Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
hmm i can sense this could be another arce vs. mijares situation like in the making. ;D
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been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.
THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...
in this months FHM hatton once again expresses how much he would love to fight mayweather. he has done this time and time again mate. if for whatever reason this fight never happens it will be because floyd is being a greedy bastard and demanding to much or if he retires after de la hoya.
Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
8) SORRY GUYS BUT I JUST DONT THINK YOUR GOING TO SEE THE DAY HATTON BEATS MAYWEATHER!
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HAtton could barely stand a chance against Collazo what he thinks he can do against PBF.
Sorry I like Hatton but PBF is bigger and stronger (yes stronger) maybe not a one punch ko guy but when Hatton start push he will get push back.
And yes I will pay to see this fight but Hatton has to come up to 147 that thing people say to fight at a catchweight is crap. Step up or stay down.
LOL I got Sad clicked :'(
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Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
There's always a possibility with these World Class boxers but it would be extremely difficult. CC Dude
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I truly think the Rick that beat Kostya has a VERY GOOD chance of beating Floyd but his form has dropped a bit since then. As much as I love the guy I just don't agree with his lifestyle anymore as it appears to be affecting his performance in the ring. He said he was going to keep his weight down for the Castillo fight but was already 12 stone on the J Ross show a month or so back.
So with Ricks recent form I would say PBF wins about 8-9 rounds to an UD at 147.......In Ricks best form (which I sadly think is gone forever) it would be a different fight altogether.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.
Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...
I would disagree with you that Castillo as a better arsenal/stamina/chin than Ricky. I would agree that Floyd is a better fighter now than when he fought Castillo. There is nobody 154 and under, other than Shane or Oscar who has a CHANCE to beat Floyd. I used to think Ricky could hang with Floyd and push him, but the more I watch and rewatch both fighters, I have seen the error of my ways. I love Hatton and I like him to beat Castillo, but Floyd outpoints him pretty easily.
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been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.
Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...
I would disagree with you that Castillo as a better arsenal/stamina/chin than Ricky. I would agree that Floyd is a better fighter now than when he fought Castillo. There is nobody 154 and under, other than Shane or Oscar who has a CHANCE to beat Floyd. I used to think Ricky could hang with Floyd and push him, but the more I watch and rewatch both fighters, I have seen the error of my ways. I love Hatton and I like him to beat Castillo, but Floyd outpoints him pretty easily.
I was really meaning more, that when Castillo fought Mayweather, he had better stamina and the ability to absorb shots than Hatton does NOW.. I guess their arsenal is about on par. But basically I'm not sure Hatton or Castillo either have a good hard 12 round fight left in them..
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
been through this one so many times that i cant really be arsed to get into it again. i'm solely posting this comment simply because after reading so many of you not giving hatton a prayer i'm gonna get in ricky's corner. a lot of you seem to think that hatton won't lay a glove on floyd or something. i think if hatton fights floyd and just goes for him similar to the red mist night that he dethroned tszyu that he will rough floyd up to much to allow him to use his bag of tricks. hatton would be all over floyd like a rash and smother his work. floyd has never been put under that presure and the closest it's been was against castillo in the first fight where many argue that the tactic beat floyd despite the decision. floyd has progressed as a fighter since then but the same logic still applies. judah took the fight to floyd for the first half of the fight and had good success with the tactic, however judah couldnt keep it up for 12 and alowed himself to get frustrated with floyd.
Floyd was under just as much pressure as Hatton could LEGALLY apply, when he fought Castillo.. JLC is a much more skilled pressure fighter than Hatton is, he has/had a better arsenal, better stamina, chin... And how in the hell can you imply that since Zab "took it to Floyd", and had success for 4 rounds, that Hatton could do the same and somehow win.. As if they fight anything alike.. Judah is way, way faster than Hatton, and he hits much harder at 147. Hatton can't fight anything like that, he isn't that quick, he isn't a counter puncher, he isn't a southpaw, he doesn't have much pop.. It's just not a reasonable comparison.. The only fair measuring stick that gives Hatton a chance is based on ONE fight five freaking years ago, when Floyd easily won an immediate rematch anyways.. He's a better fighter since then, just bullrushing him and applying constant pressure is going to be much much harder for a fighter to have success with then it was then. I really probably shouldn't have even responded because some of you from the UK will just always like to dream that Hatton could beat Mayweather. THe fight will never even happen, because even Hatton knows he can't...
I would disagree with you that Castillo as a better arsenal/stamina/chin than Ricky. I would agree that Floyd is a better fighter now than when he fought Castillo. There is nobody 154 and under, other than Shane or Oscar who has a CHANCE to beat Floyd. I used to think Ricky could hang with Floyd and push him, but the more I watch and rewatch both fighters, I have seen the error of my ways. I love Hatton and I like him to beat Castillo, but Floyd outpoints him pretty easily.
I was really meaning more, that when Castillo fought Mayweather, he had better stamina and the ability to absorb shots than Hatton does NOW.. I guess their arsenal is about on par. But basically I'm not sure Hatton or Castillo either have a good hard 12 round fight left in them..
it really hard for me to suss out where Hatton really stands right now. I thought he looked great, almost dominating, against Mausa. Then struggled against a larger, better than expected, Collazo. He followed that up with a lackluster, but smart, fight against Urango. So who is Ricky Hatton right now? I'm not really sure. Part of me thinks that his lifestyle and weight fluctuations have made him get old before his time. There is a realistic possibility that we have seen the best Ricky Hatton that we will ever see. It's possible that he peaked on the night he beat Tzsyu and we will never see that version of Ricky again.
Or maybe he is just fine and the 2005 Version of Hatton is still there. His performances might have been the result of being in against a much bigger guy (Collazo) and fighting a smart, workman-like fight against Urango. I know this much. If he can't beat Castillo, 2007, he either done or over-rated. This should be the second BIG name on his resume. He doesn't need need to KO him. He just needs to beat him clearly (not necessarily easily).
Either way, he ain't gonna beat Mayweather ;D
Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
I can guarantee you'll see 12 rounds of action from the hitman. Honestly, you people can keep talking, the Hitman will silence all the critics again like he did 2 years ago. It's in fashion to talk shit about Hatton.
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Excellent analysis I whole heartedly agree with it and thats why I'm so confident Hatton will beat Floyd and have been for ages. I'm pretty sure when rick says all he'd do is jump all over him, he's bluffing, its quite well known that billy graham has had his eye on mayweather for years and has devised the strategy in his head.
Do you think Billy Graham is the man to take him to that level, i have my doubts.
Its hard to question him, he's got rick this far and also trained him to beat Kostya Tszyu, the legend, who was probably considered as unbeatable as mayweather is now. Plus, we've all seen what happens when a lifelong trainer is sacked, the biggest case in point is Prince Naseem.
Good Point....When you are so used to the same voice for so many years I would guess you become to trust what they say...They pretty much become your inner voice in the corner
Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
Im a huge hatton fan, but floyd is pure class. Hatton leaves his chin exposed too much and mayweather wud take advantage of this. Hatton will be collazo tho!
Re: Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather
I love to watch Hatton fight, but he's not in the same league as Floyd. Anyone who bets on Hatton, call me, I'll be happy to take you're money.
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I honestly do just think Hatton has looked bad because he has fought 2 southpaws. One was bigger than him and the other one was bigger than Ronnie Coleman. I've seen Hatton fight southpaws before and struggle and the last two fights have been no different....it's just that those are the only 2 fights he has had since the start of 2006. I also feel not fighting in England has a little bit to do with it. Nothing to do with referee's / judges etc, i just mean the atmosphere and the hostility. The atmosphere gave Hatton a huge boost while intimidating his opponent at the same time.
And that's why Hatton stil has a chance against Mayweather.....if he can get him in the UK.
