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I really like your points except this one somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
If winning more rounds is the only thing that makes a fighter better then we should completely ignore the significance of knockdowns.
Marquez may have won more rounds in terms of 10-9s. But he was down 4 times combined in both fights and that can't be thrown out the window.
But you make good points.
But Mayweather vs JMM.
I think people are shortchanging JMM just a little bit.
Mayweather's style isn't to overpower you like Juan Diaz's style was, and even then, it didnt work.
Mayweather would be trying to box Marquez so it may not be as much of a mismatch as people think it would be.
Marquez has a very good knack for finding out a fighters weakness and exploiting it.
I don't think Mayweather would stop Marquez but I think it would be one sided for Mayweather at first, then the middle rounds back and forth between him and Marquez with Mayweather taking the later rounds.
But Mayweather's style, for his reflexes and speed and everything, isnt exactly a style you come back to 100 percent effectiveness after 2 years off.
It could be a better fight then people think. And Marquez is a smart enough fighter that he wouldn't call out Mayweather if he didnt think he could win
You talk of Marquez exploiting weakness'? Only one problem. Floyd hasn't shown many and when he has i.e. against Castillo, he has always rectified the problem!Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
I think Marquez should stay at 135 and keep defending the title. I give him all the credit calling out Mayweather I just couldn't see him even going up to 140 to fight him and win. Lightweight is the perfect fit for Marquez right now. Why toy around and jump up another weight class you can easily make weight and dominate that division. He could fight all the up and comers and do it on a constant basis. Anothony Peterson,Breidis Prescott,Edwin Valero,Juan Guzman etc. He can beat all these guy's and really clean out the division and make a million dollars while doing it.Fight them all within a year and by this time next year he will have his 10 million dollar payday with Pacquiao or Hatton.
I do not think he could lose and I don't think he is running from JMM. Plus the winner would be great for Hatton vs Pacquiao. Manny wants the biggest fights available and Hatton and Oscar were and are huge events. Say what you want but I cannot blame Manny for moving on after fighting Juan, there are tons of rematches that should have been made but never happened. Chavez vs Whitaker comes to mind. And another thing I noticed, is that people are hating on Manny, why is that? Anytime someone gets big in this sport we start knocking them after controversial fights. Manny is good for this sport and it is nice to have house hold names to keep it going whether you hate him or not. If Juan continues his winning ways and keeps looking good then I'm sure Manny and him will fight again for a 3rd time and it will be a mega event.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleMore like u want JMM to lose to Shane so Manny can keep running from him....Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYeah much better for JMM... And this fight can be easily made since Mosley and JMM are with the same promoter GBP...Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
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This would be a great fight, but I still think that if Floyd return it will be to fight Hatton or Pacman. Then, retires again...
well said.:appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
why is it that JMM doesnt have a big following? seems like he is a bloody good fighter who has had some wars!
wont happen if you ask me
If floyd has any desire to return he`ll be holding out for the winner of hatton/pac and avoid marquez who i believe would probably beat both of those guys at 140pounds.
More money to be made in a mega fight with pacquiao or a wembley rematch with hatton
There is only one guy not in the ring in your discussion that is worthy of being a pussy. [let me spell it out for you "Coward" FLOYD];DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleNot as big a pussy as Manny Pac. Running from JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Better than Pac;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThere is only one guy not in the ring in your discussion that is worthy of being a pussy. [let me spell it out for you "Coward" FLOYD];DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleNot as big a pussy as Manny Pac. Running from JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
You can't prove that! no one can because it is just an opinion. And Floyd can't do it either. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockBetter than Pac;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThere is only one guy not in the ring in your discussion that is worthy of being a pussy. [let me spell it out for you "Coward" FLOYD];DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Just like calling PBF a coward is an opinion dip shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyYou can't prove that! no one can because it is just an opinion. And Floyd can't do it either. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockBetter than Pac;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Prove that he's not a coward! you can even use your grade school responses.....Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleJust like calling PBF a coward is an opinion dip shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyYou can't prove that! no one can because it is just an opinion. And Floyd can't do it either. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Well lets see. Anyone who gets in a boxing ring and fights pro is a brave man. I respect anyone who would even give it a go. Braver again are those that fight many times at a high level against other quality fighters who could do serious damage to them. A man who has fought a number of champions, many naturally bigger than him is hardly a coward. A coward is someone who sits at there computer and calls a man like PBF scared yet if u were confronted with him u would shit yourself and not say a thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyProve that he's not a coward! you can even use your grade school responses.....Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleJust like calling PBF a coward is an opinion dip shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Prove PBF is not better than Pac. When he was still fighting he was P4P #1 in front of Manny which would suggest most experts agree he is better.