Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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Originally Posted by
Dean Duke
Obviously this is a fight most posters on here dont wont to see, we all crave Pac v Floyd thats the fight and only fight we want Pacs n Floyds names mentioned in, unfortunatly Floyds got court cases to be sorted so Pacs got to keep active, now imagine if you have got a 35 million doller pay day lined up (probably more) what you going to do, take a risky fight and take serious damage that may leave you not to be at your best fighting Mayweather or do you take on some one who is still a name so the fight sells but not too risky an opponent, we all realise Shanes on the downside of his career, the mans still got speed of hand and can bang, there is a slim chance that Manny could get sparked out, although personally I think Pac will stop him inside eight rounds and if Shane does hear the last bell he will be messed up big time. Check out Haglers, Leonard, Duran, Tyson, De la Hoya or any one who has been at the top of the tree for sometime, they all have fill in fights why they are waiting for a mega fight, its the way its always been, tough on us but hey we aint the ones lacing em up. Unfortuntly money comes 1st and us fans a very distant second.
I am sure that the Pacquiao-Mosley fight will be viewed by more people than any other fights out there that Pacquiao could have taken (except a Mayweather bout, of course). Although money did come first, I would not say that the fans are a very DISTANT second. The general public are fans too and a lot of them will watch the fight.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
I like this matchup. Mosley got beat last may by the 2nd best fighter in the world. No shame in that. His last fight was just a bad style matchup. His skills cant be guaged on that fight. Seems like an action packed fight to me. Pac man last fights were against good fighters but he is the best in the world so he exploited them with his speed and movement. Mosley has a chance because he is short and takes chances. His reach is a little longer. height is a little taller. I like this one. Cant wait to see it. Mosley has a good chance. Pac is still the best until someone beats him.
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Last time Juan Manuel Marquez fought Floyd he didn't get whooped on as bad as Mosley.
He lost every round and was dropped but just didn't take the amount of punishment Floyd did.
So it's ok for Mosley to loses a one sided decision to Floyd, but when Marquez does..
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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Originally Posted by
Dean Duke
Obviously this is a fight most posters on here dont wont to see, we all crave Pac v Floyd thats the fight and only fight we want Pacs n Floyds names mentioned in, unfortunatly Floyds got court cases to be sorted so Pacs got to keep active, now imagine if you have got a 35 million doller pay day lined up (probably more) what you going to do, take a risky fight and take serious damage that may leave you not to be at your best fighting Mayweather or do you take on some one who is still a name so the fight sells but not too risky an opponent, we all realise Shanes on the downside of his career, the mans still got speed of hand and can bang, there is a slim chance that Manny could get sparked out, although personally I think Pac will stop him inside eight rounds and if Shane does hear the last bell he will be messed up big time. Check out Haglers, Leonard, Duran, Tyson, De la Hoya or any one who has been at the top of the tree for sometime, they all have fill in fights why they are waiting for a mega fight, its the way its always been, tough on us but hey we aint the ones lacing em up. Unfortuntly money comes 1st and us fans a very distant second.
The biggest Money fight and what pleases the fans the most is synonymous. What you write is an oxymoron. If fans don't want to see the fight they won't buy it.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
Dean Duke
Obviously this is a fight most posters on here dont wont to see, we all crave Pac v Floyd thats the fight and only fight we want Pacs n Floyds names mentioned in, unfortunatly Floyds got court cases to be sorted so Pacs got to keep active, now imagine if you have got a 35 million doller pay day lined up (probably more) what you going to do, take a risky fight and take serious damage that may leave you not to be at your best fighting Mayweather or do you take on some one who is still a name so the fight sells but not too risky an opponent, we all realise Shanes on the downside of his career, the mans still got speed of hand and can bang, there is a slim chance that Manny could get sparked out, although personally I think Pac will stop him inside eight rounds and if Shane does hear the last bell he will be messed up big time. Check out Haglers, Leonard, Duran, Tyson, De la Hoya or any one who has been at the top of the tree for sometime, they all have fill in fights why they are waiting for a mega fight, its the way its always been, tough on us but hey we aint the ones lacing em up. Unfortuntly money comes 1st and us fans a very distant second.
The biggest Money fight and what pleases the fans the most is synonymous. What you write is an oxymoron. If fans don't want to see the fight they won't buy it.
Completely true. To hardcore fans it might be boxing's equivilent of X Factor, but if that is what the people want then why wouldn't they give it to them.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
Mosley is a game guy with a great chin, but at 40 years old, he is in for the mother of all pastings.
The Mosley of 2001 would have been a nightmare more Manny, but the Mosley of 2011 will not provide him with any kind of test.
I predict a TKO win for Manny, with the ref having to stop the fight in the mid to late rounds.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
It's weird. I don't want this fight to happen but I will watch it. What upsets me about it is that Manny will likely have at most 4 more fights in his career, and as one of the best fighters in the world I'd like to see him truly tested. Unfortunately I just don't see Shane posing Manny any real problem and therefore, this fight is a wasted opportunity.
I watched the Mosley/Mayweather fight again the other day and i distinctly remember Nazim Richardson telling Shane after the 10th that he wasn't going to watch Shane take those shots. Manny throws a great volume of punches and is so fast and accurate that I invisage Nazim pulling Shane out.
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This is the sort of fight that will have us all saying afterward "i wish he had not taken that fight against Pacquiao" Some fighters just go on far to long and this is no exception.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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bzkfn
It's weird. I don't want this fight to happen but I will watch it. What upsets me about it is that Manny will likely have at most 4 more fights in his career, and as one of the best fighters in the world I'd like to see him truly tested. Unfortunately I just don't see Shane posing Manny any real problem and therefore, this fight is a wasted opportunity.
I watched the Mosley/Mayweather fight again the other day and i distinctly remember Nazim Richardson telling Shane after the 10th that he wasn't going to watch Shane take those shots. Manny throws a great volume of punches and is so fast and accurate that I invisage Nazim pulling Shane out.
Agreed. Shane was close to being stopped vs Floyd who isnt a banger and isnt aggressive either. Pac is boh and on top of that he is a volume puncher aswel. If anything Shane will be even worse than he was against Mora so when he gases after a couple of minutes I see him being unable to get out the way for the rest of the rounds.
Shane will show heart to stay in there but Nazim will pull him out and it will be a big disappointment of a fight. It will start a bandwagon that Pac did something Floyd couldnt etc etc.
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To stop Shane would be an incredible feat and should not be downplayed if Manny Pac does it.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
To add some new life to this discussion, seeing as though it's still going at the top of the thread list.... -
What if Mosley puts up a turn back the clock showing where at least 9 rounds give Pac a real run for his money, with some really intelligent, focused fighting,,, would that actually give Pac some more credit for winning this fight?? (whether anyone see's Mosley capable of that or not)
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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Dizaster
To add some new life to this discussion, seeing as though it's still going at the top of the thread list.... -
What if Mosley puts up a turn back the clock showing where at least 9 rounds give Pac a real run for his money, with some really intelligent, focused fighting,,, would that actually give Pac some more credit for winning this fight?? (whether anyone see's Mosley capable of that or not)
If that were to happen I would be delighted. What I don't want above all is for Shane to shoot his load after four and be pulled out looking like Shrek after six. Mosley is far older than any of Pacs recent opponents, been more inactive, seems to get tired early and just hasn't been winning. The omen's are ominous. I really worry that we are going to be seeing a tired worn legend of the game, sat on his stool not responding to his corner. That would be horrible.
Even Margarito became repetitive after eight, nobody wants to see Pac beat up on Mosley. So, if Mosley can roll back the clock, I would be delighted. But what I really want to see is Pac fight someone younger, undamaged, fast and on a winning streak. All of the recent opponents have been damaged fighters. He could have fought Berto, but once again has chosen someone who lost considerably more rounds than he has won in the past 4 years. There are no unbeaten names on his resume.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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miles
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
To add some new life to this discussion, seeing as though it's still going at the top of the thread list.... -
What if Mosley puts up a turn back the clock showing where at least 9 rounds give Pac a real run for his money, with some really intelligent, focused fighting,,, would that actually give Pac some more credit for winning this fight?? (whether anyone see's Mosley capable of that or not)
If that were to happen I would be delighted. What I don't want above all is for Shane to shoot his load after four and be pulled out looking like Shrek after six. Mosley is far older than any of Pacs recent opponents, been more inactive, seems to get tired early and just hasn't been winning. The omen's are ominous. I really worry that we are going to be seeing a tired worn legend of the game, sat on his stool not responding to his corner. That would be horrible.
Even Margarito became repetitive after eight, nobody wants to see Pac beat up on Mosley. So, if Mosley can roll back the clock, I would be delighted. But what I really want to see is Pac fight someone younger, undamaged, fast and on a winning streak. All of the recent opponents have been damaged fighters. He could have fought Berto, but once again has chosen someone who lost considerably more rounds than he has won in the past 4 years. There are no unbeaten names on his resume.
Well said Miles. Nobody wants to see Shane hurt. It was okay watching Pac beat up Margarito cuz he deserved it but Shane is a good guy. One of the nice guys of boxing so it would be sad to see him under fire not being able to pull the trigger. He looked dishreartened even at his best when he couldnt get going. We saw that against Floyd aswel and I thought that was bad enough watching him struggle. I thought that was his career ending beating but here we are with him about to face an even more vicious opponent who will try to take him out unlike Floyd. Bad signs for old man Shane.
What I will say though is Shane is not an easy fight for anyone. He has a whole load of heart and I appreciate that he will need more than just that but he has pedigree and is a former p4p number 1 himself. Marg, Cotto, Hatton etc werent. Atleast Shane used to be something even if he cant fight anymore. He may still be dangerous early particularly with the left hook to the body which hurt Pac last time. Also if he can catch Floyd clean then he will catch Pac clean at some point.
We are all disappointed the fight is happening but it could have been worse. As long as it lasts I think Shane will show heart before Nasim pulls him out. It will be a sad sight but entirely predictable.
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Floyd is not a banger but accuracy and speed are contents of a hurt locker. Shane was one of the best but this fight will be one that makes me wonder if Shane's fans and of course I am one of them will have enough fingernails to bite that night or does Manny finally make a mistake and blink. Floyd was too accurate and Shane was never hit so much in the past. The only other problem I have with this fight is that I like both fighters equally.
Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal
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Master
To stop Shane would be an incredible feat and should not be downplayed if Manny Pac does it.
I disagree to an extent. If Pacquiao knocks him out, or has him out on his feet and the referee stops it, then that is an incredible feat. But if Nazim pulls Shane out, for me that is to be expected. Like I said before, you saw what Nazim said to Shane after the 10th in the Mayweather fight. It's like Game said, Pacquiao is a harder puncher than Mayweather, has just as much if not more speed and is also a volume puncher with incredible accuracy. If Mosley was close to being stopped by Floyd after being gassed after 3 rounds, how do you expect him to deal with a guy who throws 90 punches a round?