earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

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Originally Posted by Master

none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger?

What could they possibly do, get into a Tardis?

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LOL Funny but of course not. THAT'S my point!

How can they claim and how can he BE among the hardest punchers.

They can claim, he COULD be one of the hardest punchers THEN. I don't see how it could be successfully argued that he could hit hardest later.

It was your guys here paxtom and Brockton who argued "for ALL time".

I mean let's be honest, in terms of delivery the guy could barely hit a double end bag, he was hopeless. So raw power is what's being considered right?

As you would know raw power, like punching bag power, there are guys in gyms literally EVERYWHERE who are not even proper boxers, who train most of their time simply on the heavybag, obsessed with power as they don't like the pressure of getting hit in sparring etc, aren't competitive and think this compensates somewhat for skills. These guys might not be able to fight a lick compared to a real boxer but they often develop whacking potential in EXCESS of top boxers because it's all they do all day! Helped out these days by roids and protein shakes, even a lot of THESE guys we've never heard of might hit harder.

This point is really no big deal!

The fact is that the guy was not a good boxer, he never WOULD have been a good boxer. He had a punch. Good for him!

So many fighters have said it.

Shavers was one dimensional like all big punchers who were not great. He could hit.

Bill said top 5.

"Shavers Smashes Mac In One"

Earnie Shavers {204 lbs.} wasted little time in depositing Johnny Mac {189 lbs.}
on the canvas.

Shavers landed a tremendous right-hand to Mac's jaw that dropped the Chicago
Heavyweight to the canvas only 30-Seconds into the bout.

Mac was up at '7', but looked like he was wandering in the dark. The bout was
allowed to continue, and Shavers hammered his under-sized opponent with
a series of 'Jack-Hammer type' blows to the head.

Mac did all he could to hold on, but he was pummeled with heavy-blows as
he staggered around at Center-Ring.

Shavers finished off his over-matched opponent, when he slammed in a hard
right-hook to the head, and then a follow-up left-hook to Mac's right ear,
sending Johnny crashing to the canvas.

Referee - Davey Pearl counted out Johnny at {1:22} of Round 1.

Earnie Shavers looks like the 'new' Sonny Liston, as he has awesome punching
power.

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Originally Posted by Master

So many fighters have said it.

Shavers was one dimensional like all big punchers who were not great. He could hit.

Bill said top 5.

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Yeah we've been through all that.

Bill must be Shavers cousin or something and Brockton his mistress with all their Earnie licking this past week!

As for the fighters...

- They all talk smack
- They all stand to GAIN from making this claim
- They all BEAT Shavers
- They were all knocked down and WASTED by other fighters worse than Shavers

They are OBVIOUSLY lying, and even then..

- You could not REMEMBER the hardest punches! I have been knocked out before, and you DON'T remember the hardest shots because you are CONCUSSED, OBVIOUSLY! It's the LIGHTER shots that hurt more often! Until later when your trying to chew your McDonalds with a mangled jaw LOL

The only one who has any claim to making Shavers the hardest hitter he fought is Kenny Norton.

But again..

Foreman is the more OBVIOUS hardest hitter of that era.

And Norton's brain was in no state to judge punch power during any of his KO's.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

The only one who has any claim to making Shavers the hardest hitter he fought is Kenny Norton.

But again..

Foreman is the more OBVIOUS hardest hitter of that era.

And Norton's brain was in no state to judge punch power during any of his KO's.

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Yet Ali said he hit harder than George. :)

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Max Power

The only one who has any claim to making Shavers the hardest hitter he fought is Kenny Norton.

But again..

Foreman is the more OBVIOUS hardest hitter of that era.

And Norton's brain was in no state to judge punch power during any of his KO's.

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Yet Ali said he hit harder than George. :)

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Yet Ali was able to boast and laugh after the Shavers fight.

Yet after fighting Geroge he had to make a trip to the hospital with a broken body.

Ali was able to FIGHT Shaver properly.

Against Geroge he was covered up on the ropes and unable to even fight Geroge by conventional means until he was gassed.

Earnie Shavers

Was really, not a 'big' Heavyweight.

He fought many of his bouts under 208 lbs.

Saturday ~ May 8, 1982

Reunion Arena ~ Dallas, Texas

Joe Bugner ~ 53-8-1 {33 KO's} ~ 245 lbs.
vs.
Earnie Shavers ~ 65-10-1 {61 KO's} ~ 216 lbs.

Nobody, but nobody had 'busted' Joe Bugner's ass.

Not > Muhammad Ali {twice}
Not > Ron Lyle
Not > Joe Frazier
Not > Jack 'The Giant' O'Halloran
Not > Richard Dunn
Not > Dick Hall
Not > Roberto Davila
Not > Chuck Wepner
Not > Eduardo Corletti
Not > Henry Cooper
Not > Jack Bodell {Though he dropped me in Round 14}
Not > Dante Cane {twice}
Not > Manuel Ramos
Not > Mac Foster
Not > Guiseppe 'Bepi' Ros
Not > Jurgen Blin
Not > Rudi Lubbers
Not > Mario Baruzzi
Not > Larry Middleton {Though he busted my jaw}
Not > Jose Luis Garcia

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Saturday ~ May 8, 1982

Reunion Arena ~ Dallas, Texas


Nobody but Muhammad Ali {twice} had 'busted' Bill Paxtom's ass.

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Is this what you meant?

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Saturday ~ May 8, 1982

Reunion Arena ~ Dallas, Texas

Joe Bugner ~ 53-8-1 {33 KO's} ~ 245 lbs.
vs.
Earnie Shavers ~ 65-10-1 {61 KO's} ~ 216 lbs.

Nobody, but nobody had 'busted' Joe Bugner's ass.

Not > Muhammad Ali ~ {twice}
Not > Ron Lyle
Not > Joe Frazier ~ {Though he dropped me in Round 10}
Not > Jack 'The Giant' O'Halloran
Not > Richard Dunn
Not > Dick Hall
Not > Jimmy Ellis
Not > Roberto Davila
Not > 'Irish Pat' Duncan
Not > Chuck Wepner
Not > Eduardo Corletti
Not > Henry Cooper
Not > Santiago Alberto Lovell
Not > 'Irish' Tony Doyle
Not > Carl Gizzi
Not > Doug Kirk
Not > Miguel Angel Paez
Not > Bill Drover
Not > Jack Bodell ~ {Though he dropped me in Round 14}
Not > Dante Cane ~ {twice}
Not > Manuel Ramos
Not > Brian London
Not > Mac Foster
Not > Giuseppe 'Bepi' Ros
Not > Jurgen Blin
Not > Rudi Lubbers
Not > Mario Baruzzi
Not > 'Playboy' Johnny Prescott
Not > Larry Middleton ~ {Though he busted my jaw}
Not > Jose Luis Garcia

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Look at this list of 'Ass Busters'

I think this is a pertinent topic to be discussing as 2014 draws to a close. The question is, Who has the best fan boys/nuthuggers? Is it the fanboys of the popular Earnie Shavers, the almighty Manny Pacquiao, or the distinctive Floyd Mayweather?

Please vote and leave an opinion.

Who Shaves their nuts?

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Saturday ~ May 8, 1982

Reunion Arena ~ Dallas, Texas

Joe Bugner ~ 53-8-1 {33 KO's} ~ 245 lbs.
vs.
Earnie Shavers ~ 65-10-1 {61 KO's} ~ 216 lbs.

Nobody, but nobody had 'busted' Joe Bugner's ass.

Not > Muhammad Ali ~ {twice}
Not > Ron Lyle
Not > Joe Frazier ~ {Though he dropped me in Round 10}
Not > Jack 'The Giant' O'Halloran
Not > Richard Dunn
Not > Dick Hall
Not > Jimmy Ellis
Not > Roberto Davila
Not > 'Irish Pat' Duncan
Not > Chuck Wepner
Not > Eduardo Corletti
Not > Henry Cooper
Not > Santiago Alberto Lovell
Not > 'Irish' Tony Doyle
Not > Carl Gizzi
Not > Doug Kirk
Not > Miguel Angel Paez
Not > Bill Drover
Not > Jack Bodell ~ {Though he dropped me in Round 14}
Not > Dante Cane ~ {twice}
Not > Manuel Ramos
Not > Brian London
Not > Mac Foster
Not > Giuseppe 'Bepi' Ros
Not > Jurgen Blin
Not > Rudi Lubbers
Not > Mario Baruzzi
Not > 'Playboy' Johnny Prescott
Not > Larry Middleton ~ {Though he busted my jaw}
Not > Jose Luis Garcia

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Look at this list of 'Ass Busters'

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You make a point, but the fight was actually stopped on a cut in round 2, and dont fuck with Joe Bugners biggest surviving fan in the UK, maybe the only one? But we all had our heroes, look at Ross now!

Earnie Shavers. At least Pac and Floyd nut huggers are hugging the nuts of ATGs. Earnie Shavers was a bum. These fuckers might as well go down to their nearest bus station and blow one of the homeless guys down there.