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Originally Posted by ross
Who did hebeat at heavy that makes him such a great heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Chisora? Fury did that when Chisora was unbeaten and Fury was a novice.
Valuev? A lot of people thought he lost.
Thats it!
Thats his achievements at heavy.
Cruiser?
What did he do at cruiser? Lost to Thompson.
theres one mans name that hasnt been mentioned yet (as far as i can see)
im ready for it
Imo Haye would have beaten Vitali Klitshko in his last 5 years or so. Trust me, fuck all that "who did he fight" BS. I don't think a late version of Vitali would have been mobile enough.
He stepped it up to the top dogs pretty quickly and started whacking them around.
His short run at HW has been pretty comparable to Evander Holyfield's run at HW from Buster to Bowe.
A few B-level boxers, a couple of fossils, met Bowe, got outboxed.
Haye moved up and fought Barret, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora and thats it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
He only scraped past Valiev and should have lost. Did nothing but crawl around V Klitschko and cry about how he fouht with an injury, although a lesser injury kept him away from Fury. A cut eye in a fight that eill last just a round is nothing compared to losing mobility and not being able to launch your right hand (apparently...) for 12 rounds against Klitschko.
That is not comparable to fighting Douglas, Bowe, Mercer, Holmes, Cooper, Foreman etc
Wise up!
Maybe Haye had a bit of trouble getting his right hand off against "W" Klitschko because he out-talled, out weighed him by an enormous amount and is about as fast as you can get for a man that size and skilled himself!
Honestly I don't see that Haye deserves that much stick for that fight, really, I think he did alright really. Wlad vs Haye featured some of the fastest reflexes and shots ever seen in a HW fight, even despite Haye's workrate being sub-standard!
He did fucking beat Valuev pretty convincingly, I mean how else can you fight a guy like that being the size of Haye??
And Haye would not even be ALLOWED to have fought with that injury imo, it was a gaping gash! It was just incredibly stupid of him to be sparring so rough right before his fight and I'm sure he didn't deliberately set out to ruin his image even further.
And I tip Haye to have knocked out fat ass Douglas and crude slugger Cooper, UD Larry, easily UD George and then probably lose by KO to Bowe because of his chin.
Your deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Even a near 50 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev for fuck sakes!
Fastest reflexes ever seen in a heavyweight title fight? Is this the only heavyweight title fight youv ever seen?
You have to admire the Brits and their zeal for their athletes.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
They have to start on them when they're in the crib, "Listen, you little wanker, British athletes are the best, always have been and always will be." It's burned into their brains.
Holyfield LOST to Valuev. And show me a HW fight with faster reflexes than Haye vs Wlad? There would be precious few!Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYour deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Even a near 50 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev for fuck sakes!
Fastest reflexes ever seen in a heavyweight title fight? Is this the only heavyweight title fight youv ever seen?
A heavyweight with quicker reflexes than someone who gets caught and dropped by Monte Barret?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHolyfield LOST to Valuev. And show me a HW fight with faster reflexes than Haye vs Wlad? There would be precious few!Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYour deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Even a near 50 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev for fuck sakes!
Fastest reflexes ever seen in a heavyweight title fight? Is this the only heavyweight title fight youv ever seen?
Corrie Sanders showed quicker reflexes when he fought Wlad:rolleyes:
How about Mike Tyson that beat Michael Spinks?
You sound like someone whos just stumbled across boxing. Haye does not have quick reflexes otherwise how the fuck did a retired 40 year old Thompson knock out a 23 year old Haye? Haye never wanted a rematch.
Have you just found found boxing?
Have you had a picture of Tyson fury tattooed on the inside of your eyelids ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossA heavyweight with quicker reflexes than someone who gets caught and dropped by Monte Barret?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHolyfield LOST to Valuev. And show me a HW fight with faster reflexes than Haye vs Wlad? There would be precious few!Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYour deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Even a near 50 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev for fuck sakes!
Fastest reflexes ever seen in a heavyweight title fight? Is this the only heavyweight title fight youv ever seen?
Corrie Sanders showed quicker reflexes when he fought Wlad:rolleyes:
How about Mike Tyson that beat Michael Spinks?
You sound like someone whos just stumbled across boxing. Haye does not have quick reflexes otherwise how the fuck did a retired 40 year old Thompson knock out a 23 year old Haye? Haye never wanted a rematch.
Have you just found found boxing?
That's a good one, sir. Seems like it would be almost as painful as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlHave you had a picture of Tyson fury tattooed on the inside of your eyelids ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossA heavyweight with quicker reflexes than someone who gets caught and dropped by Monte Barret?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHolyfield LOST to Valuev. And show me a HW fight with faster reflexes than Haye vs Wlad? There would be precious few!Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYour deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Even a near 50 year old Holyfield looked better against Valuev for fuck sakes!
Fastest reflexes ever seen in a heavyweight title fight? Is this the only heavyweight title fight youv ever seen?
Corrie Sanders showed quicker reflexes when he fought Wlad:rolleyes:
How about Mike Tyson that beat Michael Spinks?
You sound like someone whos just stumbled across boxing. Haye does not have quick reflexes otherwise how the fuck did a retired 40 year old Thompson knock out a 23 year old Haye? Haye never wanted a rematch.
Have you just found found boxing?
Corrie Sanders was never very elusive, he was quick handed. He simply caught and overwhelmed Wlad early, awkward southpaw style and unexpectedly.
Mike Tyson, yeah definitely he was similarly reactive and swift as Haye (I did say there would be a few). But the stupid and ridiculous example of Tyson vs Spinks was definitely not one of them. "Reflexes" were very little on display on that fight. Spinks was simply a dead little man as soon as he stepped into the ring, he could never hope to have matched that kind of power and aggression.
I tell you what, watch a marathon of the whole performances of David Haye and you tell me how often he is really tagged compared with other top boxers.
So what he got tagged by Monte Barrett. Barrett is a decent boxer and most importantly Haye smashed Barrett. Since when did getting hit just a few times in a whole career compromise ones skills???