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Sweetpea,you are a good poster here but you are clutching at straws in this thread. Baldo actually once sparred with Margarito and said he was very powerful and that he had no intention of fighting him,I posted the article myself,some of the forum members may remember it.
Margarito is FAR fitter than Baldo,stays in shape all year,during the Santos fight,Manny Steward said Margaritos stamina was awesome,he sparred 13 rounds twice within a week and threw punches non stop for 2 hours. You answered your own question...Margarito only fought 2 times in a year last year,11 months apart yet he still maintained a ridiculous pace v Clottey.Margarito certainly hits harder than Baldo who is feather fisted,cuts the ring off better,works head and body well,. I'd put $$$ on Tony stopping Baldo late after punishing him for 8 or 9 rounds.
As for comparing Cotto's resume to Floyds,why? Cotto is not the one picking holes in the best fighters that have ever lived with a resume consisting of
The mighty Victoriano Sosa
Phillip N'dou.
DeMarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
Arturo Gatti .
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah went 12 rounds.
Carlos Manuel Baldomir.
Thats the resume for the last 4 years of a guy who calls himself the best fighter ever,you're fwocking joking. PBF fans need to stop nut hugging so hard and open their eyes,some of these guys were coming off losses,some were super old and some where unknown/gatekeepers!!?! Where's the dangerous fighters? Wheres a fight you can say,yeah Floyd has picked a real live challenge there. You cant because there aren't any. And don't bring up the same old Baldo is WW champ BULLSHIT,it can't have meant much to him if he's vacating it already. And you same people criticise Oleg Maskaev,another "undisputed" champion. Name me one good quality Baldo has apart from courage and tenacity?
And Cotto is only 25 I think,with his willingness to fight ANYONE regardless of names/$$$ etc,in a dangerous division such as 147,he can make a great name for himself and at least he has been fighting LIVE,HUNGRY,YOUNG fighters. People diss the Paulie win now but I can go back and show how many people thought Paulie would win.
And as for Baldo being embarressed,ummm...not really....because he won at least 2 rounds,it's not as if he was getting hammered was it,and no one expected him to win,he got his huge paycheck and must now be enjoying life. It was a win win situation for him,he even said that after the Floyd fight,he was thinking of retiring(not sure if he has gone through with it?)
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Sweetpea,you are a good poster here but you are clutching at straws in this thread.
So then you agree with "Danny G's" initial premise that Mayweather is scared of Margarito and ducked him to fight Baldomir?
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Margarito is FAR fitter than Baldo,stays in shape all year,during the Santos fight,Manny Steward said Margaritos stamina was awesome,he sparred 13 rounds twice within a week and threw punches non stop for 2 hours. You answered your own question...Margarito only fought 2 times in a year last year,11 months apart yet he still maintained a ridiculous pace v Clottey.
He was in shape when he was active. He's had long periods of inactivity now. I didn't see any "ridiculous pace" against Clottey. I saw a guy who got hit with every punch in the book for 4 rounds, and then managed to win rounds after round 4, when Clottey completely stopped throwing his left hand, be it because he had a legit injury, couldn't take pain, whatever. I still didn't see any ridiculous pace from Margarito. He just threw at a normal rate, whereas Clottey didn't in the second half of the fight.
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As for comparing Cotto's resume to Floyds,why?
That wasn't me. I've never brought up Cotto's resume. I think Cotto's resume is just fine so far.
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Thats the resume for the last 4 years of a guy who calls himself the best fighter ever,you're fwocking joking. PBF fans need to stop nut hugging so hard and open their eyes,some of these guys were coming off losses,some were super old and some where unknown/gatekeepers!!?! Where's the dangerous fighters? Wheres a fight you can say,yeah Floyd has picked a real live challenge there. You cant because there aren't any.
I've never said Floyd was right to say he was the best fighter ever. In fact, I specifically said it's stupid for him to say stuff like that. But he is the best fighter in boxing today. Floyd hasn't picked a challenge? You don't think moving up from 135 to 140 to 147 to 154 is a challenge? If it's a not a challenge, then how come only the greats are able to do it and keep winning? You don't think it would've been easier for him to just stay at 135 or 140 and dominate the smaller fighters?
You don't think DLH is a challenge? Because I think it is. Certainly a much bigger challenge than Tony Margarito. I'm sure Oscar would have quite a good laugh if someone suggested to him that Margarito was more dangerous than Oscar is.
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And don't bring up the same old Baldo is WW champ BULLSHIT,it can't have meant much to him if he's vacating it already.
Who's vacating? Mayweather is committed to fighting one fight right now at 154. He hasn't stated he's fighting there permanently. Right now, it appears that if he beats DLH, he'll be back down at 147, with his titles. Where do you get this vacating idea?
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And you same people criticise Oleg Maskaev,another "undisputed" champion.
Since when is Maskaev an undisputed champ? I think Wlad would beg to differ.
Explain what Margarito brings to the table that would make Floyd Mayweather afraid of him. So afraid that he'd rather face Oscar De La Hoya at 154 pounds, a weight at which he's never fought.
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is Danny_G one of Pretty Boy's jilted ex lovers or something... you're worse than Emma with Amir Khan... did he knock you back? Not return your calls?
No one is asking you to like PBF... for your own mental health could you get over him?
Stop talking about him... you're turning into Royal.
Who died and made you the boss of the forum? Are you now the d1ck-tator here?
Why cant I speak on Floyd? Does it bother you? Is he your lover? Your boyfriend? Do you have a g@y crush on him? Are you his protector? His defender? His knight in pink gladiator armor? Do you have posters of him in your room with little pink hearts on them? lol
I can say all I want about Floyd.
I don't think one person on this forum finds your posts about Mayweather anything but pathetic. He's completely right, get over it you victim.
I agree with Dan. I don't think Mayweather needs to talk like he does. P4Pking and Sweetpea are both very knowledgeable members of this forum but they wont ave anything bad said about floyd. IMO opinion Floyd needs a fight with a young hungry fighter in their prime right now. He aint nowhere near the greatest of all time. I like him as a fighter, he's brilliant but actually i'm off work with a sprained ankle ligament so i've been watchin a lot Floyd Mayweather fights today. He lost to Castillo without a shadow of a doubt 1st time out and
If Corley was a better finisher he could have stopped Mayweather when he had him hurt. He's far from a perfect fighter but he is one of the best out there at the minute. Top 3 P4P.
It's February 7 and already we got the stupidest comment of the year.
What's stupid about that? Take your cock out of Mayweathers arse and watch the fight.
It's obvious your dumb ass never boxed before. You get in the ring, your going to get hit. It's part of the game. It doesn't mean your close to getting knocked every time you get hit. Mayweather took a solid shot from Corley and took a step back. He didn't wobble and wasn't hurt. Floyd let Corley wing a couple of punches, tend proceeded to fire back and hurt Corley. Mayweather was never close to being stopped. To say so is just plain stupid. But considering the poster, I shouldn't be surprise.
I have boxed amatuer actually. And i have been caught and hurt and guess what my coach said to me??? 'good job that guy can't finish, cos you were in trouble'
Floyd was clearly wobbled. Thats why both commentators on the broadcast said 'Oh floyd's in trouble here, he's wobbled'
It's nice that your calling me stupid but take a look at yourself. Your a wannabe gangsta that posts on websites......Your like an American/Latino??? dumber version of Westwood
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Sweetpea,you are a good poster here but you are clutching at straws in this thread. Baldo actually once sparred with Margarito and said he was very powerful and that he had no intention of fighting him,I posted the article myself,some of the forum members may remember it.
Margarito is FAR fitter than Baldo,stays in shape all year,during the Santos fight,Manny Steward said Margaritos stamina was awesome,he sparred 13 rounds twice within a week and threw punches non stop for 2 hours. You answered your own question...Margarito only fought 2 times in a year last year,11 months apart yet he still maintained a ridiculous pace v Clottey.Margarito certainly hits harder than Baldo who is feather fisted,cuts the ring off better,works head and body well,. I'd put $$$ on Tony stopping Baldo late after punishing him for 8 or 9 rounds.
As for comparing Cotto's resume to Floyds,why? Cotto is not the one picking holes in the best fighters that have ever lived with a resume consisting of
The mighty Victoriano Sosa
Phillip N'dou.
DeMarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
Arturo Gatti .
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah went 12 rounds.
Carlos Manuel Baldomir.
Thats the resume for the last 4 years of a guy who calls himself the best fighter ever,you're fwocking joking. PBF fans need to stop nut hugging so hard and open their eyes,some of these guys were coming off losses,some were super old and some where unknown/gatekeepers!!?! Where's the dangerous fighters? Wheres a fight you can say,yeah Floyd has picked a real live challenge there. You cant because there aren't any. And don't bring up the same old Baldo is WW champ BULLSHIT,it can't have meant much to him if he's vacating it already. And you same people criticise Oleg Maskaev,another "undisputed" champion. Name me one good quality Baldo has apart from courage and tenacity?
And Cotto is only 25 I think,with his willingness to fight ANYONE regardless of names/$$$ etc,in a dangerous division such as 147,he can make a great name for himself and at least he has been fighting LIVE,HUNGRY,YOUNG fighters. People diss the Paulie win now but I can go back and show how many people thought Paulie would win.
And as for Baldo being embarressed,ummm...not really....because he won at least 2 rounds,it's not as if he was getting hammered was it,and no one expected him to win,he got his huge paycheck and must now be enjoying life. It was a win win situation for him,he even said that after the Floyd fight,he was thinking of retiring(not sure if he has gone through with it?)
Anything else?
I don't even respond to that guy no more. He thinks he's the only one that knows anything and his opinion is the only one that matters. Now he says that DLH is a real challenge. So it's the first in 5 years excluding the Judah fight which is a stretch seeeing that Zab was coming off a loss. Nobody ever said Tony was a bigger hurdle than DLH but the difference between Baldo and Margarito is like walking up a hill and climbing a mountain with Tony being the latter. The bottom line is that Floyd got his P4P status by running his mouth and people who don't pay attention actually listening. Floyd is the only guy I've seen earn the top spot without a serious threat on his resume in that amount of time. I like that video that Danny g posted that shows him hitting the bag and he said throw out some names. He had an excuse for every name with most being "he has a loss". Guess what all those guys have in common: They all took chances.
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Sweetpea,you are a good poster here but you are clutching at straws in this thread. Baldo actually once sparred with Margarito and said he was very powerful and that he had no intention of fighting him,I posted the article myself,some of the forum members may remember it.
Margarito is FAR fitter than Baldo,stays in shape all year,during the Santos fight,Manny Steward said Margaritos stamina was awesome,he sparred 13 rounds twice within a week and threw punches non stop for 2 hours. You answered your own question...Margarito only fought 2 times in a year last year,11 months apart yet he still maintained a ridiculous pace v Clottey.Margarito certainly hits harder than Baldo who is feather fisted,cuts the ring off better,works head and body well,. I'd put $$$ on Tony stopping Baldo late after punishing him for 8 or 9 rounds.
As for comparing Cotto's resume to Floyds,why? Cotto is not the one picking holes in the best fighters that have ever lived with a resume consisting of
The mighty Victoriano Sosa
Phillip N'dou.
DeMarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
Arturo Gatti .
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah went 12 rounds.
Carlos Manuel Baldomir.
Thats the resume for the last 4 years of a guy who calls himself the best fighter ever,you're fwocking joking. PBF fans need to stop nut hugging so hard and open their eyes,some of these guys were coming off losses,some were super old and some where unknown/gatekeepers!!?! Where's the dangerous fighters? Wheres a fight you can say,yeah Floyd has picked a real live challenge there. You cant because there aren't any. And don't bring up the same old Baldo is WW champ BULLSHIT,it can't have meant much to him if he's vacating it already. And you same people criticise Oleg Maskaev,another "undisputed" champion. Name me one good quality Baldo has apart from courage and tenacity?
And Cotto is only 25 I think,with his willingness to fight ANYONE regardless of names/$$$ etc,in a dangerous division such as 147,he can make a great name for himself and at least he has been fighting LIVE,HUNGRY,YOUNG fighters. People diss the Paulie win now but I can go back and show how many people thought Paulie would win.
And as for Baldo being embarressed,ummm...not really....because he won at least 2 rounds,it's not as if he was getting hammered was it,and no one expected him to win,he got his huge paycheck and must now be enjoying life. It was a win win situation for him,he even said that after the Floyd fight,he was thinking of retiring(not sure if he has gone through with it?)
Anything else?
I don't even respond to that guy no more. He thinks he's the only one that knows anything and his opinion is the only one that matters. Now he says that DLH is a real challenge. So it's the first in 5 years excluding the Judah fight which is a stretch seeeing that Zab was coming off a loss. Nobody ever said Tony was a bigger hurdle than DLH but the difference between Baldo and Margarito is like walking up a hill and climbing a mountain with Tony being the latter. The bottom line is that Floyd got his P4P status by running his mouth and people who don't pay attention actually listening. Floyd is the only guy I've seen earn the top spot without a serious threat on his resume in that amount of time. I like that video that Danny g posted that shows him hitting the bag and he said throw out some names. He had an excuse for every name with most being "he has a loss". Guess what all those guys have in common: They all took chances.
Whether you like it or not Floyd is the best in the business 4 division champ, soon to be 5 division before he is 30 years old... and is PFP#1.... If moving up in weight dosent scream I TAKE CHANCES, then what does???? Ok say Floyd stayed at 130-135lbs he was absolutely untouchable and would still be undefeated, racking up more KO's and be a Phenom.. Still would PFP#1 He is as Technically polished of a defensive and offensive fighter we have seen
Either scenario the haters are screwed cause he would still be #1 ;)
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Sweetpea,you are a good poster here but you are clutching at straws in this thread. Baldo actually once sparred with Margarito and said he was very powerful and that he had no intention of fighting him,I posted the article myself,some of the forum members may remember it.
Margarito is FAR fitter than Baldo,stays in shape all year,during the Santos fight,Manny Steward said Margaritos stamina was awesome,he sparred 13 rounds twice within a week and threw punches non stop for 2 hours. You answered your own question...Margarito only fought 2 times in a year last year,11 months apart yet he still maintained a ridiculous pace v Clottey.Margarito certainly hits harder than Baldo who is feather fisted,cuts the ring off better,works head and body well,. I'd put $$$ on Tony stopping Baldo late after punishing him for 8 or 9 rounds.
As for comparing Cotto's resume to Floyds,why? Cotto is not the one picking holes in the best fighters that have ever lived with a resume consisting of
The mighty Victoriano Sosa
Phillip N'dou.
DeMarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
Arturo Gatti .
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah went 12 rounds.
Carlos Manuel Baldomir.
Thats the resume for the last 4 years of a guy who calls himself the best fighter ever,you're fwocking joking. PBF fans need to stop nut hugging so hard and open their eyes,some of these guys were coming off losses,some were super old and some where unknown/gatekeepers!!?! Where's the dangerous fighters? Wheres a fight you can say,yeah Floyd has picked a real live challenge there. You cant because there aren't any. And don't bring up the same old Baldo is WW champ BULLSHIT,it can't have meant much to him if he's vacating it already. And you same people criticise Oleg Maskaev,another "undisputed" champion. Name me one good quality Baldo has apart from courage and tenacity?
And Cotto is only 25 I think,with his willingness to fight ANYONE regardless of names/$$$ etc,in a dangerous division such as 147,he can make a great name for himself and at least he has been fighting LIVE,HUNGRY,YOUNG fighters. People diss the Paulie win now but I can go back and show how many people thought Paulie would win.
And as for Baldo being embarressed,ummm...not really....because he won at least 2 rounds,it's not as if he was getting hammered was it,and no one expected him to win,he got his huge paycheck and must now be enjoying life. It was a win win situation for him,he even said that after the Floyd fight,he was thinking of retiring(not sure if he has gone through with it?)
Anything else?
I don't even respond to that guy no more. He thinks he's the only one that knows anything and his opinion is the only one that matters. Now he says that DLH is a real challenge. So it's the first in 5 years excluding the Judah fight which is a stretch seeeing that Zab was coming off a loss. Nobody ever said Tony was a bigger hurdle than DLH but the difference between Baldo and Margarito is like walking up a hill and climbing a mountain with Tony being the latter. The bottom line is that Floyd got his P4P status by running his mouth and people who don't pay attention actually listening. Floyd is the only guy I've seen earn the top spot without a serious threat on his resume in that amount of time. I like that video that Danny g posted that shows him hitting the bag and he said throw out some names. He had an excuse for every name with most being "he has a loss". Guess what all those guys have in common: They all took chances.
Whether you like it or not Floyd is the best in the business 4 division champ, soon to be 5 division before he is 30 years old... and is PFP#1.... If moving up in weight dosent scream I TAKE CHANCES, then what does???? Ok say Floyd stayed at 130-135lbs he was absolutely untouchable and would still be undefeated, racking up more KO's and be a Phenom.. Still would PFP#1 He is as Technically polished of a defensive and offensive fighter we have seen
Either scenario the haters are screwed cause he would still be #1 ;)
I don't take nothing away from him as far as skill goes and I've said this many times before. What I'm saying is that on his way up, he's taking the easiest route possible.
Let me give you an example: Everyone says how Tito was one dimensional and in some ways I agree because he never adjusted when he fought DLH, Hopkins and Winky but he had about 15 title defences at WW, and fought and beat many guys that were undefeated before Oscar decided to take a chance with them and when he moved up, not only did he take the biggest challenges out there, he won in decisive fashion and that didn't earn him the #1 p4p spot. Floyd has moved up but look at his resume the last few years. I'm not impressed.
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I don't even respond to that guy no more. He thinks he's the only one that knows anything and his opinion is the only one that matters.
Wow, this couldn't be farther from the truth. If I thought I was the only one here that knew anything, I wouldn't spend hours each day posting here and talking boxing. There are plenty of people here who know a lot, they're the ones who back up their arguments with logic and evidence.
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Regarding Trinidad in comparison to Mayweather.
First off, much respect to Trinidad, he definitely did take on tough guys as he moved up. In fact, his undoing was that he bit off more than he could chew, fighting Hopkins in only his second fight at 160, only two years after he had been fighting at 147. Trinidad definitely fought the top guys out there.
But how is Mayweather not fighting the best? He's moving up to 154, a new weight class, and fighting DLH. Can someone name a fighter at 154 who is better than DLH? I can't think of one.
Trinidad's first fight at 154 was against David Reid, who had 14 pro fights under his belt and had fought poorly in his last few bouts before facing Trinidad. Does anyone think that David Reid was a tougher opponent than DLH?
Trinidad's second fight at 154 was against Mamadou Thiam. Was Thiam any better than the guys Mayweather has fought recently?
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SweetPea, yes Oscar or Shane.
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SweetPea, yes Oscar or Shane.
Which question are you answering?
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Nice debate here.....
I'd joint but looks to me like Danny_G & El Gamo got this one......
oh! thanks for cleaning up the insults & shit talking...... :)
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SweetPea, no question that Oscar is a good challenge for Floyd. He is the best fighter Floyd has ever faced (even though Oscar ain't exactly in his prime). I can respect Floyd for this fight. My point is...that he needs to continue to fight great opposition before he, or anyone else, simply says he is the best. Because i for one sure ain't impressed with wins over guys like Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, and even Judah. Can Floyd fight much better fighters and beat them? Absolutely. Oscar is a good start. But until he fights and wins against much better opponents...i reserve judgment in calling him the best boxer in the world.
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Regarding Trinidad in comparison to Mayweather.
First off, much respect to Trinidad, he definitely did take on tough guys as he moved up. In fact, his undoing was that he bit off more than he could chew, fighting Hopkins in only his second fight at 160, only two years after he had been fighting at 147. Trinidad definitely fought the top guys out there.
But how is Mayweather not fighting the best? He's moving up to 154, a new weight class, and fighting DLH. Can someone name a fighter at 154 who is better than DLH? I can't think of one.
Trinidad's first fight at 154 was against David Reid, who had 14 pro fights under his belt and had fought poorly in his last few bouts before facing Trinidad. Does anyone think that David Reid was a tougher opponent than DLH?
Trinidad's second fight at 154 was against Mamadou Thiam. Was Thiam any better than the guys Mayweather has fought recently?
Ok, you baited me in.
Tito fought those guys and then Vargas all in that 1 year period when he moved up. I give Floyd credit for taking the fight with Oscar especially since it's at 154 but how long did we have to wait for this and how long will we have to wait for him to fight another meaningful fight? I can't help it....I'm just not one of those guys that buys into hype and believes that someone is the best just cause HBO or so-called experts say he is. I have to see it in the ring against great, hungry opposition and not these hopeless guys he's been fighting.
The thing Floyd's fans need to understand is that nobody's is denying his skill. Right away Floyd fans say things like "but who has your guy fought or this or that" but the bottom line is that those other guys are not calling themselves p4p #1 and saying they are better than SRR and Ali.............(sorry, I needed a few seconds to chuckle) and he always has an excuse on why he shouldn't fight them. Any fighter that takes on that p4p status has to realize that it comes with extra responsibility like fighting top tier fighters to prove you belong where you are.
Not only did he do it right after he got the recognition, but he didn't even do it to get the recognition. Atleast no in the ring.
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Tito fought those guys and then Vargas all in that 1 year period when he moved up. I give Floyd credit for taking the fight with Oscar especially since it's at 154 but how long did we have to wait for this and how long will we have to wait for him to fight another meaningful fight? I can't help it....I'm just not one of those guys that buys into hype and believes that someone is the best just cause HBO or so-called experts say he is. I have to see it in the ring against great, hungry opposition and not these hopeless guys he's been fighting.
The thing Floyd's fans need to understand is that nobody's is denying his skill. Right away Floyd fans say things like "but who has your guy fought or this or that" but the bottom line is that those other guys are not calling themselves p4p #1 and saying they are better than SRR and Ali.............(sorry, I needed a few seconds to chuckle) and he always has an excuse on why he shouldn't fight them. Any fighter that takes on that p4p status has to realize that it comes with extra responsibility like fighting top tier fighters to prove you belong where you are.
Not only did he do it right after he got the recognition, but he didn't even do it to get the recognition. Atleast no in the ring.
CC for a quality post.
I know it seems like it's taken forever for Floyd to be in a big megafight, but he's still only 29 years old. I don't have the time to break it down right now (I will later), but it's not that uncommon for fighters to not have their first huge fight until 29 or 30. Many times, the big fights that define a fighter's legacy occur between the ages of 29-33 or 34.
I think that Mayweather is clearly the #1 PFP fighter in the world, but to look at your argument that he hasn't fought enough quality, hungry opponents....
If Floyd beats DLH, and then goes back down to 147 and beats Mosley later this year, would you consider him #1 at that point?
If that's not enough for you, which opponent out there would he have to beat after DLH to be #1 PFP?
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Tito fought those guys and then Vargas all in that 1 year period when he moved up. I give Floyd credit for taking the fight with Oscar especially since it's at 154 but how long did we have to wait for this and how long will we have to wait for him to fight another meaningful fight? I can't help it....I'm just not one of those guys that buys into hype and believes that someone is the best just cause HBO or so-called experts say he is. I have to see it in the ring against great, hungry opposition and not these hopeless guys he's been fighting.
The thing Floyd's fans need to understand is that nobody's is denying his skill. Right away Floyd fans say things like "but who has your guy fought or this or that" but the bottom line is that those other guys are not calling themselves p4p #1 and saying they are better than SRR and Ali.............(sorry, I needed a few seconds to chuckle) and he always has an excuse on why he shouldn't fight them. Any fighter that takes on that p4p status has to realize that it comes with extra responsibility like fighting top tier fighters to prove you belong where you are.
Not only did he do it right after he got the recognition, but he didn't even do it to get the recognition. Atleast no in the ring.
CC for a quality post.
I know it seems like it's taken forever for Floyd to be in a big megafight, but he's still only 29 years old. I don't have the time to break it down right now (I will later), but it's not that uncommon for fighters to not have their first huge fight until 29 or 30. Many times, the big fights that define a fighter's legacy occur between the ages of 29-33 or 34.
I think that Mayweather is clearly the #1 PFP fighter in the world, but to look at your argument that he hasn't fought enough quality, hungry opponents....
If Floyd beats DLH, and then goes back down to 147 and beats Mosley later this year, would you consider him #1 at that point?
If that's not enough for you, which opponent out there would he have to beat after DLH to be #1 PFP?
See that's where people get the wrong idea about what I say. I would definitely give him his props as long as he earns them. It's just that up until this point, it's been more talk than action. Even if he loses a fight or two against guys who are too big for him and then he comes back down and dominates at a more natural weight against the best at the weight, that won't make me lose respect or talk bad about him as long as he's taking chances. Right now I can't see him ahead of Winky or Pac cause we all know how they perform against the best wether it's win, lose or draw. Thanks for forcing the response. I just thought you were like a couple of knuckleheads around here. Peace.
