Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
How can anyone say Foreman knocks out Vitali because Vitali has never been knocked down let alone out.There is nothing to gauge it on.Foreman has been put down by Young and Ali and I am sure Vitali was a harder puncher than both of them.As far as Holyfield I think it would have gone to the cards with Vitali winning a close decision.
Ok #1, Foreman suffered from heat exhaustion in the Jimmy Young fight. He collapsed more than was knocked out. Vitali can most likely hit harder than Ali but is nowhere near as scientific of a fighter. Ali had a master plan executed to a 'T' to beat Big George back then and he still got pretty lucky doing it. Vitali is not a scientific fighter, he can box but he's mostly a bomber that trades with you. That would never work with a young Foreman, who was one of the hardest punching heavyweights ever. Foreman would definitely KO him IMO. Another thing is the speed factor. As far as speed VK and Foreman were about equal. You gotta be way faster than Foreman to do what Ali did to him. In short, VK is no Muhammad Ali and will never be a shadow of the fighter that Ali was. He came about during a time where there was no one to fight so maybe we wont ever know how good he was and how hard he hit, but IMO all he has ever done was beat up a bunch of lackluster contenders that never would have even been considered
'C-'level opponents in George's day.
Jimmy Young -vs- George Foreman 1977 | Rounds 7-8 DONT QUITE KNOW HOW YOUNG SURVIVED THEM PUNCHES
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Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
How can anyone say Foreman knocks out Vitali because Vitali has never been knocked down let alone out.There is nothing to gauge it on.Foreman has been put down by Young and Ali and I am sure Vitali was a harder puncher than both of them.As far as Holyfield I think it would have gone to the cards with Vitali winning a close decision.
vitali was never in with someone who hit as hard as foreman so u cant say that only real hard hitter he fought was lewis young knockdown was more of a slip ali knockdown was foreman punching himself out so can i ask u something u think vitali beats all other heavyweights ??
No I don't think he beats all other heavyweights, you just can't asume that Foreman would knock him out, and vice versa.If Foreman had never been in with a guy like Vitali and Vitali had never been in with a guy like Foreman there isn't much in the way to gauge how either would do.All I know is Vitali has never been down or even close and Foreman has.
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
How can anyone say Foreman knocks out Vitali because Vitali has never been knocked down let alone out.There is nothing to gauge it on.Foreman has been put down by Young and Ali and I am sure Vitali was a harder puncher than both of them.As far as Holyfield I think it would have gone to the cards with Vitali winning a close decision.
vitali was never in with someone who hit as hard as foreman so u cant say that only real hard hitter he fought was lewis young knockdown was more of a slip ali knockdown was foreman punching himself out so can i ask u something u think vitali beats all other heavyweights ??
No I don't think he beats all other heavyweights, you just can't asume that Foreman would knock him out, and vice versa.If Foreman had never been in with a guy like Vitali and Vitali had never been in with a guy like Foreman there isn't much in the way to gauge how either would do.All I know is Vitali has never been down or even close and Foreman has.
im not certain if he would ko him id have to know how good vitalis chin is because only seen him hit bad against lewis id need to see him more against other punchers and get hit bang on the chin
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
Corey Sanders caught him pretty fucking flush
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty fucking flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty F****** flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
Corrie Sanders has close the a perfect record, got unlucky against one, lost against Rahman after having flored him! Lost in a competitive fight against Vitali; the rounds where he had energy he was equal to Vitali not many guys choose to FIGHT Vitali. IMO Corrie is one of the best in the last years. He could still beat maskaev, Vlad, Briggs etc. After Vitali he completely destroyed 2 more guys and then quit. Imagine fighting one klit after the other. respect.
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by plinden
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty F****** flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
Corrie Sanders has close the a perfect record, got unlucky against one, lost against Rahman after having flored him! Lost in a competitive fight against Vitali; the rounds where he had energy he was equal to Vitali not many guys choose to FIGHT Vitali. IMO Corrie is one of the best in the last years. He could still beat maskaev, Vlad, Briggs etc. After Vitali he completely destroyed 2 more guys and then quit.
Imagine fighting one klit after the other. respect.
I actually prefer taking on 2 Klits at a time... but don't tell the wife Doh ! ! ;D
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
Foreman wins with a 4th or 5th round knockout and Holyfield wins via 10th round knockout.
That is one exiting fight LMAO
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty fucking flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
I was talking about Vitali dude....people said "Lennox Lewis hit him hard but he didn't get hit by any other power punchers"
And YES Corey Sanders he hit hard and fast
But fuck it I'm never getting through to Mr. Lords Gym who thinks Zombie Holyfield is going to be unified champion again
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
Evidently I am older or perhaps smarter than the rest of you. George Foreman was a better fighter when he came back at forty than when he was young. I really donot know why some of you donot want to give Klitschko his due. He is big strong athletic a decent defensive fighter. and he hits hard. why do You people think that the older fighters are stronger. they donot have the training that these younger fighters do. George did not have an extensive amatuer background however He did fight in the Olympics. George was 6'3" and 225 in his prime. vitali is 6'8" 250 and slim. Plus George was stupid. Evander is a different story even though he is smaller he was very good and smart.
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by coog
Evidently I am older or perhaps smarter than the rest of you.  George Foreman was a better fighter when he came back at forty than when he was young. I really donot know why some of you donot want to give Klitschko his due. He is big strong athletic a decent defensive fighter.  and he hits hard.  why do You people think that the older fighters are stronger. they donot have the training that these younger fighters do. George did not have an extensive amatuer background however He did fight in the Olympics. George was 6'3" and 225 in his prime. vitali is 6'8" 250 and slim.  Plus George was stupid.  Evander is a different story  even though he is smaller he was very good and smart.
well u cant be that smart if u call foreman stupid i do give vitali his dues i just think foreman is better and yes older fighters are tougher its known fact well young heavyweights now have more training stuff shouldnt they be tougher and stronger and more fitter then ??
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty fucking flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
I was talking about Vitali dude....people said "Lennox Lewis hit him hard but he didn't get hit by any other power punchers"
And YES Corey Sanders he hit hard and fast
But fuck it I'm never getting through to Mr. Lords Gym who thinks Zombie Holyfield is going to be unified champion again
Please Lyle no But fucking ! ;D;) Holyfield 2007 my brother ! 5 Time Heavyweight Champion of the World. 8) O0 Cool Click for you, enjoy your endless rants about how old Evander is . 44 years young my friend ! if only the others guys were in that kinda a shape. ;)
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Corey Sanders caught him pretty F****** flush
yeah but come on Corrie Sanders??? .. Brewster caught him pretty flush also ! as did Peter . ;)
Ross Purity made him quit. Wlad is a great fighter when things are going his way.. he has a wonderful jab, and a Str8 right with mule kick power. that comes off nice and swift, but when pressed. he has had a tendency to fold his tent. His ability to rebound from the Peter knockdowns was impressive however., now we just need to see if can continue to shine even when the forecast calls for stormy skies ! and Evander can easily dial up that forecast ! ;)
I was talking about Vitali dude....people said "Lennox Lewis hit him hard but he didn't get hit by any other power punchers"
And YES Corey Sanders he hit hard and fast
But F*** it I'm never getting through to Mr. Lords Gym who thinks Zombie Holyfield is going to be unified champion again
Please Lyle no But F****** ! ;D;)
Holyfield 2007 my brother ! 5 Time Heavyweight Champion of the World. 8) O0 Cool Click for you, enjoy your endless rants about how old Evander is . 44 years young my friend ! if only the others guys were in that kinda a shape. ;)
hellllll yeahhhhh...i know some of you guys are gonna shit all over this but im goin with my heart here and making my prediction...if WK and Evander fight, Klitschko beats on him for 8 rounds then starts gettin tired. He beats on him and beats on him but cant knock him out. In the 9th round WK looks real discouraged and more than a little tired. The tenth starts much as the rest of the rounds had...totally one sided with Holyfield tryin to get inside and WK steppin back jabbing waiting to measure that right hand upside Holyfield's head. He does, but it no longer has the strength it did in the earlier rounds and does not move Holyfield back. After a few more exchanges Holyfield presses forward, jumps on an exhausted Klitschko and knocks him out at the end of the 10th round. Holyfield then is interviewed by Larry Merchant who asks him if he indeed decides to pursue the other title belts, to which Holyfield replies "Abba-dooba-dabba, baby!" Larry pauses and is about to ask what that means, but he his knocked aside by the flood of bible banging christian fundamentalists that storm the ring to thank God for Holyfield's victory. Holyfield then forgets he is champ and leaves the belt in the dressing room as he goes to get some rest before Sunday mass. John Ruiz picks it up and starts talking about how he is still the best heavyweight out there. James Toney, juiced up on steroids and twinkies shows up and bitch slaps Jawwnny Boy for saying somethin so dumb, after all, he beat Evander and Ruiz. Then he takes the belt and says the camera "I GOT MILK, NIGGAS!!!" Larry Merchant tries to ask him what this mean but he is knocked aside by Toney's entourage of thuggish ruggish types as he leaves to hit the all you can eat buffet at Caesars with the belt. Before he can get there, Norman Stone runs up and hits JT with a steel chair in the back of the head, takes the belt and hocks it for 250 bucks which he blows drinking at the bars.
Re: vitali klitschko vs prime foreman + prime holy who wins ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by coog
Evidently I am older or perhaps smarter than the rest of you. George Foreman was a better fighter when he came back at forty than when he was young. I really donot know why some of you donot want to give Klitschko his due. He is big strong athletic a decent defensive fighter. and he hits hard. why do You people think that the older fighters are stronger. they donot have the training that these younger fighters do. George did not have an extensive amatuer background however He did fight in the Olympics. George was 6'3" and 225 in his prime. vitali is 6'8" 250 and slim. Plus George was stupid. Evander is a different story even though he is smaller he was very good and smart.
well u cant be that smart if u call foreman stupid i do give vitali his dues i just think foreman is better and yes older fighters are tougher its known fact well young heavyweights now have more training stuff shouldnt they be tougher and stronger and more fitter then ??
It's a known fact that older fighters are tougher??What is that supposed to mean? ::**
