Re: Media mainstream sportscenter starts show with mma vs boxing debate
Monkey you make yourself sound like an idjit
how about some quality observations
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Originally Posted by CFH
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
As far as putting on a show for the fans, going out of its way to give something back, the UFC is single handedly destroying boxing. I went to UFC 70, and on the Friday I attended the weigh in, met all the fighters, and at the after party Dana White bought a beer for 80 guys, including myself, my seat in the arena was terrific and it was £120 for the weekend. I went to Calzaghe v Lacy and the weigh-in was closed, nothing but a big F*** you, and my seat in the same block was £315. Can you see why its making all the money? They give a lot back to the fans, boxing gives us a cock up our a**.
Great post man. CC. Boxing has treated its fans like mindless pieces of S*** for way too long, the mindset of most promoters in boxing seems to be that we should be happy to eat whatever bullshit they are feeding us, and tough for us if we don't like it. Rather than the differences between the sports, that above all else is probably what is propelling UFC above boxing in the casual fans mind. Look at the difference between the Contender and the Ultimate Fighter - one has a glossy, manipulated, and ultimately phony product, the other is as real as it gets. I honestly prefer the Contender, because of my love for boxing, but there is no doubt which is the better, more honest show. That in itself is a microcosm of what is wrong with our beloved sport.
Mma won't hurt boxing, it can only make it better. Boxing still has a huge and i mean HUGE fanbase despite all of its current problems. Boxing being in a state of dispair (as you would cal it) is the only thing giving the ufc a chance.
Re: Dibella and Rogan fighting over UFC and boxing on Sportscenter
Now that you got your national media attention you've always been looking for have fun with the backlash of having every dui, and domestic dispute reported between your fighters. Have fun when other organizations try to out do the ufc and corruption comes about like in all things. The only reason it hasn't fallen off is because it wasn't in position to take a fall. Now that its on this national pedestal of glory prepare to endure the things boxing has had to over the past many many years, hope you make it out in one peice ;D
Re: Media mainstream sportscenter starts show with mma vs boxing debate
I love both boxing and MMA. Then again, I am a former college/high school wrestler...and hella frustrated most of the time.
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I just thought i'd announce to everyone that the ufc will be doomed in a few years because i've come up with one better. Something so entertaining and violent nothing could compete with its fanbase. I now present to you the blueprints for Extreme Punishment Fighting:
All events will occur in norway and inbewteen rounds the music played will be that of ramstein, Demuborgir, and The Death Spiders (a death metal band from norway that only plays The scorpians and 50cent covers)
First of all octagons are for pussies our non title fights take place in the TRAPazoid of terror
(for those geometrically challenged) _______ (a rectangle that narrows to a square top)
/ \
/_________\
This Geometric ring of Gigantic terror (which is surrond by barbed wire fencing) will house battlebotesque obstacles such as periodically throwing thumbtacs into a ringside fan, opening the ring floor to a series of snakes and bear traps (non poisonous snakes and dulled down bear traps because we care about the safety of our fighters ;D) and some other crazy stuff i can't list here. All fights have a 1 round 20 minute time limit
Now comes the title fights that take place in the Skull of Doom. The structure is a Huge skull shaped ring covered in razor wire fencing that has no hazards like the TRAPazoid of Terror but it does have a pyrotechnic rig that shoots a huge pillar of flames in the air everytime someone is slammed on the ring. Around the ring are a bunch of female strippers (completely nude for ppv events) and all fights have a one round 36 minute time limit.
Yeah you better hope i dont get my hands on a couple mil and a flight to norway.
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Its funny how the close minded boxing fan mentions about mma being brutal and overly violent. But then post a vid of tne most brutal knockouts in boxing and the best part is that in those matches the guy probably took 100s of punchs before the one that knocked him out. In many mma matches there is a chess match of grappling and an arm lock where the fight is stopped before any injury occurs. It sounds like some of you can't figure it out becouse its too complicated or your really homiphobic which is funny becouse in boxing in the clinch don't they put there heads right up against each others and maybe hold each other. Of course its rediculous and you should really grow up becouse when your arguements turn into predgudice it just highlights your lack of intelegents.
Re: Dibella and Rogan fighting over UFC and boxing on Sportscenter
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Joe Rogan is a jackass......though DiBella ain't far off.
I hate MMA and I think Floyd Mayweather Jr is correct in some sense about the people who participate in MMA.
There are FAILED BOXERS in MMA, and there are extremely successful TKD, collegiate wrestlers, kick boxers etc in MMA as well.....that being said the failed boxers do win their fair share of matches.
But I will not be caught ENJOYING 2 guys rolling around on the ground trying for the "ground and pound"....you know what, skip the middle man people and go put on skirts, grab your purse, and make with the hair pulling and scratching.....you sicken me MMA fighters! All the tribal tats in the world won't make you more bad a** than the boxers of yesterday and more importantly today!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Just an interesting fact.
Ray Mercer former heavyweight world boxing champ has turned to MMA. He is currently 0-2
Matt Skelton former K-1 champ turned pro boxing at 35 is currently 20-1
Discuss.
OLD Mercer fought Remy Bojansky....a kicker.....and some Musashi guy
Skelton hasn't fought anyone of note besides fat Danny Williams
What about Botha?
He hasn't done too well in MMA either. It's because it's a different skillset. It's ridiculous to argue who has better athletes.
As far as promotion and organization. MMA is light years ahead of boxing. That is why MMA is growing. It's leadership and promotion and organization. Boxing is fragmented in all those areas. The disparity between a top fighter and an average fighter is horrible. You got guys that make 10 Mill for one fight, and guys that make $500 bucks. It is both the richest and poorest. That's because of no organization. UFC guys aren't making $10 mil for a fight, but their lowest guy doesn't make $500. They have their shit together in that department.
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Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
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more rounds more time that doesn't equal better condition I've seen many champ boxers take half the rounds off it just makes it more like a marithon than a sprint. So by your logic a marithon runner is more of an athlete that Carl Lewis. And why are u proud ofsomeone dying in the ring ???
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from
there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes? There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from
there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes? There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot
-1 right back at yeah. For one its not a intolerant opinion on the stereotypical generalizing of these men.....if you can call them men. I'm sure you watch The Ultimate Fighter on spike TV. Those jagoffs are so low class they cant keep it in the ring.They will fight in the house of the man that will maybee be signing their paychecks.And no one gets in between before something happens.All I see is wrestlers you are full of them self's who cant throw or take a punch.There hands aren't fast enough to slap a guy with a left hook or a short upper cut when he tries to chute.Those shows are full of them.Watch the first and second contender and compare them to the Chris Lebins who urinate on peoples pillows and get drunk and make complete idiots of them self's.Hell, compare the two houses and get back with me. Another thing I'm not a bigot. I'm from Ohio not Texas.
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from
there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes? There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot
No worries Van Man.. Me and you have been on Saddo's for about the same time.... And trying to educate people against there predjudices, Ignorance and falsehoods against MMA is futile.... MOst people who put down MMA dont know a gotdam thing about it and wind up looking like complete A-Holes to people who know the ins and outs of the sport. Entertainment value is always subjective and thats fine but, when people are just straight up idiotic and lacking real perception, I just dont waste my time anymore. If they want to sound like uneducated street urchins thats fine by me ;)
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from
there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes? There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot
No worries Van Man.. Me and you have been on Saddo's for about the same time.... And trying to educate people against there predjudices, Ignorance and falsehoods against MMA is futile.... MOst people who put down MMA dont know a gotdam thing about it and wind up looking like complete A-Holes to people who know the ins and outs of the sport. Entertainment value is always subjective and thats fine but, when people are just straight up idiotic and lacking real perception, I just dont waste my time anymore. If they want to sound like uneducated street urchins thats fine by me ;)
So you watch the lastest t.v series of this show and agree these guys fighting in the house provided by the owner of UFC are class acts.I'm sorry to so idiotic and so ignorant to say these perfect gentlemen are complete jerks.God send me to the fiery pits for having such a biased opinion on something that is so obvious.
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds
What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where  three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from
there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.
So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes?  There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot
No worries Van Man.. Me and you have been on Saddo's for about the same time.... And trying to educate people against there predjudices, Ignorance and falsehoods against MMA is futile.... MOst people who put down MMA dont know a gotdam thing about it and wind up looking like complete A-Holes to people who know the ins and outs of the sport. Entertainment value is always subjective and thats fine but, when people are just straight up idiotic and lacking real perception, I just dont waste my time anymore. If they want to sound like uneducated street urchins thats fine by me ;)
So you watch the lastest t.v series of this show and agree these guys fighting in the house provided by the owner of UFC are class acts.I'm sorry to so idiotic and so ignorant to say these perfect gentlemen are complete jerks.God send me to the fiery pits for having such a biased opinion on something that is so obvious.
Thanks for the :sadclick: I wont retaliate though ;) But who gives a flying fuk if they hump  pigeons in the park during there freetime... What the hell does it have to do with their skill set and abiltiy to take a punch... Are you for real???  I'm covered in tats and train in MMA so when you offend the sport you are offending me.. Tell you what I dare you to tell Leban what you think of him and the sport he dedicates himself, trains and bleeds..
I'm sure he would do the same that I would.. See what your really made of and if you are even in a position to run your yap  :-X 
9x out of 10 the critics are nothing more than keyboard jockeys that think they know something because they saw it on TV or they know someone who trains, so it makes them a tough guy and an expert :beat:
