by real terroists..and frankly a 'wall' would have not mattered. It's almost a bait and switch. Fact is and we don't want to admit it..but large parts of that shit show in the distance is on us. We're not talking battalions of front line infantry these are quick reaction, speial operators to break up plans, basically fobs, training advising etc. If we've learned anything as stubborn as we are in this Country it's that we don't throw our blood and treasure away for cheap political talking points, grandstanding and BS..known..BS about wmds anymore. But to think you can close your eyes and hide under the bed is a recipe to send more after we get punched in the puss all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusOh yeah no problem with middle easterners crossing at MexicoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI've no love for The crypt keeper but if the President hopes to hang this around the Dems neck he's just taking us all for a spin and again neglecting his responsibility. The man owns the current state of affairs. We're so far removed from the initial guarantee that Meheeco will pay for it that we might as well be bent over pants around the ankles by giving that a pass. 25 Billion is insane. Best I can tell there was bi partisan support when the House tacked on 5 billion but they and Potus balked at it over a 1 yr reprieve for Daca? Oh and Mexico will pay for it. I'm no hawk and I can't hold a candle to men and women who have risked and given all, your self included, but I cannot wrap my head around bellowing about 'invaders' and 'terrorists storming the boarder'..most carrying trash bags and backpacks with their belongings yet the President unilaterally decides via tweet to vacate the battle field against Isis extremist carrying Kalashnikovs and ieds. Actual bonified killers spreading the seed. We've seen this movie before and we know how it will end or in this case just continue when it comes home to roost. One thing we're consistent at is shitting on our allies, kurds specifically, though and we burn bridges with the best of them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYa spics. Trump wanted 25 billion and in the news conference with Pelosi and Schumer he brought it down to 5 billion. Now they give him shit about 1.5 billion. Schumer and Pelosi give not one shit of having a wall at the border which people, including democrats, have been trying to get done for 30 years they just want to have tantrums telling trump he is wrong and the people who voted for him are wrong. Instead they will put another couple hundred billion in social programs that are at least 30% government red tape waste. It’s a gleeful moment for the left, nothing to do about what Americans voted for but the fact that they get to stick it to trump more. They would much rather spend a few trillion protecting Syrian borders and now have a fit that trump dare talk about removing the US from another middle eastern mess that have worked out for us so well over the past 50 years. As long as Pelosi can continue to personally enrich her family from her cherished lifelong seat of power helping administrations rack up 20 trillion in us debt, fuck it, now she is being fiscally conservative and won’t give a penny for the border wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThere was actually meat on that bone for a bit but I don't think the bill has even made it out of subcommittee? And they could even be 'American' and send money back ;D but with a higher tax proposed on single businesses, how is that enforced. Or a flat across the board tax? The wall..now steel slates with spikes ???..has turned into the Nations anchor. We've gone complete over simplification and cartoon Game of thrones with this wall..that Mexico won't pay for..nonsense. The week has been a clusterfeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere will be plenty of ways to charge Mexico for a wall. Taxes on western union transfers that Mexicans send back when they work here, border crossing charges, tariffs the list is almost endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGo Fundme seems to be going swimmingly just a few billion more to go but hey it's progress. Those who refuse to donate will have their addresses handed over to the scariest looking single men and given a brand new Walmart machete, a 30 second jail tat and sent on their way. Trump sounds like he's doubling down on turning our Military into full time layers of razor wire and ditch diggers and says they can 'build' it. Not sure he understands that still really doesn't fund it but maybe that's splitting hairs. If he was a real out of the box thinker he would implement a lottery program or something for all the inbound immigrants. Biggest free labor program in the Nations history, you put in a month of new brick building and section laying you win your legal status or a short ankle bracelet vacation at least. He'll get a win win..Mexico. will after all play a part in funding and building it. Bottom line..Mexico isn't paying for a thing :-X. That was all auctioneering rabble rabble speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
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And what allies are u reffering to, our great one China
Just put this here for safe keeping
WASHINGTON – It’s a simple question: You supported the border wall in 2006, so why not now?
Six key Democrats have entirely flip-flopped on the issue and the mainstream media have not bothered to ask them why.
WND asked each of them and did not receive a single response.
Six current Democratic U.S. senators, including the party’s top leadership, all voted for the
Secure Fence Act Of 2006, the very law President Trump is now using as lawful authorization to build a wall on the country’s border with Mexico.
They are:
Minority Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.
Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.
Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del.
Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.
Not only do they all oppose the wall now, they are vowing to stop a Republican bill in the works to fund its construction.
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif
As the Republicans have 52 seats in the Senate, they need 8 Democrats to vote for funding the wall in order to avoid a filibuster.
If such influential Democratic leaders as Schumer, Feinstein, Wyden and Nelson were to support the wall now, as they did a decade ago, a successful filibuster would seem unlikely and the wall would be funded.
Feinstein said in 2006: “Democrats are solidly behind controlling the border, and we support the border fence.”
But something drastic happened since 2006, whether it was a change of heart or change in politics.
Schumer said in November: “We’re not going to help him (Trump) build his wall. We have a comprehensive immigration-reform bill that builds in much tougher border security and it had bipartisan support than he’s ever called for.”
On Wednesday, Wyden said: “The bottom line here is this is another divisive policy and it’s another polarizing policy.”
Read more at https://mobile.wnd.com/2017/01/media...Wt2kJyt7gM7.99
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This gofundme stuff just goes to show that we don't need government. If people want something done (walls, roads, whatever etc) , they will get behind it and get it done. No government needed.
Why what’s it up to alpha. I gotta take a look.Quote:
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