Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Yeah they are massive compared to Pac. Now tell me what they all weighed in at o nfight night. I guarantee Pac was as heavy if not heavier than the lot considering he finds it easier to shed weight. They dont back up shit.
Im talking about who is a naturally bigger stronger guy. Cotto and Margarito weighed the same at the weigh in of their fight but Margo is far larger naturally. God u make a fool of yourself.
Why laughed on the 1 lb. difference? You want a 4 lbs. difference? That's already 1 division apart !! This only shows that you're also an ignorant boxing fan...
When I gave you facts (recorded facts), you only laughed and then ask for some vague info. No one is keeping official record of fight night weights...
I'm sticking to my point that Morales is always bigger than PAC... If they will weigh-in today, I'm 99% sure Morales weighs heavier than PAC...
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Are you shittin me??? You were one of the main guys bragging that when Pac fought at 130 he rehydrated to 147, and now because he weighed 1lb less on the scale that he wasnt the bigger guy come fight night..:rolleyes:
Really? You must have mistaken me for somebody else... Kindly post the link to that post coz I don't really remember bragging about that... :confused:
I didn't even brag PAC's victory over Hoya when I'm one of the few who picked PAC to win... :confused:
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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Funny... PAC is bigger stronger guy and carries far more muscle than Morales, Marquez and Barrera ?? I think EM, JMM and MAB will not ever accept that PAC is stronger than them... Faster maybe but not stronger...
More muscles ?? PAC is cheating coz he carries far more muscles than everybody else... LOL
Here's your original statement:
"Pac is naturally bigger than MArquez, Barrera, and Morales, but Pacfans didnt see that as a problem when he fought them...."
PAC is never a bigger guy specially compared to Morales...
BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy...
Well why are u and evry other Pac fan around going on about how great Pacs achievment of fighting and beating the bigger ODLH is? Acoording to your quote:
"BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy."
In saying that u say that in fact Pac did not even beat a bigger guy, they were the same size cos they decided to fight at the same weight....
Of course 2 guys can be fighting in same division and one can be far bigger than the other. If Pac fought Paul WIlliams at 147 he'd be far smaller.
I dunno know... I never bragged how my pick of Pacquiao to beat Hoya became a reality... I think I only stick to one point before and after the fight that PAC's speed kills Hoya...
When 2 guys agreed to fight in a certain agreed weight, size is no more a reason or an excuse for defeat... Did you hear defeated guys saying "Oh I lost to a bigger opponent"? None... nada... Size is not a factor or an issue to the warring boxers since they both agreed to fight... It's the fans who use size as a reason (or excuse) why his boy lost...
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Bullshit. Heaps of fighters and their entourage use size as an excuse after a fight. Hatton did after the PBF fight, Wright did after the Hopkins fight, Margarito did against Santos.
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
Well why are u and evry other Pac fan around going on about how great Pacs achievment of fighting and beating the bigger ODLH is? Acoording to your quote:
"BTW, when two guys agreed to fight at a certain agreed weight, there's no more questioning on who is the bigger guy... Both of them believes that he has what it takes to beat the other guy."
In saying that u say that in fact Pac did not even beat a bigger guy, they were the same size cos they decided to fight at the same weight....
Of course 2 guys can be fighting in same division and one can be far bigger than the other. If Pac fought Paul WIlliams at 147 he'd be far smaller.
I dunno know... I never bragged how my pick of Pacquiao to beat Hoya became a reality... I think I only stick to one point before and after the fight that PAC's speed kills Hoya...
When 2 guys agreed to fight in a certain agreed weight, size is no more a reason or an excuse for defeat... Did you hear defeated guys saying "Oh I lost to a bigger opponent"? None... nada... Size is not a factor or an issue to the warring boxers since they both agreed to fight... It's the fans who use size as a reason (or excuse) why his boy lost...
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Bullshit. Heaps of fighters and their entourage use size as an excuse after a fight. Hatton did after the PBF fight, Wright did after the Hopkins fight, Margarito did against Santos.
Haha ;D I can't imagine Hatton, Winky and Margo saying "Ohh I lost to so and so because he's so bigger than me..." That sounds so gay... :lolhaha:
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
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I dunno know... I never bragged how my pick of Pacquiao to beat Hoya became a reality... I think I only stick to one point before and after the fight that PAC's speed kills Hoya...
When 2 guys agreed to fight in a certain agreed weight, size is no more a reason or an excuse for defeat... Did you hear defeated guys saying "Oh I lost to a bigger opponent"? None... nada... Size is not a factor or an issue to the warring boxers since they both agreed to fight... It's the fans who use size as a reason (or excuse) why his boy lost...
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Bullshit. Heaps of fighters and their entourage use size as an excuse after a fight. Hatton did after the PBF fight, Wright did after the Hopkins fight, Margarito did against Santos.
Haha ;D I can't imagine Hatton, Winky and Margo saying "Ohh I lost to so and so because he's so bigger than me..." That sounds so gay... :lolhaha:
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They all did, use the size as an excuse. If u knew anything about boxing u would have heard about it. Pity u live so far up Pacmans ass u dont hear a lot of fight news.
Hatton said 147 wasnt his weight and it gave PBF too much advantage, Winky said 170 was too high in weight for him , and Margo said that the reason he struggled v Santos is because on fight night Daniel weighed 10 pounds more.
Wrong again fanboy. Notice how i get loads of positive rep from knowledgable guys on here and u get fukk all anless its from another pacfan? Saying something to u?
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eagle
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eagle
Bullshit. Heaps of fighters and their entourage use size as an excuse after a fight. Hatton did after the PBF fight, Wright did after the Hopkins fight, Margarito did against Santos.
Haha ;D I can't imagine Hatton, Winky and Margo saying "Ohh I lost to so and so because he's so bigger than me..." That sounds so gay... :lolhaha:
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They all did, use the size as an excuse. If u knew anything about boxing u would have heard about it. Pity u live so far up Pacmans ass u dont hear a lot of fight news.
Hatton said 147 wasnt his weight and it gave PBF too much advantage, Winky said 170 was too high in weight for him , and Margo said that the reason he struggled v Santos is because on fight night Daniel weighed 10 pounds more.
Wrong again fanboy. Notice how i get loads of positive rep from knowledgable guys on here and u get fukk all anless its from another pacfan? Saying something to u?
Huh? They did really said that?? Hatton, Winky and Margarito said they lost because they're so small compared to their respective opponent?? OK I got no problem with that... It's just an acceptance that they made a mistake accepting a fight against a "bigger" guy and they just accepted that they don't have anything else to defeat a "bigger" guy... Props to them for accepting the reality... Most defeated boxers will just say "he lost to the better man" or "he was not himself that night"... Kudos to Hatton, Winky and Margarito for accepting that they lost because their opponent is so much bigger than them...
Saying "you lost because your opponent is much bigger than you" even you knew beforehand that that opponent is really bigger than you is unimaginable for warrior boxers like Hatton, Winky and Margarito... They showed so much class in accepting defeat because the other guy is so big and they made an error before the fight, thinking they have other skills to defeat the "bigger" guy... So much class showed in accepting that they don't have what it takes to defeat the "bigger" opponent...
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
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nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Yeah i noticed that too ;)
You know what? when i 1st came here i posted something about pac beating MAB in the 1st fight.
Someone immediately jump on me (She's a mod now ;) ) and said "We have more boxing knowledge than you"
now some 5 years later. despite proving it with all the accomplishment of PAC and them seeing it with their own eyes how pac performed in the ring. we pac fans "Still dont know anything about boxing" because we know how good pac is ;D
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nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Yeah i noticed that too ;)
You know what? when i 1st came here i posted something about pac beating MAB in the 1st fight.
Someone immediately jump on me (She's a mod now ;) ) and said "We have more boxing knowledge than you"
now some 5 years later. despite proving it with all the accomplishment of PAC and them seeing it with their own eyes how pac performed in the ring. we pac fans "Still dont know anything about boxing" because we know how good pac is ;D
Amen... Mr. "THE Nuthugger" ... ;D
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nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Yeah i noticed that too ;)
You know what? when i 1st came here i posted something about pac beating MAB in the 1st fight.
Someone immediately jump on me (She's a mod now ;) ) and said "We have more boxing knowledge than you"
now some 5 years later. despite proving it with all the accomplishment of PAC and them seeing it with their own eyes how pac performed in the ring. we pac fans "Still dont know anything about boxing" because we know how good pac is ;D
Amen... Mr. "THE Nuthugger" ... ;D
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Pacfans dwell on what happened inside the ring
Pachaters dwell on what happened outside the ring before the fight :D
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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brucelee
nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
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nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Really MOD Mick repped and supported your arguments? Well, each of us here have our own opinions... Be it you, MOD Mick, ICB or CHF's opinion, I respect that... What I did is just to point out your statement which I consider incorrect... It's up to you to back up your statement but I tell you, it's not good to broadcast that you have the correct opinion because you have the backing of misters so and so.... We're all the same here... Our opinions are all of equal weight...
Even words from known boxing writers or boxing personalities are not taken as absolutely correct everytime...
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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brucelee
nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Really MOD Mick repped and supported your arguments? Well, each of us here have our own opinions... Be it you, MOD Mick, ICB or CHF's opinion, I respect that... What I did is just to point out your statement which I consider incorrect... It's up to you to back up your statement but I tell you, it's not good to broadcast that you have the correct opinion because you have the backing of misters so and so.... We're all the same here... Our opinions are all of equal weight...
Even words from known boxing writers or boxing personalities are not taken as absolutely correct everytime...
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But you'd trust the knowledge of experts over rabid one eyed nut hugging fanboys anyday of the week. U are only having a go at me cos i have had a go at Pac, if id written the same about any other fighter u wouldnt have written a thing! Cos your a fanboy not a boxing fan.
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eagle
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eagle
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Really MOD Mick repped and supported your arguments? Well, each of us here have our own opinions... Be it you, MOD Mick, ICB or CHF's opinion, I respect that... What I did is just to point out your statement which I consider incorrect... It's up to you to back up your statement but I tell you, it's not good to broadcast that you have the correct opinion because you have the backing of misters so and so.... We're all the same here... Our opinions are all of equal weight...
Even words from known boxing writers or boxing personalities are not taken as absolutely correct everytime...
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But you'd trust the knowledge of experts over rabid one eyed nut hugging fanboys anyday of the week. U are only having a go at me cos i have had a go at Pac, if id written the same about any other fighter u wouldnt have written a thing! Cos your a fanboy not a boxing fan.
My issue with you is only this statement of yours which I consider incorrect:
"Pac is naturally bigger than MArquez, Barrera, and Morales, but Pacfans didnt see that as a problem when he fought them...."
I still think Morales is always bigger than Pacquiao... unless you can convince me otherwise but you have not done so...
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eagle
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brucelee
nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Haha ;D This is so funny... You're thinking you got the more sensible point because you have the backing of misters so and so ?? And you're very proud to announce it to the whole board / forum that misters so and so positive rep you or supported you... You're funny man... ;D Can't you just back up your point without dragging other names here ?? In the first place, it's you who issued that statement...
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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brucelee
nice arguments there Filipino boxing fans. You have given proofs and facts and that should be enough for your adversaries. I've been reading the pages and you have proven your points very well.:cool:
Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Haha ;D This is so funny... You're thinking you got the more sensible point because you have the backing of misters so and so ?? And you're very proud to announce it to the whole board / forum that misters so and so positive rep you or supported you... You're funny man... ;D Can't you just back up your point without dragging other names here ?? In the first place, it's you who issued that statement...
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Ok ok.
Pacqiauo consistently weighs in at over 140 lbs on fight night, far hevier than Morales, Barrera, and Marquez do.
Marquez fought for years at 126 and moved up to 130 to fight PAc, so that would suggest he is naturally smaller, as would the fact that Pac looked much bigger and stronger and weighed heavier when he fought at lightweight than Marquez did.
Barrera's best years were arguably at superbantam, and did not move up to 130 until he was at 31. Manny started fighting at 130 aged 26 and at almost 30 he fought at 147 and looked fine doing so. Barrera loks bloated and fat at 135 yet Manny looks ripped and muscular at 140+ which suggests he is a naturally bigger guy.
As for Morales did u even see him fight at 135, he also looked chubby, and did not carry the weight at all well. Yes he is 1.5 inches taller than Pac but his frame is not even close to the size of Manny's and he could never look fit fighting at high 140's like Pac did.
All i have written is true, and the reason i mentioned guys such as Cutmemick, ICB and CFH is that they know enough about boxingto see what i am saying is pretty right, and all your doing is hating on someone who dares suggest anything negative about Pac.
