Ricky Hatton Vs Juan Lazcano Pick, RD By RD, Results FREE FOR ALL CHAT

Ricky Hatton afterwards said: "This was my first fight since my defeat by Mayweather. I promise to continue and to do you proud, thank you very much Manchester."

He's not exactly Mr Talkative in that brief speech to the City of Manchester Stadium.

And this is post number 6,000....if anyone needs to spread rep or anything. :p

....he might have been a bit loopy, he also said 55 fans were at his fight....then corrected himself saying 55 Thousand fans

the versus commentators appear to never get a long and kept wanting to over talk eachother.

Ricky IMO is on the downslide, floyd may have weaken his chin or he just can't keep in close the way he use to, to avoid his oppenents from getting long shot punches off. I always thought ricky can be successful against anybody if he can' sustain 12 rounds of keeping close to his oppenet to avoid them getting long shots off. Great example is the left hook he is so vulnerable to. Long wide or free open air thrown punches are what does him bad. He does great inclose though and with short punches.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Sounds like a typically shit Hatton fight. No doubt people will say it's because he's past his prime when the truth is he's always only been a B level fighter.

He beat a shot Kosta Tyszyu who quit, a result which meant about as much as Leon Spinks beating Ali. Like Carlos Baldimor his moment of glory came through good timing nothing more.

He has struggled against every remotely opponent he's ever faced, Thaxton, Magee, Tackie, Urango, Maussa, Collazo.

He's so overratted.

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Whatever you think of Hatton, to say Tzsyu was shot is a load of sh1te. Why was he shot? He had not had many fights, certainly hadn't been in wars or taken beatings (hard fight aganst Philips admitedly), he was fresh after only 1 fight in 23 months, and had just looked at a career best beating Mitchell who was on the up and favourite for the fight.

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Tszyu was very inactive, coming off shoulder surgery, coming into Manchester to give Ricky a chance because
that is the kind of champ Tszyu was.

The win of Hatton over Tszyu was more a result of timing than actual ability. Tszyu trumps Hatton in every category except for pressure.

I am not trying taking away from Hatton's victory over Tszyu. But looking back on it it is not hard to make a case that it was very circumstantial.

Ricky needs to jab more coming in instead of that silly wide leaping lead left hook.

He is past his best clearly but I'd pick him over Malignaggi still.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Sounds like a typically shit Hatton fight. No doubt people will say it's because he's past his prime when the truth is he's always only been a B level fighter.

He beat a shot Kosta Tyszyu who quit, a result which meant about as much as Leon Spinks beating Ali. Like Carlos Baldimor his moment of glory came through good timing nothing more.

He has struggled against every remotely opponent he's ever faced, Thaxton, Magee, Tackie, Urango, Maussa, Collazo.

He's so overratted.

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Whatever you think of Hatton, to say Tzsyu was shot is a load of sh1te. Why was he shot? He had not had many fights, certainly hadn't been in wars or taken beatings (hard fight aganst Philips admitedly), he was fresh after only 1 fight in 23 months, and had just looked at a career best beating Mitchell who was on the up and favourite for the fight.

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You don't think fighting less than 2 rounds in 2 years and coming off 2 surgery affected Tzsyu? The Tzsyu, Hatton (and his ref ) beat was not a prime Tzsyu

Well he had just destroyed Mitchell five months or so before.

I don't know why I find myself defending Hatton, I don't even like his fighting style.

Yeah Malignaggi is going to get slaughtered let's be honest he looked like shit tonight for the second outing in a row and was very lucky to escape with a win over a guy he should have outboxed easily.

I thought Ricky looked OK, good certainly not bad. He was hurt a couple times and that's definitely worrying when you look at a Bradley match up. But he was good, had a good activity level and was very accurate with his punches. He abandoned the body as the fight went on, I thought that was a bit of a mistake but he had the fight in the bag at that point.

Was a good performance, probably the best he's looked aside from against Castillo. He had that same demeanor but Lazcano is tough and held his way to decision. Still has power and at 140 I really don't think anybody at least in the current crop is going to beat Hatton until Lamont Peterson steps up. Bradley would be a good fight but I really think Peterson is the future of the division.

Why all the hate on Hatton ? He got stunned once or twice but he did everything apart from the KO, he stunned Lazcano a number of times. Comebacking back from a KO loss he done well, he even said afterwards how nervous he was before the fight. His entrance was brilliant. Paulie looked shit BTW, I give him the fight by a point. I expect Hatton to smash him.

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Yeah Malignaggi is going to get slaughtered let's be honest he looked like shit tonight for the second outing in a row and was very lucky to escape with a win over a guy he should have outboxed easily.

I thought Ricky looked OK, good certainly not bad. He was hurt a couple times and that's definitely worrying when you look at a Bradley match up. But he was good, had a good activity level and was very accurate with his punches. He abandoned the body as the fight went on, I thought that was a bit of a mistake but he had the fight in the bag at that point.

Was a good performance, probably the best he's looked aside from against Castillo. He had that same demeanor but Lazcano is tough and held his way to decision. Still has power and at 140 I really don't think anybody at least in the current crop is going to beat Hatton until Lamont Peterson steps up. Bradley would be a good fight but I really think Peterson is the future of the division.

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This is a good post. I wouldn't say he had a good performance by any means but you're right about Malagnaggi looking worse than Hatton and about Lazcano holding a lot as well.

I'll have to spread some rep.

I like Hatton but he looks on the slide.Literally walks straight in and that feverish intensity....Body pressure was missing. Rust ?I think Malagnaggi style could give him problems in an ugly way,Not hurt him but walk him around alot.Respect to "safe opponent" Lazcano and in the twilight of career should stay active for another deserved big fight.He lived up to his nick name and caused some panic...rocking Hatton ugly with long left hooks.

Credit to Hatton he slayed the demons of his first loss. Lazcano is an amazingly brave fighter and has earned my respect... how many other fighters would have stayed in there for the full 12 rounds....

Lazcano's style though was made for Hatton - straight ahead - no angles and little head movement. Hatton was hurt a few times trying to get Lazcano out of there - he should box but that's Hatton. What impressed me most about ahtton was his work rate and fitness. Forget this Ricky 'Fatton' stuff he dominated at a high pace for twelve rounds and had plenty left at the end. Reports of Hatton being on the slide are premature I think.

Is there a light welter out there that can serioulsy threaten Ricky ?

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Ricky needs to jab more coming in instead of that silly wide leaping lead left hook.

He is past his best clearly but I'd pick him over Malignaggi still.

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Yeah you're definately right about that looping left hook to get in. He's got to get past that bad habit.

I have thought for a while now though that Paulie would beat Hatton; not destroy him, but out box him convincingly to a UD. They both looked like crap tonight, so it's a pick'em IMO.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Why all the hate on Hatton ? He got stunned once or twice but he did everything apart from the KO, he stunned Lazcano a number of times. Comebacking back from a KO loss he done well, he even said afterwards how nervous he was before the fight. His entrance was brilliant. Paulie looked shit BTW, I give him the fight by a point. I expect Hatton to smash him.

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Who the fukk are you?

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Well he had just destroyed Mitchell five months or so before.

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Exactly, and I don't remeber too many people calling him 'Shot' or giving Hatton a prayer at that point. Same as Lacy who was the next big thing until he lost to JC and then suddenly he was just an overrated rookie. Hindsight is a wonderful thing innit. ;)

And VD, not being prime and being shot are too very different things!

The last two guys Paulie's faced have been really average fighters and he's just looked very poor. Hatton's on the slide clearly but I just don't see what other people see in Paulie, he's really not that hard to hit for a guy as quick as he is. He's tougher than he looks but I don't see some great fighter there.

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How could he not be tougher than he looks :confused:

I just finished watching Hatton/Lazscano and must say that Hatton will get knocked out again in the near future, because he just walks straight in with no head movement.I would say he beat Lazscano 10 of 12 rds but Lazscano for the most part...but made Hatton earn just about every rd. Hatton kept walking into the same counter left hook that MAyweather stopped him with.

I would like to see Ricky fight some of the guys from lightweight: Campbell, Juan or Julio Diaz, or even Casamayor

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Well he had just destroyed Mitchell five months or so before.

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Exactly, and I don't remeber too many people calling him 'Shot' or giving Hatton a prayer at that point. Same as Lacy who was the next big thing until he lost to JC and then suddenly he was just an overrated rookie. Hindsight is a wonderful thing innit. ;)

And VD, not being prime and being shot are too very different things!

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Never said they weren't.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

The last two guys Paulie's faced have been really average fighters and he's just looked very poor. Hatton's on the slide clearly but I just don't see what other people see in Paulie, he's really not that hard to hit for a guy as quick as he is. He's tougher than he looks but I don't see some great fighter there.

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Hes not,Paulie looked terrible.Honestly,I think both are off in overall showings.Taking into consideration that Hatton was coming off of KO loss....Some guys can never come back from that.Both favorites were stunned tonight.Paulie has looked on the other side recentley...but with his "style" could give Hatton problems but we have to see if tonight was The latest version of Hatton or a rugged rebuilding fight scapping off the rust....His defense was invisible ,and a tad sluggish but I'd still like to see him beat the weeve & braids off of Paulie.

good thread guys... glad i didnt bye this 8)

UK came last in the eurovision song contest for anyone intrested ;D

already given rep for the rd by rd ;)

well since Paulie looked tosh and Witter got beat i think Hatton V Bradley would be a good matchup ;)

not sure why but i have a feeling were gonna get ODLH vs Hatton sometime soon.

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good thread guys... glad i didnt bye this 8)

UK came last in the eurovision song contest for anyone intrested ;D

already given rep for the rd by rd ;)

well since Paulie looked tosh and Witter got beat i think Hatton V Bradley would be a good matchup ;)

not sure why but i have a feeling were gonna get ODLH vs Hatton sometime soon.

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I'm hoping we do

Hatton-Pacquiao doesn't seem too terrible of an idea at this point...I think Ricky would have his hands full with him

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Hatton-Pacquiao doesn't seem too terrible of an idea at this point...I think Ricky would have his hands full with him

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I really would like to see a juan Diaz/Hatton fight. I still say Juan closes his face up.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

The last two guys Paulie's faced have been really average fighters and he's just looked very poor. Hatton's on the slide clearly but I just don't see what other people see in Paulie, he's really not that hard to hit for a guy as quick as he is. He's tougher than he looks but I don't see some great fighter there.

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Hes not,Paulie looked terrible.Honestly,I think both are off in overall showings.Taking into consideration that Hatton was coming off of KO loss....Some guys can never come back from that.Both favorites were stunned tonight.Paulie has looked on the other side recentley...but with his "style" could give Hatton problems but we have to see if tonight was The latest version of Hatton or a rugged rebuilding fight scapping off the rust....His defense was invisible ,and a tad sluggish but I'd still like to see him beat the weeve & braids off of Paulie.

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I think Paulie's lack of power would hurt him badly. You can see Hatton would be in some real trouble against a sharp shooter type counter puncher with some power cause he just walks in with his head up high, or he leads with that jumping left hook and he's open for a lot of punches, especially the left hook. Its not like Lazcano's some counter punching expert with huge power and look what he at times was able to do. Paulie just really jabs and the occasional flashy combo. Not sure that would be enough.

Hatton haters would love the idea of an ODLH-Hatton fight. ;D Look at the work Lazcano was able to do at times with his left hook and then replace Lazcano with ODLH, Hatton would get hurt.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hatton-Pacquiao doesn't seem too terrible of an idea at this point...I think Ricky would have his hands full with him

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After what i just seen...that fight doesn't seem like such a mismatch anymore.

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The last two guys Paulie's faced have been really average fighters and he's just looked very poor. Hatton's on the slide clearly but I just don't see what other people see in Paulie, he's really not that hard to hit for a guy as quick as he is. He's tougher than he looks but I don't see some great fighter there.

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Hes not,Paulie looked terrible.Honestly,I think both are off in overall showings.Taking into consideration that Hatton was coming off of KO loss....Some guys can never come back from that.Both favorites were stunned tonight.Paulie has looked on the other side recentley...but with his "style" could give Hatton problems but we have to see if tonight was The latest version of Hatton or a rugged rebuilding fight scapping off the rust....His defense was invisible ,and a tad sluggish but I'd still like to see him beat the weeve & braids off of Paulie.

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I think Paulie's lack of power would hurt him badly. You can see Hatton would be in some real trouble against a sharp shooter type counter puncher with some power cause he just walks in with his head up high, or he leads with that jumping left hook and he's open for a lot of punches, especially the left hook. Its not like Lazcano's some counter punching expert with huge power and look what he at times was able to do. Paulie just really jabs and the occasional flashy combo. Not sure that would be enough.

Hatton haters would love the idea of an ODLH-Hatton fight. ;D Look at the work Lazcano was able to do at times with his left hook and then replace Lazcano with ODLH, Hatton would get hurt.

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You say it like it's a bad thing

So how bad was Hatton stunned ?? rate his performance out of 10, and how do you think he will fare against some of the top Jr Welterweights ?? if by what im reading Hatton was stunned twice by naturally smaller Lazcano, then i don't fancy his chances against a power puncher like Torres.

Hatton looks like he's finished to me BUT i don't see why people think Powderpuff would beat him...

That's 2 fights in a row powderpuff has looked terrible.. even a shot Hatton will decision him.

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So how bad was Hatton stunned ?? rate his performance out of 10, and how do you think he will fare against some of the top Jr Welterweights ?? if by what im reading Hatton was stunned twice by naturally smaller Lazcano, then i don't fancy his chances against a power puncher like Torres.

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IMO he was hurt very bad. In fact, had the ref not taken the time to let Hatton get his booties tied he would have gotten ktfo. Hurt pretty bad. guy eats punches like candy. A poor performance and from 1-10 I'd say a 5.

The refs were awful.

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Originally Posted by ICB

So how bad was Hatton stunned ?? rate his performance out of 10, and how do you think he will fare against some of the top Jr Welterweights ?? if by what im reading Hatton was stunned twice by naturally smaller Lazcano, then i don't fancy his chances against a power puncher like Torres.

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I admit he was stunned a couple of times, one looked like a low blow but I could be wrong, he was wobbled. I expect him to beat the others at 140 I mean the interview afterwards said a lot, he said he was the most nervous before that fight that any other as to how he would feel coming back from the first loss. Credit to Lazcano, he took everything Hatton threw.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Hatton looks like he's finished to me BUT i don't see why people think Powderpuff would beat him...

That's 2 fights in a row powderpuff has looked terrible.. even a shot Hatton will decision him.

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I agree with everything apart from Hatton being shot and finished.

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So how bad was Hatton stunned ?? rate his performance out of 10, and how do you think he will fare against some of the top Jr Welterweights ?? if by what im reading Hatton was stunned twice by naturally smaller Lazcano, then i don't fancy his chances against a power puncher like Torres.

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IMO he was hurt very bad. In fact, had the ref not taken the time to let Hatton get his booties tied he would have gotten ktfo. Hurt pretty bad. guy eats punches like candy. A poor performance and from 1-10 I'd say a 5.

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Damn that bad ?? how much time did he get to recover ??

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So how bad was Hatton stunned ?? rate his performance out of 10, and how do you think he will fare against some of the top Jr Welterweights ?? if by what im reading Hatton was stunned twice by naturally smaller Lazcano, then i don't fancy his chances against a power puncher like Torres.

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IMO he was hurt very bad. In fact, had the ref not taken the time to let Hatton get his booties tied he would have gotten ktfo. Hurt pretty bad. guy eats punches like candy. A poor performance and from 1-10 I'd say a 5.

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Damn that bad ?? how much time did he get to recover ??

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I'm sure the round LEGION is talking about is were Hatton got caught with body shots and was wobbling ?? If so he recovered quite quick and then caught Lazcano towards the end of the round. It weren't as bad as LEGION is stating it out to be (Even though i am a big fan) he wobbled and hurt Lazcano on numerous occasions.

He got alot of time to recover, probably 20 seconds or so. Hatton needs to buy that guy a steak.