Re: did we miss something with the hatton mayweather fight?
anyone think that Ricky can win the rematch if it happens in the uk?
I think it will be close for the first few rounds like the last fight but i can still only see PBF winning, but i see Hatton making the final bell this time as long as he does'nt lose his cool like last time out.He lost it big time and went gung how at floyd which left him open and with Floyds speed he took the chance and he blow Ricky away very impressively.As long as he doesnt do the same thats why i see him making the final bell.
Re: did we miss something with the hatton mayweather fight?
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Pacstraightleft
Marvin Hagler was the greatest middleweight of all time. Hagler never really lost at his best at all,.. he only ever lost controversially.
Marvin was a great fighter....My favorite MW of all time...followed by Monzon...
I would have loved to see a prime Hagler Vs Hopkins during his MW reign
Re: did we miss something with the hatton mayweather fight?
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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But who`s to say ricky would of been knocked out had the circumstances of the fight been completely different.
You cant claim to know that had ref different, ringsize been of a normal size etc etc, that hatton still would of got KO`ed!!
If Tommy hearns hadn't broken his hand on Hagler's mellon
If Delahoya had jabbed throughout the Mayweather fight
If Hopkins was more active in the last third of the Calzaghe fight
If If If If...:rolleyes:
my point exactly
to claim hatton STILL would of been knocked out even if the circumstances had been different is absurd.
I for one know the day will never come when ricky hatton loses a fight on points - he has too much heart and courage to not go down fighting.
Had that particular contest of gone to the final round i suspect ricky would of completely given up his defence and just gone on an all out assault to try to knock floyd out!!
I thought Collazo could have easily got the decision in their fight, although it was extremely close. Not to mention Hatton was out on his feet for most of the 12th round. If he had made it to the 12th against Mayweather and tried to go "all out", he likely would have been stopped then anyways. You've really been clutching at straws in this thread, especially since as someone pointed out, Floyd was winning the inside battle, when they were not broken up by the ref. It wouldn't have changed the outcome at all if Hatton was allowed to hang on inside all he liked.
Re: did we miss something with the hatton mayweather fight?
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p4pking
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hattonthehammer
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If Tommy hearns hadn't broken his hand on Hagler's mellon
If Delahoya had jabbed throughout the Mayweather fight
If Hopkins was more active in the last third of the Calzaghe fight
If If If If...:rolleyes:
my point exactly
to claim hatton STILL would of been knocked out even if the circumstances had been different is absurd.
I for one know the day will never come when ricky hatton loses a fight on points - he has too much heart and courage to not go down fighting.
Had that particular contest of gone to the final round i suspect ricky would of completely given up his defence and just gone on an all out assault to try to knock floyd out!!
I thought Collazo could have easily got the decision in their fight, although it was extremely close. Not to mention Hatton was out on his feet for most of the 12th round. If he had made it to the 12th against Mayweather and tried to go "all out", he likely would have been stopped then anyways.
You've really been clutching at straws in this thread, especially since as someone pointed out,
Floyd was winning the inside battle, when they were not broken up by the ref. It wouldn't have changed the outcome at all if Hatton was allowed to hang on inside all he liked.
not really, ive stated time and time again floyd won on the night because he was the better fighter and it wasnt neccesarily his fault hatton was impeded by others so often.
Thats because every time floyd came inside he ducked under hattons arms and was allowed on endless occasions to throw uppercuts and allow those amazing short shots that he throws to really pay off.
Im not claiming hatton was robbed or that he was unlucky on the night.
Just that in a different place, on a different occasion ricky is one of 2-3 men that could possibly beat mayweather on his day!!
Re: did we miss something with the hatton mayweather fight?
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hattonthehammer
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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hattonthehammer
But who`s to say ricky would of been knocked out had the circumstances of the fight been completely different.
You cant claim to know that had ref different, ringsize been of a normal size etc etc, that hatton still would of got KO`ed!!
If Tommy hearns hadn't broken his hand on Hagler's mellon
If Delahoya had jabbed throughout the Mayweather fight
If Hopkins was more active in the last third of the Calzaghe fight
If If If If...:rolleyes:
to claim hatton STILL would of been knocked out even if the circumstances had been different is absurd.
I for one know the day will never come when ricky hatton loses a fight on points - he has too much heart and courage to not go down fighting.
How is it absurd? I'm going by what I saw in the match and making an educated prediction. I saw Mayweather beating Hatton on the inside so a ref that allowed it would benefit Floyd further. I saw Mayweather standing in the pocket and engaging so your arguement for a smaller ring also falls flat on it's face.
Does that mean Ricky will get K.O'd quicker in a rematch? Of course not, this is boxing anything can happen..all we can do is predict. But with all the evidence gathered from the first fight, to call my prediction absurd is, well...absurd! ;)
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Pacstraightleft
Marvin Hagler was the greatest middleweight of all time. Hagler never really lost at his best at all,.. he only ever lost controversially.
Marvin was a great fighter....My favorite MW of all time...followed by Monzon...
I would have loved to see a prime Hagler Vs Hopkins during his MW reign
marvin wins that for me, would of been way too busy for bernard and not afraid to chase hopkins as he had a decent chin that was proven against hearns/leonard.
dont think the 2 styles would make for a great fight....but id go for hagler on points
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hattonthehammer
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If Tommy hearns hadn't broken his hand on Hagler's mellon
If Delahoya had jabbed throughout the Mayweather fight
If Hopkins was more active in the last third of the Calzaghe fight
If If If If...:rolleyes:
to claim hatton STILL would of been knocked out even if the circumstances had been different is absurd.
I for one know the day will never come when ricky hatton loses a fight on points - he has too much heart and courage to not go down fighting.
How is it absurd? I'm going by what I saw in the match and making an educated prediction. I saw Mayweather beating Hatton on the inside so a ref that allowed it would benefit Floyd further. I saw Mayweather standing in the pocket and engaging so your arguement for a smaller ring also falls flat on it's face.
Does that mean Ricky will get K.O'd quicker in a rematch? Of course not, this is boxing anything can happen..all we can do is predict. But with all the evidence gathered from the first fight, to call my prediction absurd is, well...absurd! ;)
I'm a Hatton fan and even after rewatching it I think Ricky would have been KOd late...
Mayweather was beating him on the inside and our, you are correct... Hatton was contant pressure but for the most part was very ineffective...
Hatton would have to start looking only for the KO late... Being that he was being out boxed and lost most of the rounds... Ricky would swing wildly and get caught in the same manner...
I seriously don't think the ref had much to do with it... Either a late KO or a ud for Flyd...
I hate Mayweather but thats my oppinion.