Who REALLY won the Hatton vs Collazo fight?

I had it Collazo by 1 then on seond viewing Hatton by 1. In all fairness,it could have been a draw and that would not have been a bad result. I still think tere needs to be a rematch though. I don't like compubox stats,I'm sure they count anything as a punch and if we are going by throwing landing etc then B-Hop beats Taylor twice right? There are other factors too,such as who landed the more effective,cleaner punches? In my opinion and as much as I hate to admit it, I think Collazo hurt Hatton way more than Hatton hurt Collazo.

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Originally Posted by ono

look at the punch stats

Hatton threw more, landed more, had better success rate, landed a lot more power punches, worked harder, was more aggressive. forget the eye catchin combinations cos they don't win you fights. Take your 'i hate the hitman' glasses off and watch the fight again...scoring it round by round.

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I think it is you who needs to take his "I LOVE RICKY HATTON" glasses off and watch the fight as what it should have been a BOXING match and see who boxed better not who was holding and rabbit punching and pushing the opponents' head down.

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Simply 'boxing better' doesn't always win you boxing matches. It wasn't a dirty fight....the referee didnt take no points away from either fighter...Hatton wasn't holding or rabbit punching any more then any other aggressive fighter. To be honest it was one of the cleanest fights i have seen in a while. Are you Luis Collazo in disquise?

The real winner of the fight may have been Don King.


Sorry but the winner was not Don KIng it was Art!!!!!!!!

Having watched it live and then replayed then on tape I've scored it 115-113 Hatton initially and stand by it.

It was VERY close live and I think my expectations of Hatton dominating the fight skewed my opinion. The fact that Collazzo made it extremely competitive and difficult for Hatton made me feel the fight was closer than it was upon rewiew.

Bottom line is that rounds are awarded to a fighter based on;

1) Clean effective punching
2) Ring Generalship
3) Defense
4) Effective aggression

On that basis Hatton won the most rounds and thus the fight. I laugh at people wanting to make the 1st round 10-9 for Hatton and the 12th 10-8 for Collazzo. Taking away a legitimate knockdown (even if it was a flash) and give the other guy a 10-8 round WITHOUT a knockdown is laughable. Collazzo hurt Hatton in the 12th - no doubt, but Hatton showed an ability do protect himself when stunned and even managed to control the last minute of the round and drive Collazzo back YET AGAIN. Absolutely no way that round could be 10-8 when Hatton threw more punches, landed more punches and fought the round on his terms - even after being rocked.

Out performing expectations is not a reason to give a guy a round, let alone a fight. Collazzo was beaten - not by much - but beaten nonetheless. He should buck up and take it like a man and quit the whining. He still walked away with a boost for his career - he's a legitimate bigtime welterweight now and he needs to focus on the future.

Call out Margarito. Nobody wants to fight him either. Take his belt and become a major player again. Hatton is fighting for a legacy and a rematch with Collazzo doesn't further that agenda.

hatton won but barely O0

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Having watched it live and then replayed then on tape I've scored it 115-113 Hatton initially and stand by it.

It was VERY close live and I think my expectations of Hatton dominating the fight skewed my opinion. The fact that Collazzo made it extremely competitive and difficult for Hatton made me feel the fight was closer than it was upon rewiew.

Bottom line is that rounds are awarded to a fighter based on;

1) Clean effective punching
2) Ring Generalship
3) Defense
4) Effective aggression

On that basis Hatton won the most rounds and thus the fight. I laugh at people wanting to make the 1st round 10-9 for Hatton and the 12th 10-8 for Collazzo. Taking away a legitimate knockdown (even if it was a flash) and give the other guy a 10-8 round WITHOUT a knockdown is laughable. Collazzo hurt Hatton in the 12th - no doubt, but Hatton showed an ability do protect himself when stunned and even managed to control the last minute of the round and drive Collazzo back YET AGAIN. Absolutely no way that round could be 10-8 when Hatton threw more punches, landed more punches and fought the round on his terms - even after being rocked.

Out performing expectations is not a reason to give a guy a round, let alone a fight. Collazzo was beaten - not by much - but beaten nonetheless. He should buck up and take it like a man and quit the whining. He still walked away with a boost for his career - he's a legitimate bigtime welterweight now and he needs to focus on the future.

Call out Margarito. Nobody wants to fight him either. Take his belt and become a major player again. Hatton is fighting for a legacy and a rematch with Collazzo doesn't further that agenda.
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Nice post could'nt agree with you more except am still not sure why there was'nt a drug test afterwards :detective:

For the last time...Hatton did Not win that fight you stubborn bitches! ::**

for the last time.......Hatton DID win the fight, god, where do you americans get your results from? it was a close fight, but a win is a win, stop moaning about it and move on.....

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Originally Posted by tonythedon

for the last time.......Hatton DID win the fight, god, where do you americans get your results from? it was a close fight, but a win is a win, stop moaning about it and move on.....

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What is it with you Brits and trying to rationalize gift decisions?

gift decisions? he won the fight man, get over it, hatton was more aggresive than collazo and overall landed more punches, it was close (as i said before) but hatton did win the fight....

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Originally Posted by tonythedon

for the last time.......Hatton DID win the fight, god, where do you americans get your results from? it was a close fight, but a win is a win, stop moaning about it and move on.....

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What is it with you Brits and trying to rationalize gift decisions?

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That is your opinion, it is totally your call, thankfully opinions other than that of the judges do not count, the only thing that counts is Hatton got his W and is 41-0 ;)

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Originally Posted by tonythedon

gift decisions? he won the fight man, get over it, hatton was more aggresive than collazo and overall landed more punches, it was close (as i said before) but hatton did win the fight....

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Just keep telling yourself that man. He was out on his feet in the last round, continually had his head bounced around the ring, and was beaten up by Collazo. His agrression did little to hurt Collazo, over half the time he was just rushing in, throwin one or two punches and then clinching. It was a pretty close fight, but Hatton certainly didn't do enuff to take a champion's title away. Not when he is stumbling around the freakin ring in the last round, and getttin pot shotted all night.

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gift decisions? he won the fight man, get over it, hatton was more aggresive than collazo and overall landed more punches, it was close (as i said before) but hatton did win the fight....

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Not when he is stumbling around the freakin ring in the last round

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I think we all missed the memo that stated any fighter stumbling in the last round losses the fight.

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Originally Posted by tonythedon

gift decisions? he won the fight man, get over it, hatton was more aggresive than collazo and overall landed more punches, it was close (as i said before) but hatton did win the fight....

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Not when he is stumbling around the freakin ring in the last round

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I think we all missed the memo that stated any fighter stumbling in the last round losses the fight.

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Maybe you missed the memo that having Collazo winning 8 rounds has him the victor and Ricky getting a gift decision ;)

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Originally Posted by Starr

Maybe you missed the memo that having Collazo winning 8 rounds has him the victor and Ricky getting a gift decision ;)

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Thats just your opinion, an opinion that wasn't shared by 3 professional judges.