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Nigel Farage would axe 'much of' race discrimination laws.
UKIP would scrap much of the legislation designed to prevent racial discrimination in work, party leader Nigel Farage has said.
He was speaking in a Channel 4 documentary to be shown next week.
Downing Street said his comments were "deeply concerning", while Labour branded them "shocking".
Mr Farage told the BBC his remarks, recorded last autumn, had been "wilfully misinterpreted", saying he was talking about nationality not race.
BBC News - Nigel Farage would axe 'much of' race discrimination laws
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.....so no apology then? How adult of you Kirkland
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Somebody asked a question about the British political system in relation to America which I answered. That would have been the end of it were it not for your habit of turning every fucking thread into a chance for you to rant about your favourite subjects. It's you who should apologise to everybody else for continually inflicting your ignorance on us every chance you get. Now fuck off.
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Somebody asked a question about the British political system in relation to America which I answered. That would have been the end of it were it not for your habit of turning every fucking thread into a chance for you to rant about your favourite subjects. It's you who should apologise to everybody else for continually inflicting your ignorance on us every chance you get. Now fuck off.
Ah, ever so humble of you to yet again dodge responsibility. "I was just answering a question"...fine, I didn't respond to any part of your post with anything about American politics. I pressed you for an answer (which you have yet to provide me) on evolution and commented on Climate Change...that is all.
I did correct master when he called the United States a "Democracy" which we are not, we're a Republic, but you again took some sort of offense to that and stuck your nose in again.
Like a good little lefty you wanted to bring up race in regards to The Constitution, now you COULD have started a new thread, you COULD have let my comments slide, you COULD have stayed on topic after I corrected Master, but you didn't.
I am waiting for an answer about evolution, you've had precious time to study up on phyletic gradualism vs punctuated equilibrium. Along with that answer I will await the apology owed to me. Good day
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What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
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What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
Democracy quite simply put by Benjamin Franklin is "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner"
Basically a Constitutional Republic is a government run (hopefully) within a set of rules outlined in a document such as the Constitution of the United States of America and a Democracy is pure majority rule which seems fine and dandy until you're on the short end of a 51-49% split and realize you're at the mercy of the 51%.
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Master
What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
Democracy quite simply put by Benjamin Franklin is "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner"
Basically a Constitutional Republic is a government run (hopefully) within a set of rules outlined in a document such as the Constitution of the United States of America and a Democracy is pure majority rule which seems fine and dandy until you're on the short end of a 51-49% split and realize you're at the mercy of the 51%.
They appear the same thing. Majority rule even at 51% or 2 wolves over 1 sheep.
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El Kabong
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Master
What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
Democracy quite simply put by Benjamin Franklin is "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner"
Basically a Constitutional Republic is a government run (hopefully) within a set of rules outlined in a document such as the Constitution of the United States of America and a Democracy is pure majority rule which seems fine and dandy until you're on the short end of a 51-49% split and realize you're at the mercy of the 51%.
They appear the same thing. Majority rule even at 51% or 2 wolves over 1 sheep.
In a Constitutional Republic the sheep has inalienable rights: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, ability to own land. The sheep also has the right to bear arms. So 51% have the say, but the sheep is protected under the rule of law.
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Master
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El Kabong
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Master
What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
Democracy quite simply put by Benjamin Franklin is "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner"
Basically a Constitutional Republic is a government run (hopefully) within a set of rules outlined in a document such as the Constitution of the United States of America and a Democracy is pure majority rule which seems fine and dandy until you're on the short end of a 51-49% split and realize you're at the mercy of the 51%.
They appear the same thing. Majority rule even at 51% or 2 wolves over 1 sheep.
In a Constitutional Republic the sheep has inalienable rights: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, ability to own land. The sheep also has the right to bear arms. So 51% have the say, but the sheep is protected under the rule of law.
In a democracy a person should have all those rights anyway.
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In a democracy a person should have all those rights anyway.
Everyone SHOULD ALWAYS have those rights, but I digress
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Budget 2015 at a glance: 14 key points
Growth
In 2015 revised up to 2.5% from 2.4% in the autumn statement.
The economy is forecast to grow 2.3% next year before reaching 2.4% in 2019.
Rowena Mason, political correspondent: This is good news for the chancellor but he is treading carefully when it comes to boasting about growth to make sure voters do not think his work is done when it comes to the economy. He therefore argues the sun has only just begun to shine.
Inflation
Forecast at 0.2% this year and the next three years. Bank of England’s monetary policy committee mandate remains at 2%.
RM: This is helping Osborne as it means he will have lower interest on the public debt but he is still way below the 2% inflation target.
Banks
A total of £5.3bn of extra taxes to come from the banking sector over five years as banks are stopped claiming relief on compensation claims and the bank levy - intended to bring in £2.9bn of revenue a year - to be increased to 0.21% to bring in extra £900m.
£13bn of mortgage loans still owned by the government from Northern Rock and Bradford & Bingley to be sold.
Another £9bn of Lloyds Banking Group shares to be sold this year - to be used to sell down the national debt.
RM: He says the money raised from the bank sale will be used to pay off national debt and not fund pre-election giveaways in a move that may disappoint Tories fighting marginal seats.
Debt
As a proportion of GDP, 80.4% in 2014/5, 80.2% in 2015/6 to reach 71.6% in 2019/20.
RM: Osborne is now able to say his original target has been met of getting the national debt share falling by the end of the parliament – although it is still a year later than predicted in emergency budget in June 2010.
Borrowing
£150bn at the start of this parliament. To be £90.2bn this year, £1bn lower than in the autumn statement.
Surplus to reach £5bn. At the autumn statement the surplus was projected to be £23bn in 2019/20.
RM: The massive fall in the surplus Osborne was predicting for 2018-19 means less opportunity for promised future hand-outs. It is an easing of his plans for austerity that may be designed to kill Labour’s argument that he was shrinking the state to size of 1930s.
Pensions
Lifetime allowance cut from £1.25m to £1m and index-linked from 2018.
RM: This decision is a political trap for Ed Balls. Osborne poached the plan from Labour, which said it would be used to pay partly for the tuition fees cut.
Tax avoidance
To raise £3.1bn over five years.
Diverted profits tax to be introduced into legislation.
RM: Labour has made tackling tax avoidance a major campaign issue. This appears to be an attempt to put the Conservatives on the same page when it comes to stopping multinationals shifting profits offshore. However, yet more claims of raising money through cracking down on tax avoidance may be met with scepticism as they rarely seem to raise as much as expected.
North Sea
To receive an extra £1.3bn through a number of measures, including cutting the petroleum revenue tax to 35% from 50% and cutting the supplementary charge to 20% from 30%, back-dated to January
RM: This appears to undo a big tax rise on the industry in 2011 when the oil price was higher. He makes a political argument that this is only possible because the UK is still together - and could not have been afforded in an independent Scotland.
Businesses
Abolish annual tax return.
Abolish national insurance contribution for the self employed.
RM: There are big cheers from the Tory backbench for this one. It is a tangible cut to red tape that will make a difference to some of their core voters. The abolition of employer NICs for under 21s and self-employed is a bid to boost employment further.
Alcohol
1p off a pint of beer.
2% cut in cider duty and whiskey duty.
Wine duty frozen.
RM: A beer duty cut had been widely expected but it is also cheer for wine, whisky and cider lovers - for voters across the drinking spectrum.
Petrol
Fuel duty frozen.
RM: Osborne has frozen or cut petrol duty for so many budgets in a row it would have been impossible for him to put it up this time.
Personal tax
Allowance raised to £10,800 (from £10,600) and to £11,000 the following year.
Higher rate threshold raised above inflation rate to £43,300
RM: This had been widely trailed - originally a Liberal Democrat policythat the Conservatives have tried to adopt and take credit for since going into coalition. Repeatedly raising the threshold from £6,475 to £11,000 in successive budgets has also been criticised for failing to do anything for the very lowest earners who are already exempt from income tax.
Savings
A personal allowance of £1,000, or £500 for higher rate tax payers (over £42,701), on interest received on savings.
ISA freedom: £15,240 tax free allowance remains even if cash withdrawn.
First time buyer ISA: £200 saved, government puts in £50.
RM: This is the rabbit out of the hat. It is a small-c conservative policy to reward saving will please the Tory faithful and give activists something new to talk about the doorstep but it’s not a eye-catching as some may have been hoping for.
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What a crock of shit all that talk of growth is. The debt has doubled in 5 years and in the meantime wages have fallen and prpoerty is as unaffordable as ever. If there is any growth it hasnt gone to ordinary people. And the employment and inflation numbers are as cooked as everything else. If it is all so healthy then why are interest rates still at 'we fucked up and dont know what to do' levels. It's a fish tank that potentially blows the fish to the moon.
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What a crock of shit all that talk of growth is. The debt has doubled in 5 years and in the meantime wages have fallen and prpoerty is as unaffordable as ever. If there is any growth it hasnt gone to ordinary people. And the employment and inflation numbers are as cooked as everything else. If it is all so healthy then why are interest rates still at 'we fucked up and dont know what to do' levels. It's a fish tank that potentially blows the fish to the moon.
oh god how refreshing. :happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4:
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I genuinely hope this poll isn't reflective of the nation as a whole, as UKIP currently are the biggest party. Fahr-ahhhge is an incorrect pronunciation of his name, when said correctly it should rhyme with disparage, savage and miscarriage, which are all appropriate to such a farce of a party.
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Democracy a political system of government by, of, and for the people but has actually metamorphosed into a system where the politicians fool the people into believing that what is good for these crooks and their rich lobbyists friends are good for the them as well. And what do the people answer? Amen... I think we've grown mature enough to do away with these middlemen who are called politicians...
