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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
KananKrus
Congratulations to Miguel Cotto, I was right predicting a late KO. If this clown Mayorga did not pull this pathetic stunt in the 12th, Miguel could have easily stopped him just as I expected.
Ninety-nine out of a hundred, the one with but a puncher's chance goes home empty- handed. In this case far worse... Mayorga goes home an ugly loser with his manhood finely tucked behind his tail.
I'll wager he has more man hood than you.
He fought his ass off tonight, but pretty much pissed on that by quitting and leaving himself open to sly comments from arm chair warriors and cowards.
Really disapointing.
FUCK.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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ross
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CFH
As brash as he is in the build-up, Mayorga is always classy after the fight.
Yep, iv got no excuses. I thought hed wipe the floor with Cotto. I thought hed be too big and strong. I was recently watched figths of his from like 8 years ago where hes just a brawling machine that consistantly throws punches from everywhere. What we saw tonight was a 38 year old, semi retired, hesitant and somewhat tired fighter extend Cotto in to the 12th. Had this fight have happened 8 years ago I still believe the outcome would have been what I thought was going to happen.
Although Mayorga made weight comfortably, he seemed to lack any energy and wanted to sit and fight off the ropes rather than pressure and use his strength which was how he would have won.
Ya he did look a gas'd in corner after the the middle rounds and it looked like he started pacing himself after that.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Hulk
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ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I thought he put up a fair showing, but at 37 he just can't fight with intensity for 3 minutes a round and that is what makes Cotto wilt. A younger Mayorga would have had Cotto kneeling before him, but at 37 Cotto knows he can just stay on his little twinkle toes and and weather the occasional flurry. But when those flurries do cme Mayorga still looks dangerous. He knows himself that he is just too old and that's why he has retired.
The ending was dodgy and it's a shame it has resulted in another 12th round stoppage, but Mayorga did what he could with what he has left and I don't think there is any great shame in going out the way he did. If the hand really was screwed then fair enough. I'm glad to see him retire like this, part of me wishes certain other fighters could find it within themselves to do the same before it becomes mere parody. At times in there it was parody, but it was harldy Tyson/McBride. Mayorga has gone out with dignity intact IMO.
I wish him well.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
CFH
As brash as he is in the build-up, Mayorga is always classy after the fight.
Yep, iv got no excuses. I thought hed wipe the floor with Cotto. I thought hed be too big and strong. I was recently watched figths of his from like 8 years ago where hes just a brawling machine that consistantly throws punches from everywhere. What we saw tonight was a 38 year old, semi retired, hesitant and somewhat tired fighter extend Cotto in to the 12th. Had this fight have happened 8 years ago I still believe the outcome would have been what I thought was going to happen.
Although Mayorga made weight comfortably, he seemed to lack any energy and wanted to sit and fight off the ropes rather than pressure and use his strength which was how he would have won.
hahaha i'm 2 for 2, cause here come the lame excuses
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I thought he put up a fair showing, but at 37 he just can't fight with intensity for 3 minutes a round and that is what makes Cotto wilt. A younger Mayorga would have had Cotto kneeling before him, but at 37 Cotto knows he can just stay on his little twinkle toes and and weather the occasional flurry. But when those flurries do cme Mayorga still looks dangerous. He knows himself that he is just too old and that's why he has retired.
The ending was dodgy and it's a shame it has resulted in another 12th round stoppage, but Mayorga did what he could with what he has left and I don't think there is any great shame in going out the way he did. If the hand really was screwed then fair enough. I'm glad to see him retire like this, part of me wishes certain other fighters could find it within themselves to do the same before it becomes mere parody. At times in there it was parody, but it was harldy Tyson/McBride. Mayorga has gone out with dignity intact IMO.
I wish him well.
So you believe his retirement ? I do not. He is broke and still must fight. Don King reportedly took 90% of his purse from a lawsuit he won over Mayorga. Hopefully the Nicaruaguan President has a job for Mayorga in his cabinet.
I have my doubts about the hand injury and I am a huge rabid Mayorga fan to the bitter end. God it fucking pissed me off to see Mayorga quit that way in the 12th. A 12 UD loss is one thing, a stoppage is another entirely.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
I didnt watch this fight, Im just curious how would the Cotto that fought tonight do against the Margarito that PAcman fought??
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds
and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I don't think he hurt him throughout the fight. He buzzed him once by hitting him behind the head five or six times in a row, but that was the only time Cotto seemed legitimately stunned.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Onix
I didnt watch this fight, Im just curious how would the Cotto that fought tonight do against the Margarito that PAcman fought??
I think Margarito stops him again.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds
and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I don't think he hurt him throughout the fight. He buzzed him once by hitting him behind the head five or six times in a row, but that was the only time Cotto seemed legitimately stunned.
He was hurt several times that I saw from right uppercuts and more often overhand rights. Granted he wasn't hurt as bad as he was in the Corley or Torres fights, but Cotto was hurt. And in full on retreat mode. But I like Cotto, he fought well, out boxed Mayorga and landed some good clean shots, none of which hurt Mayorga until that 12th round when Mayorga went for the desperate KO and rose up after throwing his combo with his chin and the air and got caught with a great Cotto hook. Maybe his hand was hurt but it looked shady to me. Mayorga was exhausted and hurt and had enough in the end. Very very disapointing.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Onix
I didnt watch this fight, Im just curious how would the Cotto that fought tonight do against the Margarito that PAcman fought??
I think Margarito stops him again.
I wonder how much chin and steam Margarito has though after the beat down Pac gave him. That would probably be the most compelling rematch of the year.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
154....Angulo + Cotto + Alvarez + Kirkland + Margarito + Wolak (?)....somewhere in there are a couple of hellish fun brawls ;D
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I thought he put up a fair showing, but at 37 he just can't fight with intensity for 3 minutes a round and that is what makes Cotto wilt. A younger Mayorga would have had Cotto kneeling before him, but at 37 Cotto knows he can just stay on his little twinkle toes and and weather the occasional flurry. But when those flurries do cme Mayorga still looks dangerous. He knows himself that he is just too old and that's why he has retired.
The ending was dodgy and it's a shame it has resulted in another 12th round stoppage, but Mayorga did what he could with what he has left and I don't think there is any great shame in going out the way he did. If the hand really was screwed then fair enough. I'm glad to see him retire like this, part of me wishes certain other fighters could find it within themselves to do the same before it becomes mere parody. At times in there it was parody, but it was harldy Tyson/McBride. Mayorga has gone out with dignity intact IMO.
I wish him well.
So you believe his retirement ? I do not. He is broke and still must fight. Don King reportedly took 90% of his purse from a lawsuit he won over Mayorga. Hopefully the Nicaruaguan President has a job for Mayorga in his cabinet.
I have my doubts about the hand injury and I am a huge rabid Mayorga fan to the bitter end. God it fucking pissed me off to see Mayorga quit that way in the 12th. A 12 UD loss is one thing, a stoppage is another entirely.
I think he knows he is done. He can't find anymore big paydays. Certainly at this level we have seen the last of Mayorga. Maybe he will change his mind, but I like to think that he will stick to his word and look for a job.
I would have liked to see him finish too. I certainly don't think Cotto hurt him particularly badly, so can only assume that he really was hurt in terms of the hand. Fighters have continued with far worse, so there are question marks, but thems the breaks. I'm not too upset by it. I'm not in the position of the fighter, so if that's the way it ends, then so be it. All things considered he fought pretty well for a 37 year old who has hardly been Mr Active for the past half a decade.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Onix
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Onix
I didnt watch this fight, Im just curious how would the Cotto that fought tonight do against the Margarito that PAcman fought??
I think Margarito stops him again.
I wonder how much chin and steam Margarito has though after the beat down Pac gave him. That would probably be the most compelling rematch of the year.
They're both on the slide, but I think Margarito has more left and he definitely has the mental edge over Cotto given how their last fight played out. I also think he has a much better chin.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
CFH
As brash as he is in the build-up, Mayorga is always classy after the fight.
Yep, iv got no excuses.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...
Yep, that's all I wanted to hear.
Good night.
:cool:
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I thought he put up a fair showing, but at 37 he just can't fight with intensity for 3 minutes a round and that is what makes Cotto wilt. A younger Mayorga would have had Cotto kneeling before him, but at 37 Cotto knows he can just stay on his little twinkle toes and and weather the occasional flurry. But when those flurries do cme Mayorga still looks dangerous. He knows himself that he is just too old and that's why he has retired.
The ending was dodgy and it's a shame it has resulted in another 12th round stoppage, but Mayorga did what he could with what he has left and I don't think there is any great shame in going out the way he did. If the hand really was screwed then fair enough. I'm glad to see him retire like this, part of me wishes certain other fighters could find it within themselves to do the same before it becomes mere parody. At times in there it was parody, but it was harldy Tyson/McBride. Mayorga has gone out with dignity intact IMO.
I wish him well.
So you believe his retirement ? I do not. He is broke and still must fight. Don King reportedly took 90% of his purse from a lawsuit he won over Mayorga. Hopefully the Nicaruaguan President has a job for Mayorga in his cabinet.
I have my doubts about the hand injury and I am a huge rabid Mayorga fan to the bitter end. God it fucking pissed me off to see Mayorga quit that way in the 12th. A 12 UD loss is one thing, a stoppage is another entirely.
I think he knows he is done. He can't find anymore big paydays. Certainly at this level we have seen the last of Mayorga. Maybe he will change his mind, but I like to think that he will stick to his word and look for a job.
I would have liked to see him finish too. I certainly don't think Cotto hurt him particularly badly, so can only assume that he really was hurt in terms of the hand. Fighters have continued with far worse, so there are question marks, but thems the breaks. I'm not too upset by it. I'm not in the position of the fighter, so if that's the way it ends, then so be it. All things considered he fought pretty well for a 37 year old who has hardly been Mr Active for the past half a decade.
You sir are an optimist. ;D
And one of my favorite saddo posters God bless ya.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Mayorga quit! The massive hit from Cotto's left hook is the culprit.
To quit as Mayorga did is as sissy as can be. He spent half his camp wasting time in ridiculing good people and good ambassadors of the sport at that, only to show a total surrender at the first sign on goin' on a horizontal exit on this one.
It's funny, how losers go high and mighty just so that they'd make up and save face from bold predictions gone embarassingly to mirror hollowed minds!
I guess the high road makes me a loser in all activity in the bashing and in the name calling action to which I do not envision myself to get involved in.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and that's gonna be filed under.. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN ASS WHOOPING, Mayorga won a single round on my card and only "effective" shots he landed usually were behind the head, either way ross...suck my dick hahaha
funniest shit was the only thing that ross talked about leading into this fight was that Cotto was a quitter and Mayorga was gonna force him to quit, ohhh the irony
Mayorga won 4 rounds and hurt Cotto throughout the fight. He fought his heart out and tried to get Cotto into a brawl but Cotto knew better and chose to box and run and jab.
After that, Mayorga came out in the 12th knowing he needed a knockout and was behind, got caught with a great hook, then proceeded to shit and piss all over everything he did tonight and QUIT.
Absolutely heartbreaking and disheartening to watch.
Mayorga failed. Again. For the last time.
IF he had gone the distance then that would have been something. But NO, he chose to FUCKING QUIT...:-\
I don't blame Mayorga for quitting. Hell... after that flush left hook landed, I'm sure he wanted no part of Cotto. The truly ironic thing here is... and I'm siding with El Terrible on this one... is that had it been Cotto that quit for the same reason... we would've never heard the end of it.
Matter of fact, where the f*ck is Ross?!? He's the one who's bent on calling Miguel a quitter. What about now, f*cking Ross? Who quit tonight? Double standards are a bitch, man.
;)
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
KananKrus
Mayorga quit! The massive hit from Cotto's left hook is the culprit.
To quit as Mayorga did is as sissy as can be. He spent half his camp wasting time in ridiculing good people and good ambassadors of the sport at that, only to show a total surrender at the first sign on goin' on a horizontal exit on this one.
It's funny, how losers go high and mighty just so that they'd make up and save face from bold predictions gone embarassingly to mirror hollowed minds!
I guess the high road makes me a loser in all activity in the bashing and in the name calling action to which I do not envision myself to get involved in.
The fact that your a virgin who has never put on the gloves and had a fight himself makes you a loser.
The fact that Mayorga, a 10 to 1 under dog, fought his heart out tonight makes him the opposite of a sissy. He's the former welterweight champion of the world. He's a warrior.
He did disapoint me tonight, hand injury or not, but he gave Cotto a hell of a fight.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Just saw the fight, that was a bizarre ending. Was it a left hook and then Mayorga looks at his left hand as he takes a knee. Weird. Mayorga continued on and did throw that same hand. I dont know what happen there. I knew Cotto would beat him up though.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
KananKrus
Mayorga quit! The massive hit from Cotto's left hook is the culprit.
To quit as Mayorga did is as sissy as can be. He spent half his camp wasting time in ridiculing good people and good ambassadors of the sport at that, only to show a total surrender at the first sign on goin' on a horizontal exit on this one.
It's funny, how losers go high and mighty just so that they'd make up and save face from bold predictions gone embarassingly to mirror hollowed minds!
I guess the high road makes me a loser in all activity in the bashing and in the name calling action to which I do not envision myself to get involved in.
Come on now, I doubt any of the Mayorga backers would have actually put money on him winning. So you picked a guy who was what, a 10 to 1 favorite to win, you are supposed to be a expert now? You talk about a high road, right after you basically do what you say your're above doing....lol.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
Just saw the fight, that was a bizarre ending. Was it a left hook and then Mayorga looks at his left hand as he takes a knee. Weird. Mayorga continued on and did throw that same hand. I dont know what happen there. I knew Cotto would beat him up though.
The left hook to the right side of the jaw must've sent a jolt of electricity through the arm and into the left hand. Only explanation I can figure.
:D
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fan johnny
Dude, The man just used his reasoning because he was obviously hurt. It may have looked like he quit because of the left but he wasn't out on his feet or anything like that. He was very coherent. Nothing about it was pathetic.
A man with so much brashness and malice towards Cotto as Mayorga carried himself, to quit in that manner and deprive Cotto his just due, his sense of redemption from this ridicule, is unacceptable.
Ricardo should have tried harder to back his big talk with a bang, wether it was Cotto's or his'. Whimpering demurely at the first sign of danger and just within a grasp of the final bell is inconceivable coming out of that drama.
Just my two cents Johnny, just MHO.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
I don't think Mayorga "put up a hell of a fight", he spent most of his time saying Cottos shots didnt hurt him instead of actually throwing his own shots. Was a pretty shitty effort by him if you ask me. Cotto didnt do what ODLH and Tito did, he just stayed back and jabbed and kept his distance. He may have gotten the tko earlier if he actually did what Mayorga wanted.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Nothing worse than waking up knowing you slept throught a fight. FUCK!
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Congrats to Miguel what a left hook!!! But Miguel should go back down to welter he is small for junior middle seriously.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
I want Ross in here owning up to all his shit talk. But as I accurately predicted, he's nowhere to be found.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Kinda hard to call a guy a quitter after taking a 11+ round whipping and plugging forward throwing wild bricks of his own. Tko'd yeh...but 'quit' nah. If a guy looks to ref, waves his hand around after clear knee caving left hook, isn't that even more impressive for Cotto or any fighter, in a twisted way. I thought Cotto fought a very compact smart fight, solid counters from beginning to end.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Spicoli
Kinda hard to call a guy a quitter after taking a 11+ round whipping and plugging forward throwing wild bricks of his own. Tko'd yeh...but 'quit' nah. If a guy looks to ref, waves his hand around after clear knee caving left hook, isn't that even more impressive for Cotto or any fighter, in a twisted way. I thought Cotto fought a very compact smart fight, solid counters from beginning to end.
I'm not much into calling fighters quitters, and I'd rather just say that Cotto kicked his ass. However, it burns me when Cotto is accused of quitting against Margarito, when his nose had been broken by "now suspect" gloves and had his face completely disfigured before he took a knee against Margacheato. And the same people who called Cotto a quitter (which is the LAST thing to call the man), and nowhere to be found to see what they think about Mayorga's stint tonight. To be honest, none of the replays showed him hurting his hand, and the timing was kind of suspect, 'cause he had just taken a crashing left hook to the jaw. What I hate are these f*cking double standards.
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TitoFan
I want Ross in here owning up to all his shit talk. But as I accurately predicted, he's nowhere to be found.
:mad:
He posted in here a couple of times right after the fight.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Kinda hard to call a guy a quitter after taking a 11+ round whipping and plugging forward throwing wild bricks of his own. Tko'd yeh...but 'quit' nah. If a guy looks to ref, waves his hand around after clear knee caving left hook, isn't that even more impressive for Cotto or any fighter, in a twisted way. I thought Cotto fought a very compact smart fight, solid counters from beginning to end.
This.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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TitoFan
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Julius Rain
Just saw the fight, that was a bizarre ending. Was it a left hook and then Mayorga looks at his left hand as he takes a knee. Weird. Mayorga continued on and did throw that same hand. I dont know what happen there. I knew Cotto would beat him up though.
The left hook to the right side of the jaw must've sent a jolt of electricity through the arm and into the left hand. Only explanation I can figure.
:D
haha, kind of like a heart attack. The chin got hit so hard his hand began to stiffen up. ;D
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
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KananKrus
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fan johnny
Dude, The man just used his reasoning because he was obviously hurt. It may have looked like he quit because of the left but he wasn't out on his feet or anything like that. He was very coherent. Nothing about it was pathetic.
A man with so much brashness and malice towards Cotto as Mayorga carried himself, to quit in that manner and deprive Cotto his just due, his sense of redemption from this ridicule, is unacceptable.
Ricardo should have tried harder to back his big talk with a bang, wether it was Cotto's or his'. Whimpering demurely at the first sign of danger and just within a grasp of the final bell is inconceivable coming out of that drama.
Just my two cents Johnny, just MHO.
I take nothing away from Cotto, It was a good win. He showed us a lot of confidence, something he's been lacking in the later rounds. His skill and staying power were all together in this fight.
It was a very weird reaction to that left hit to watch. At first it looked like a great left put Mayorga down and out on the knee. But seeing him on the knee, he looked strong and did not look like he was suffering from the blow to the head. It looked like he was favoring the left wrist. Looking at the replay if seemed to confirm my first thoughts that it was the left that hurt him. It was obvious he thought about it for half a second when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue and he did, true to his nature and I imagine he said fuck it!, (fuck the thumb) and lets go. He then proceed to throw that left as normal. He didn't get hit with a good shot from Cotto again and he said in the interview, I just couldn't make a fist.
The mans has guts and is overly an "A Type" personality. I like watch his fights because they are very entertaining. I not a big fan, I just like his antics. I'm a bigger fan of Cotto. I think your reading way too much into what he did. He obviously doesn't have that kind of complex thinking in the ring you are supposing. I doubt he's doing anything in the ring about 'thought' other than conditioned reflex and desire to win.
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Dude, The man just used his reasoning because he was obviously hurt. It may have looked like he quit because of the left but he wasn't out on his feet or anything like that. He was very coherent. Nothing about it was pathetic.
A man with so much brashness and malice towards Cotto as Mayorga carried himself, to quit in that manner and deprive Cotto his just due, his sense of redemption from this ridicule, is unacceptable.
Ricardo should have tried harder to back his big talk with a bang, wether it was Cotto's or his'. Whimpering demurely at the first sign of danger and just within a grasp of the final bell is inconceivable coming out of that drama.
Just my two cents Johnny, just MHO.
I take nothing away from Cotto, It was a good win. He showed us a lot of confidence, something he's been lacking in the later rounds. His skill and staying power were all together in this fight.
It was a very weird reaction to that left hit to watch. At first it looked like a great left put Mayorga down and out on the knee. But seeing him on the knee, he looked strong and did not look like he was suffering from the blow to the head. It looked like he was favoring the left wrist. Looking at the replay if seemed to confirm my first thoughts that it was the left that hurt him. It was obvious he thought about it for half a second when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue and he did, true to his nature and I imagine he said fuck it!, (fuck the thumb) and lets go. He then proceed to throw that left as normal. He didn't get hit with a good shot from Cotto again and he said in the interview, I just couldn't make a fist.
The mans has guts and is overly an "A Type" personality. I like watch his fights because they are very entertaining. I not a big fan, I just like his antics. I'm a bigger fan of Cotto. I think your reading way too much into what he did. He obviously doesn't have that kind of complex thinking in the ring you are supposing. I doubt he's doing anything in the ring about 'thought' other than conditioned reflex and desire to win.
Unlike some ignorant posters do with Cotto, I don't normally label ANY fighter a quitter. I'm not the one in the ring taking punches and suffering injuries. However, you and I must've seen different left hooks. The one I saw clearly put Mayorga down and hurt him. Remember, it's not the first punch Mayorga had taken during the fight. Cotto had been peppering Mayorga all night with rights and lefts to the head. So it's only natural that the left hook in the 12th round (you know.... the round where Ross says Cotto wilts) would hurt Mayorga and put him down. And make no mistake about it, Mayorga WAS hurt. The left hook is Cotto's best punch and it caught Mayorga flush. About his wrist/thumb/hand/whatever? I saw plenty of replays and did not see the injury occur. Not doubting Mayorga's resolve, but........ he WAS on his way to getting KTFO'ed one way or another.
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I'll be damned... I got one right! LOL!
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It was a great fight like Tiger vs Lion.
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Re: Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread
Here in Puerto Rico I get the benefit of reading the local press and the coverage they give our boxers. Interestingly enough, the focus lately has been on the general fan perception of Cotto. Beginning with his fight vs. Mayorga. Some fans (such as myself) were very satisfied with the win… while others were not. I read a columnist’s take in a local newspaper where he felt Cotto was less than impressive and should’ve disposed of Mayorga before the 12th round, and with greater ease. Then, there’s the general perception of Cotto the person.
Personally, I think Cotto is a tremendous boxer, with a vast amount of skills, a resume worthy of comparison with the best fighters we've had over the years, and now a terrific trainer in Emanuel Stewart. I thought his TKO over Mayorga was very impressive, and I thought he looked good all around. While almost 38, Mayorga remains a dangerous opponent who throws wild shots from all over. He had trained as much as ever for this fight, his alleged physical ailments were in the past (as per Ricardo himself).... no excuses. And obviously Mayorga is naturally the bigger and perhaps stronger man. Cotto himself is pleased with the results, as he has stated in the press. I felt he exercised the necessary caution during the early rounds as to not get caught with a wild punch that could put him in trouble. As the fight wore on, he took control, until the TKO came in the 12th. Which by the way, also answered questions about his stamina, probably due in great part to Stewart's coaching and tutelage.
But... you'd be surprised at the amount of criticism Cotto gets here on the island. Not from everybody, mind you. Cotto has plenty of fans here in Puerto Rico. But the adulation is nowhere near the amount it was for Felix Trinidad when he was fighting. And in a way I think it's kind of sad. People want to compare Cotto to Trinidad both in and out of the ring. And that's not fair. Tito was engaging, fan-friendly, etc, etc. I remember his demeanor when he went into the ring. He was always smiling, and you could tell he loved fighting. That, plus his enormous success, made him a fan favorite. Hell... I myself was always a huge Tito fan (hence the nickname) and still am. I also think Tito's resume is still and will always be better than Cotto's.
But people have Cotto pegged all wrong. Just because he's more serious and smiles very little (he's also not that fan-friendly), doesn't make him a bad person. That's just his personality. It also doesn't help that he came onto the scene immediately after Tito. Obviously the comparisons are inevitable, 'cause the same generation of fans is seeing both fighters.
To me, Cotto is a professional. He goes about his business, carries himself well in the public eye, doesn't trash-talk anybody (Tito never did, either), and gives it his all out there in the ring. What more can a fan ask of a fighter? He might not sign as many autographs as Tito did, or may not be as engaging as Tito in public.... but so what? He represents our island very well, IMO, and deserves all the credit in the world.
I've also noticed a change in Cotto's perception right here on the forum. Some years ago Cotto was not highly regarded. I had seen Cotto's fights from the very beginning and always knew he was headed for stardom. Over time, however, I've seen Cotto become a favorite of many in the forum, and that makes me feel good. No one is liked by everyone, though, and that's a fact of life. All boxers will have their "haters", and that's to be expected.
Anyway... didn't mean to ramble so much, but I thought I'd share some perspectives from Cotto's local fans.
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Say it again...you truely do not see a fight until its on a wide screen on the wall in the comfort of your living room ;D Showtime replaying it now....Cotto might have to go heavyweight if he wants anymore ink on his body!
Edit, respects to Mayorga but Showtime team was taking for a ride with such a non-story in the hurt hand. Had zero to do with anything
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After watching again tarver called it right . Cotto caught him so good on the chin that it broke his wrist