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the point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
can you bring yourself to admit the truth yet? it has already been admitted in this thread that officially antonio never cheated in combat. that means that miguel was beaten into quitting officially yeh?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
[QUOTE=TIC;1581463]the point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?[/QUOTQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
So you are going to ignore the fact he tried to cheat and prevented from entering the ring to focus on defending him by arguing what actual fight he cheated in?
There are better ways to make your point.
[QUOTE=Master;1581480]we can discuss what antonio did before the shane fight but that is a different discussion from the question i asked. the question i asked was about actual combat. i am not defending anything. just asking what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in? you have already admitted officially none. that part of the conversation should be over. now if you want to discuss what antonio did before actual combat we can go down that pathQuote:
Originally Posted by TICthe point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?[/QUOTQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
So you are going to ignore the fact he tried to cheat and prevented from entering the ring to focus on defending him by arguing what actual fight he cheated in?
There are better ways to make your point.
There should be no difference or discussion about Margarito not cheating in actual combat. He loaded his gloves and was caught out in the dressing room. That is the only reason he did not get away with it in actual combat.
What is so hard to understand about that?
there is a difference because anotnio was caught before the shane fight & disciplined for that. the actual fight with shane though was held with legal wraps. so as you admitted he officially cheated in no actual combat. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame to allow him in as he feels he is not being allowed because of his cheating. but the hall of fame allows other fighters in who may have benefitted from peds during actual combatQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
PEDs v Loaded gloves. Both cheaters but loaded gloves is slightly worse and both should be a criminal offence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthere is a difference because anotnio was caught before the shane fight & disciplined for that. the actual fight with shane though was held with legal wraps. so as you admitted he officially cheated in no actual combat. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame to allow him in as he feels he is not being allowed because of his cheating. but the hall of fame allows other fighters in who may have benefitted from peds during actual combatQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
If Margarito argument is that he did not use them in actual combat then that is a pathetic reason. He should not be allowed in because of it.
loaded gloves in combat would definitely be worse than peds in combat. you have admitted that officially antonio never used loaded gloves in combat. so he never received whatever benefits they may have given him in combat. shane received whatever benefits from peds & went into combat. shane's cheating is worse & put another fighter at a higher potential risk & he is accepted into the hall of fameQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterPEDs v Loaded gloves. Both cheaters but loaded gloves is slightly worse and both should be a criminal offence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthere is a difference because anotnio was caught before the shane fight & disciplined for that. the actual fight with shane though was held with legal wraps. so as you admitted he officially cheated in no actual combat. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame to allow him in as he feels he is not being allowed because of his cheating. but the hall of fame allows other fighters in who may have benefitted from peds during actual combatQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
If Margarito argument is that he did not use them in actual combat then that is a pathetic reason. He should not be allowed in because of it.