Printable View
He impressed me last night Rory, sorry I gave you a hard time a few weeks back but I didn't know who you was back then! I appreciate how a small team like yourself is planning an assualt on the light heavyweight crown and that Mack is definitely looking good in the division. Good luck for the future guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by barron71
thanks for all the support. Your a good man BILBO
Quote:
Originally Posted by barron71
Rematch with Barrio or maybe Stiglietz. If Yousef hits Naco with the punches he hit Henry with, he will send him to Colombian Dreamland.
Good to see Mack win. Should of been a UD instead of a SD. Mack has good boxing skills. But he has no problem mixing it up. I like that.
What did concern me about Mack was that his mouth was already hanging open by the third round. And Henry did take most of the final rounds. So I'm guessing stamina might still be a problem. But overall it was a good performance.
Congrats to Mack but like VD said he tired over the second half. But it was good to see him get a second wind in the 12th & come back strong! I don't think there are stamina issues more that Henry's natrually bigger size played a role... saying that do you think there is any chance of Mack returning to 168? The division is wide open & a fighter with Macks skills could make a statement!
At 175 I would love to see Mack fight Cloud!!!
Mack has blamed his 2 losses on struggling to make 168. If that's the case than he shouldn't return thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Rory cleared it all up,next time we win even bigger
Yusaf did look good, fast hands and good power, but Henry looked terrible...it almost seemed like he was annoyed to be there and was just kind of walking in unafraid of Yusaf.........and Henry paid the price for sure.....
Great news that your still consulting Yusaf Monkey hopefully next time both him and his team will be aware of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Yeah I know but one excuse is as good as another!Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMack has blamed his 2 losses on struggling to make 168. If that's the case than he shouldn't return thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm just saying that Henrys greater size seem to wear Mack down, I think if he can make 168 without much trouble thats where I think he belongs.
In saying that he came in at 174 for this fight & looked pretty cut so it may be to much of a stretch to make super-middle again...
Funny Bilbo,especially as I have Rory's number in my rolodex.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboGreat news that your still consulting Yusaf Monkey hopefully next time both him and his team will be aware of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I guess he forgot about the work we did for his other fighter huh?
Slipped his mind or something,especially the way he said I was an UNPAID consultant on this fight.
Key word is UNPAID,I didnt make buh off of this. And Im not in the least annoyed at that. I am annoyed that guys like you can have the reality beaten in to your face like a sledgehammer,and still choose to be a total dick about it.
Its bad for my buisness,and anything is bad for my buisness is bad for my family asshole
The reality of what beaten into my face? That they didn't know about your 'consultation', that reality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyFunny Bilbo,especially as I have Rory's number in my rolodex.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboGreat news that your still consulting Yusaf Monkey hopefully next time both him and his team will be aware of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I guess he forgot about the work we did for his other fighter huh?
Slipped his mind or something,especially the way he said I was an UNPAID consultant on this fight.
Key word is UNPAID,I didnt make buh off of this. And Im not in the least annoyed at that. I am annoyed that guys like you can have the reality beaten in to your face like a sledgehammer,and still choose to be a total dick about it.
Its bad for my buisness,and anything is bad for my buisness is bad for my family asshole
The thing is Monkey that you make these comments that only damage your credibility. To claim that it was your gameplan that won the fight for Yusaf Mack and that you generously donated this valuable information for free is just silly, especially considering his actual trainer and manager are members of this site and have stated you didn't consult at all.
Just chatting to someone about an upcoming fight isn't consulting. It's like Lefty meeting his idol David Haye prior to the Wlad fight and telling him that Wlad has a suspect chin and can gas late in the fight, and then if Haye wins by a late stoppage claiming that Haye stuck to his gameplan, and that he didn't even charge for his 'services'
Its just silly, Yusaf's win had nothing whatsoever to do with you so to start talking about 'we will win even bigger next time' just makes you look silly, and also detracts from the real guys who trained him and Yusaf himself.
I like you a lot as a poster TM, you're always fun to debate with and have strong opinions on things which is good but you so often create posts that damage your own credibility. There are several trainers and promoters on this board and you try to equate yourself to the best of them but in doing so put yourself below the level of Stacy Goodson who does at least manage some real professional fighters like Osin Fagan and Bobby Gunn.
You hang a bag in your shed and have some toughman competition friends come round to spar with and you think that makes you the same as Freddie Roach or Manny Steward. You are basically the Kid Thunder of boxing trainers.
All I'm saying is you'd have a lot more respect if you stopped trying to create stories or exaggerate casual conversations turning them into consultations etc.
Henry isn't some kind of tricky guy to figure out, he's pretty basic with his offense. I think Mack showed good ring generalship, he controlled the distance well, and the pace by tieing up when he needed to, very smart fight by him. Only things he needs to work on from that fight stamina and controlling himself when he has someone hurt. BTW his power is fine, he hurt Henry as much if not more than Diaconu did. Henry is just a tough s.o.b.
No contest sounds right to me HENRY IS ONE TOUGH MOTHER!! Everyone forgets MACK dropped ANDRADE!
Regarding the stamina we only had a 5 week camp and Mack did 10 rounds of sparring from the ELBOW. He wa not in MATCH SHAPE and it did show, but the team did there job!
I like DIACONU or Shawn George next? Anybody have thoughts about that?
Also Cloud wont fight us he is sitting for his chance at Dawson or the winner of Muriqui woods fight.
I think Diaconu is the bigger fish but it would more than likely have to be overseas & I'd hate Mack to get set back because of home cooking. Its a very winnable fight that Mack could use his speed & his better fundermentals to his advantage.
George is probably the way to go, has some name recognition after the Byrd victory, can be made in the states & is the easier fight imo. I see Mack scoring a KO there!