Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Makes yet another attempt to explain the size of America to British fight fans who just arent getting it.
I live in WV,go check a map,Im originally from Philadelphia,its an 8 hour drive minimum to visit my home town
The only three fights Bernard has had,at home ,in the last 4 years where Joppy,Tarver,and Hakkar
The Staples Center in LA is 3000 miles away from Philly,he's fought 5 times during that period in Las Vegas,over 2000 miles from Philadelphia
I guess they keep having him back because he cant draw,very good buisness sense,how do they stay open I wonder
Cardiff to London is what,a little over 100 miles,you can do that in a few hours easy,even in a Morris Miner,or a Cooper Mini,it takes longer to fly to Vegas from Philly
And again the question was asked did Ricky's fans at the Mayweather fight hurt him
Well guess what,long term,their actions did
Calzaghe 0 fights in Las Vegas,ever
Hopkins,5 since 2003
Man, this culture clash comes up time and time and time again. Most people will readily admit that the US is much, much bigger than the UK, and that fact is nowhere near being disputed.
However, because of that fact there is an immense travelling culture in the US whereas in the UK people don't tend to travel around the country so much. People can go a whole life without leaving their area more than five or six times, and although the populus is more mobile than it was 25 years ago, it is still generally a fact that most of the population in Cardiff won't travel to London except on very rare occasions.
Added to this is the exorbitant cost of transport. A return flight from Glasgow to London, only a few hundred miles can't be got for less than £150, whilst a return flight from Philly to Las Vegas starts from around £100 for the same period, so to look purely at the size of nations isn't really a comparison. The cost of fuel here at around 5 or 6 times that in the US is also a preventative factor.
People really dont travel as much as youd think here
Yeah you'll get guys traveling on buisness,and many moons ago youd get people traveling for vacation,but thats about it
It costs a fortune to travel here as well,getting a second ticket for a cornerman when I have a fight booked is like pulling teeth,Ive had promoters choke at the price of just flying a fighter to where the fight is.Usually I have any of my fighters driving 3 hours just to get to the most reasonable airport.
This country has no real national image,the British Isles have way more of one.The country is just too darned big.
Somebody from Georgia has as much in common with someone from Oregon as you have with someone from Iraq
Not to mention its a nation of immigrants,so you get all kinds of regional things based on ethnicity. A guy from Arizona may think Polish jokes are funny,but that will get your butt whipped in Western PA.
A guy in NYC expects a Knish and a Falafel to be on sale on every street corner,you cant get a real Knish anywhere in Chicago
Speaking of Illinois,those people cant cook,the most inedible meal I was ever hungry enough to pick at was in the Midway airport,when Feur was in illinois for a fight recently,she came back complaining about the food sure enough
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
British fans pack out stadiums all the time, u dont see the american fans showing the same support for there boys do you!
Can some one explain to me why that is???
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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British fans pack out stadiums all the time, u dont see the american fans showing the same support for there boys do you!
Can some one explain to me why that is???
I would offer that there is a more diverse interest in all things (not just counting sports) which makes interest in any one event hard to generate mass anticipation. I would also liked to blame Don King for almost everything from economic (housing woes) in the U.S. to the War on Terror.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Go and learn to spell.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
Fuk Hopkins.... I hope Calzaghe kicks the shet out of that prejudice prick
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
No way Calzaghe will have as many fans as Hatton had come to the US to see him fight.
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Go and learn to spell.
What has spelling got to do with anything?
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Go and learn to spell.
What has spelling got to do with anything?
It doesn't. He's losing this debate badly and doesn't have anything useful worth saying any more. So he's picking on your spelling.
Re: Hopkins - Calzaghe "signed by next week"
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Go and learn to spell.
What has spelling got to do with anything?
It doesn't. He's losing this debate badly and doesn't have anything useful worth saying any more. So he's picking on your spelling.
My spelling was perfect apart from using u unstead of you.
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Anyone even considering that Joe C fighting outside of his comfort zone in Las Vegas may have an effect on his performance?
He effectively fought abroad a dozen times before he fought Eubank for the world title. He faced an English crowd and their gentle behaviour a dozen times which is like Hopkins fighting a dozen times in Mexico before he fought for the world title. Since then he defended his title abroad twice, once in Germany, and there's a history of violence there too.
Joe's fans are going to outnumber Bernard's like Ricky's did Floyd's. British fans sing too and there'll be a band over there as well, so it's going to be a British football ground atmosphere. Hopkins is just taking the fight for the biggest-possible final payday.
Did it help Ricky?
Did it hurt him?
Well he lost his 0, was obviously upset and put of his gameplan, and got KTFO. I'd say it didnt have a positive effect on him.
Whether it had a positive efect or not, it certainly didn't have a negative effect. He didn't walk into the arena to be confronted by thousands of rabid Mayweather fans. But you're changing the subject again. You were originally asking (at the start of this very post) whether Joe fighting in Vegas would have a negative effect.
Well how can it possibly have a postive effect. The biggest fight of his career is the first time he has fought a decent opponent outside the UK. Judges and ref are more likely to sway towards Hopkins, his usual routine will be upset as he'll be training in a different place, the fans wont be as one sided as usual. How can it possibly have a positive effect?
It's not an argument I was making. It's something you changed the subject to.
So u agree with me?
Go and learn to spell.
What has spelling got to do with anything?
It doesn't. He's losing this debate badly and doesn't have anything useful worth saying any more. So he's picking on your spelling.
My spelling was perfect apart from using u unstead of you.
Like I said he ain't got nothing useful to say. He never does.
