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When one of the founders of BLM (the organization) states openly and proudly "We are trained Marxists" I take them at their word. When they say "defund" or "abolish" the police, I take them at their word.
I want 100% of everyone to be offered the opportunity to live as good of a life as I have or even better. Marxism won't provide that and one doesn't need to look very hard to see what Marxism will bring. Marxism doesn't build, it doesn't create, it destroys...what's happening in Portland and Minneapolis and Seattle isn't "creation" it's not even "protesting" it's violent revolt which is being aided and abetted by the local leaders.
It is what it is.
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El Kabong
When one of the founders of BLM (the organization) states openly and proudly "We are trained Marxists" I take them at their word. When they say "defund" or "abolish" the police, I take them at their word.
I want 100% of everyone to be offered the opportunity to live as good of a life as I have or even better. Marxism won't provide that and one doesn't need to look very hard to see what Marxism will bring. Marxism doesn't build, it doesn't create, it destroys...what's happening in Portland and Minneapolis and Seattle isn't "creation" it's not even "protesting" it's violent revolt which is being aided and abetted by the local leaders.
It is what it is.
:rolleyes::vd:
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NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
When one of the founders of BLM (the organization) states openly and proudly "We are trained Marxists" I take them at their word. When they say "defund" or "abolish" the police, I take them at their word.
I want 100% of everyone to be offered the opportunity to live as good of a life as I have or even better. Marxism won't provide that and one doesn't need to look very hard to see what Marxism will bring. Marxism doesn't build, it doesn't create, it destroys...what's happening in Portland and Minneapolis and Seattle isn't "creation" it's not even "protesting" it's violent revolt which is being aided and abetted by the local leaders.
It is what it is.
:rolleyes::vd:
Oh that's what you keyed on? I guess you missed the other part
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
When one of the founders of BLM (the organization) states openly and proudly "We are trained Marxists" I take them at their word. When they say "defund" or "abolish" the police, I take them at their word.
I want 100% of everyone to be offered the opportunity to live as good of a life as I have or even better. Marxism won't provide that and one doesn't need to look very hard to see what Marxism will bring. Marxism doesn't build, it doesn't create, it destroys...what's happening in Portland and Minneapolis and Seattle isn't "creation" it's not even "protesting" it's violent revolt which is being aided and abetted by the local leaders.
It is what it is.
:rolleyes::vd:
Oh that's what you keyed on? I guess you missed the other part
Well that is admirable of you, Lyle. Now Marxism may or may not provide that, it isnt measured by the word Marxism but by the proper implemetation of it. Imean there are plenty of "democracies" where it aint very democratic, but that doesnt mean democracy is a bad thing.
There, so I keyed in on you on your altruism and that is admirable. And you're right, there is no creation in the Pac NW, it seems to be a lot of piling on and mixed messages up there.
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NoSavingByTheBell
Well that is admirable of you, Lyle. Now Marxism may or may not provide that, it isnt measured by the word Marxism but by the proper implemetation of it. Imean there are plenty of "democracies" where it aint very democratic, but that doesnt mean democracy is a bad thing.
There, so I keyed in on you on your altruism and that is admirable. And you're right, there is no creation in the Pac NW, it seems to be a lot of piling on and mixed messages up there.
How does Marxism come about? Does it come in a vote? Or does it come in a violent revolution? How does it look like it's coming?
The people whose voices need to be heard have long been pushed to the back and their cause usurped by violent Marxist thugs and BLM INC has aided and abetted that as well as Antifa.
So, let's get back on topic shall we? Black Lives Matter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcowBmFIiyo
Do THOSE lives matter?
Did this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkeiTFsv1Y
The list is growing every single day and who is to stop it? Social Workers? BLM INC? Where are they? Where the fuck is BLM INC when THAT happens every single fucking day? Shootings up 200% in NYC and where's BLM INC? They're attempting to shut down the police that's where the fuck they are like good little Bolsheviks.
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I get, Lyle, what you're saying, and of course all those videos of the lives snuffed out mattered. But you must admit that Black Lives Matter is a thought process and an idea which has made the issues more known and out in the open for public debate and real change. A lot of change lately would either not have happened at all or would have happened much later on down the road; it has raised awareness and really brought painful issues to the forefront, and for that it is a good thing.
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El Kabong
Breibart. Oh...... ok.
The initial quote from Breibart:
"The Black Lives Matter movement filed a lawsuit in federal court on Thursday to prevent President Donald Trump from sending 200 federal law enforcement officials to help Mayor Lori Lightfoot fight surging crime in the city."
Wow.... sounds terrible.
Let's check in on another source.
Initial quote from ABC Eyewitness News in Chicago:
"A collection of Chicago activist groups want a judge to block federal agents sent to the city to combat violent crime by President Donald Trump from interfering in or policing protests, arguing in a lawsuit filed Thursday that that the surge will inhibit residents' ability to hold demonstrations."
Whoa! Sounds a lot different.
So the suit is actually to keep the federal agents from "interfering in or policing protests." Ok.
Another quote from that article:
"The lawsuit also asks a judge to prevent agents in Chicago from making arrests or detaining people without probable cause and to require agents to identify themselves and their agency before taking either action and explain why someone is being arrested."
News bias is a terrible thing.
I'm not going to comment further on this at the time....... as I think further comment on my part is unnecessary.
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Don't need BML or any other 'group' protest to highlight the glaring off the rails Government overreach and trampling of Constitution and State by this Admin. Since the EO in June and Barr casting the dye of 'extremes' it was a rapid ratcheting up of Federal interjection and took one news cycle to meld any and all political opposition and dissenting voices under the same crutch of insurrection commie. Embarrassing how many are rolling over with tickled arses in the air for these Authoritarian minded propaganda stunts that are guaranteed to undermine local Governments and grow movements and spill into the streets. They're counting on it..
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TitoFan
Breibart. Oh...... ok.
The initial quote from Breibart:
"The Black Lives Matter movement filed a lawsuit in federal court on Thursday to prevent President Donald Trump from sending 200 federal law enforcement officials to help Mayor Lori Lightfoot fight surging crime in the city."
Wow.... sounds terrible.
Let's check in on another source.
Initial quote from ABC Eyewitness News in Chicago:
"A collection of Chicago activist groups want a judge to block federal agents sent to the city to combat violent crime by President Donald Trump from interfering in or policing protests, arguing in a lawsuit filed Thursday that that the surge will inhibit residents' ability to hold demonstrations."
Whoa! Sounds a lot different.
So the suit is actually to keep the federal agents from "interfering in or policing protests." Ok.
Another quote from that article:
"The lawsuit also asks a judge to prevent agents in Chicago from making arrests or detaining people without probable cause and to require agents to identify themselves and their agency before taking either action and explain why someone is being arrested."
News bias is a terrible thing.
I'm not going to comment further on this at the time....... as I think further comment on my part is unnecessary.
Oh so it's news bias is it? Well let's check on some other sources and see just what the heck is happening in Chicago right now shall we?
Chicago Murders and Shootings Up, Overall Crime Down Halfway Through 2020, Police Say
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...e-say/2298155/
Six months into the year, 329 people have been killed in Chicago, an increase of about 34% from the 246 homicides during the same period last year, according to police. Shootings in that period rose by about 42%, from 978 in 2019 to 1384 in 2020.
Homicides up 34% in CHICAGO a place previously called "ChIraq" due to the violence in the city. And shootings rose by 42%. Now I wonder who golly gee gosh darn, just WHO is getting shot and killed there?
Crime Has Declined Overall During The Pandemic, But Shootings And Killings Are Up
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/20/89241...illings-are-up
Chicago Gun Violence Spikes and Increasingly Finds the Youngest Victims
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/u...shootings.html
Nine children under the age of 18 have been shot dead in Chicago since June 20.
Trump announces 'surge' of federal officers to Chicago as he campaigns on 'law and order' mantle
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/polit...que/index.html
Using ominous rhetoric and dark language to describe cities run by Democrats as rife with crime and violence, Trump suggested Wednesday he had little option but to take steps those leaders haven't to save innocent lives.
"No mother should ever have to cradle her dead child in her arms simply because politicians refused to do what is necessary to secure their neighborhood and to secure their city," he said during a mid-afternoon event in the East Room.
Trump's campaign has increasingly turned to dark themes of violence and chaos as it seeks to falsely paint his Democratic rival Joe Biden as anti-police. Since protests spread throughout the country following the murder of George Floyd, Trump has worked to cultivate a tough-on-crime message that includes the federal law enforcement efforts now underway.
Speaking at the same event as Trump, Attorney General Bill Barr criticized what he called "extreme reactions that have demonized police" in the wake of Floyd's killing, which he blamed for "a significant increase in violent crime in many cities."
Trump was announcing the expansion of the Operation Legend initiative, a Justice Department program first established in Kansas City earlier this month that utilizes federal law enforcement officers from the FBI, US Marshals Service, Drug Enforcement Administration and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to combat violent crime.
Trump said he was dispatching additional federal law enforcement into other American cities, including Chicago, to tamp down on "heinous crimes of violence."
Surely you can read past CNN's reporting slant using the term "ominous" & "dark"...seems The President wishes for fewer children to be murdered and for property not to be wantonly destroyed by mobs. But hey I guess he just has a hard on for locking people up...people who are just "protesting" instead of "committing heinous crimes of violence"
https://youtu.be/CMKLyUC4Xec
28 dead...non violent protests "mostly peaceful" they said.
I don't have to look very far or very hard to find violent rioters. It's far from peaceful and in Chicago it's not rioters or protesters that is the concern it's malicious violent activity which statistically is on a hell of an increase AND if Trump sat back and did nothing what do you think would be the narrative? It would be "This is Donald Trump's America, he allows this to occur" so he's sending in federal law enforcement because they hopefully won't be hamstrung by the mayors who are participating and encouraging this bullshit.
I spoke with my good buddy who is from Portland last night...he's ashamed and embarrassed of how his city has responded. He's no die hard Trumper either, he's more of a "Don't make me vote for this guy, don't make me, I don't want to...awww shit I've got no other choice" kind of voter and he's fucking PISSED at his city and it's shitdick Mayor.
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@TitoFan https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/sta...808325120?s=20
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Don't need BML or any other 'group' protest to highlight the glaring off the rails Government overreach and trampling of Constitution and State by this Admin. Since the EO in June and Barr casting the dye of 'extremes' it was a rapid ratcheting up of Federal interjection and took one news cycle to meld any and all political opposition and dissenting voices under the same crutch of insurrection commie. Embarrassing how many are rolling over with tickled arses in the air for these Authoritarian minded propaganda stunts that are guaranteed to undermine local Governments and grow movements and spill into the streets. They're counting on it..
It IS an insurrection and it has been since 2016.
I'm quite shocked how many Democrats are suggesting that IF Trump were to lose in November (which he certainly won't) he wouldn't vacate the White House. Seriously? After the bogus FBI investigation and the 3 years worth of bullshit we had to sit through all for what? But now you're telling me "Akshully, Trump won't accept the election results" ....the fucking balls on those people.
This ain't about "peaceful protests" and everyone fucking knows it. Peaceful protests don't involve destruction of property or mob violence. These people aren't harmed by police with no cause. That guy shot in the head with the less lethal round....yeah he was ordered to disperse because there was a riot and yet he not only stayed, but threw a smoke canister back in the direction of the police. Should he have been shot in the head? No, but does every single shot go where you want it to? Nope. I guess there have been 0 police injuries due to rioters...or would that make the news these days?
I'm ok with feds being sent in because I'd appreciate if the violence stopped because I care about my countrymen regardless their color or gender or religion or sexual preference. But hey if the protests NEED to be violent then those aren't really "protests" are they? Chicago has been out of control a long time, but for other large cities to ALSO enjoy massive spikes in crime, yeah I'm not excited about that. How's New Orleans doing in regards to crime?
New Orleans homicides increase this year compared to last despite quarantine
https://www.fox8live.com/2020/06/16/...te-quarantine/
After a violent weekend in New Orleans, the NOPD says shootings and homicides increased by 58 percent compared to the same timeframe last year.
Oooh sounds lovely
Judging from how this year has gone so far I wouldn't say Martial Law is out of the realm of possibility but make no mistake I sure as shit ain't calling for it. I'm ready for shit to go back to normal, I've BEEN ready, but I guess people still want to protest (which is allowed) but I can't go to a bar? They can riot and burn down city blocks, MURDER people, and I can't go to Church or the gym. I guess I better join in the violence then....sure as shit ain't anything else to do.
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Lyle...... you and I are both in agreement on just how much a "shithole" parts of Chicago are right now. That point is not in contention.
In fact..... Trump's sending of Federal agents to Chicago to help with the runaway crime should be more than welcome. Once again..... that's not the point in contention.
What peaceful protesters in Chicago (yes..... they DO exist) want is some sort of assurance that they can protest PEACEFULLY and won't be accosted by Federal agents.
Surely that's not too much to ask.
Let's be honest here.
Both sides are equally adept and persistent in pushing their respective agendas. This isn't a one-way street.
Is it out of the realm of possibility that maybe some people (blacks AND whites) want to conduct peaceful protests in Chicago because TO THEM this racial issue (ignited by George Floyd) is STILL worth protesting over??
As long as we continue denying the existence of a middle ground on BOTH sides..... we're never going to get anywhere as a society trying to heal its wounds.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Lyle...... you and I are both in agreement on just how much a "shithole" parts of Chicago are right now. That point is not in contention.
In fact..... Trump's sending of Federal agents to Chicago to help with the runaway crime should be more than welcome. Once again..... that's not the point in contention.
What peaceful protesters in Chicago (yes..... they DO exist) want is some sort of assurance that they can protest PEACEFULLY and won't be accosted by Federal agents.
Surely that's not too much to ask.
Let's be honest here.
Both sides are equally adept and persistent in pushing their respective agendas. This isn't a one-way street.
Is it out of the realm of possibility that maybe some people (blacks AND whites) want to conduct peaceful protests in Chicago because TO THEM this racial issue (ignited by George Floyd) is STILL worth protesting over??
As long as we continue denying the existence of a middle ground on BOTH sides..... we're never going to get anywhere as a society trying to heal its wounds.
Protest peacefully and then there's no reason for ANY force....they're not "protesting peacefully" nor do they intend to.
I actually feel a little bad for the PEACEFUL protesters, but yes 100% yes there are people usurping the death of George Floyd in order to attempt some Bolshevik revolution. Maybe they're LARPing I don't know if they are mentally damaged or simply inept, but that's what they're doing...they want to overthrow the system abolish the system....are those the words of people who wish to accomplish policy? NO! They're the words of people at war against America and YES there are many of those and they're well funded too.
There's a protest oooh hey there's a palate of bricks. Nobody reports on it or asks "Gee I wonder who paid for this"
There's a protest with police attending oooooh hey a trunk full of baseball bats. Nobody reports on it or asks "Gee I wonder who paid for this"
NYPD's highest ranked uniformed officer was assaulted. He had his fucking head cracked open AFTER he kneeled in "solidarity" with BLM....so yeah that crosses my red line, I'm 100% done with it. I've gone downtown in my city, actually had a nice time, talking to people putting up murals on the plywood that covers the windows of the buildings downtown, I work downtown....my city, our problems are minuscule in comparison. I live in a city where we've seen firsthand violence in the Civil Rights era, we've had little to no issue with violence in our protests and knock on wood little to no property damage as well.
I see Portland, I see Seattle, I see NYC, I see Chicago, I see St. Louis...you know the "racist cities of the former Confederacy" and I'm sorry that ain't for George Floyd, they don't know or care who George Floyd is or give a shit how he died. They want a revolution, listen to them, "defund the police, abolish the police" who is in charge then? THE MOB...no nation stands if that is allowed. NONE.
The people currently involved in these "protests" know full well they aren't "protests" and yet they're bringing children and mothers, and pregnant women to hide behind while rocks, bottles, molotov cocktails are thrown. It's not right and it needs to be ended before we wind up with a Kent State situation. But these idiots will push until that happens it's what they want.
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https://youtu.be/RE9fVYJWcKA
She was shot in the back OMG start up the protests!!!!!!!
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when LYLE SAYS "THEY" are not protesting peacefully, therein lies the problem of extremism. That is def the lumping together of all the protestors, the hooligans/provocateurs AND the legit ones.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
What the fuck, Lyle, does that video exactly prove? That a white, fat stomach, drug addict scumbag woman tried to shoot at cops arresting her? AND??? State your case in clear English, without the drama of the sound of the gunshots in that video. What are you saying? You are all over the shop, as if that video has anything to do with Tito's excellent point about the legitimate and peaceful Chicago protestors.
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
when LYLE SAYS "THEY" are not protesting peacefully, therein lies the problem of extremism. That is def the lumping together of all the protestors, the hooligans/provocateurs AND the legit ones.
Drugged out "protester" dancing by himself.....MURDERED by Federal Law Enforcement.....
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...140827648?s=20
.....wait, you're saying he was left completely alone? What?!?!?! That can't be!!!!! STEVE told me the peaceful and the violent were lumped in together @NoSavingByTheBell...how do you reconcile this Steve?!?!?!
SHOT: Peaceful protester claims Feds shot him 6 times with bean bags for "doing nothing"
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...666365953?s=20
CHASER: Very same peaceful protester had recently fanned flames of fire to attempt to burn down/damage the federal courthouse
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...484070912?s=20
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
when LYLE SAYS "THEY" are not protesting peacefully, therein lies the problem of extremism. That is def the lumping together of all the protestors, the hooligans/provocateurs AND the legit ones.
Drugged out "protester" dancing by himself.....MURDERED by Federal Law Enforcement.....
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...140827648?s=20
.....wait, you're saying he was left completely alone? What?!?!?! That can't be!!!!! STEVE told me the peaceful and the violent were lumped in together @
NoSavingByTheBell...how do you reconcile this Steve?!?!?!
SHOT: Peaceful protester claims Feds shot him 6 times with bean bags for "doing nothing"
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...666365953?s=20
CHASER: Very same peaceful protester had recently fanned flames of fire to attempt to burn down/damage the federal courthouse
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...484070912?s=20
What are you trying to say? Just type one single sentence, what are you saying? You are all over the shop.
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
What the fuck, Lyle, does that video exactly prove? That a white, fat stomach, drug addict scumbag woman tried to shoot at cops arresting her? AND??? State your case in clear English, without the drama of the sound of the gunshots in that video. What are you saying? You are all over the shop, as if that video has anything to do with Tito's excellent point about the legitimate and peaceful Chicago protestors.
This wasn't addressed to TitoFan....
OH you didn't know?!?!?! You assumed I was still talking to TitoFan with this?!?!?!?
Steven! You of ALL people should know better.
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
when LYLE SAYS "THEY" are not protesting peacefully, therein lies the problem of extremism. That is def the lumping together of all the protestors, the hooligans/provocateurs AND the legit ones.
Drugged out "protester" dancing by himself.....MURDERED by Federal Law Enforcement.....
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...140827648?s=20
.....wait, you're saying he was left completely alone? What?!?!?! That can't be!!!!! STEVE told me the peaceful and the violent were lumped in together @
NoSavingByTheBell...how do you reconcile this Steve?!?!?!
SHOT: Peaceful protester claims Feds shot him 6 times with bean bags for "doing nothing"
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...666365953?s=20
CHASER: Very same peaceful protester had recently fanned flames of fire to attempt to burn down/damage the federal courthouse
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/s...484070912?s=20
What are you trying to say? Just type one single sentence, what are you saying? You are all over the shop.
This is a Rorschach test Steve....you follow the links, you watch the videos, you tell me what you see. Comprende?
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OK so we're taking tests now and not engaging clearly and concisely. A Rohrshach test FFS, OK Lyle. I bet you cant even answer the last 5 questions.
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NoSavingByTheBell
OK so we're taking tests now and not engaging clearly and concisely. A Rohrshach test FFS, OK Lyle. I bet you cant even answer the last 5 questions.
What are you wagering Steve?
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Some of these questions are redundant Steve. Steve some of these questions you repeat. Steve, the questions you have asked here you seem to have asked more than one time. Steve I believe that a couple of these questions are the same as you asked before Steve.
Questions 1 & 2
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
What are you trying to say? Just type one single sentence, what are you saying? You are all over the shop.
I'm saying the federal Law Enforcement aren't in Portland or anywhere else to just willy nilly hurt people and/or lock them up.
I'm saying that the Federal Law Enforcement distinguish between who is breaking the law and who is peacefully protesting and they (federal law enforcement) are acting accordingly.
Questions 3, 4, & 5
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
What the fuck, Lyle, does that video exactly prove? That a white, fat stomach, drug addict scumbag woman tried to shoot at cops arresting her? AND State your case in clear English, without the drama of the sound of the gunshots in that video. What are you saying? You are all over the shop, as if that video has anything to do with Tito's excellent point about the legitimate and peaceful Chicago protestors.
The video provides an example of what police officers face on a daily basis and how quickly a situation can turn from "ok" to "not so ok".
Yes, that white woman resisted arrest and was shot at and hit multiple times which kinda sorta goes against a certain narrative some people believe.
I'm saying the police have a difficult job and that the overwhelming majority of officers I believe are good hardworking people who just want to be able to do their job and go home to their families at the end of the day and right now society is placing a mighty heavy burden on them in terms of doing their job to the best of their abilities.
There you go, I guess you owe me a Coke or whatever the fuck Steve.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Some of these questions are redundant Steve. Steve some of these questions you repeat. Steve, the questions you have asked here you seem to have asked more than one time. Steve I believe that a couple of these questions are the same as you asked before Steve.
Questions 1 & 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
What are you trying to say? Just type one single sentence, what are you saying? You are all over the shop.
I'm saying the federal Law Enforcement aren't in Portland or anywhere else to just willy nilly hurt people and/or lock them up.
I'm saying that the Federal Law Enforcement distinguish between who is breaking the law and who is peacefully protesting and they (federal law enforcement) are acting accordingly.
Questions 3, 4, & 5
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
What the fuck, Lyle, does that video exactly prove? That a white, fat stomach, drug addict scumbag woman tried to shoot at cops arresting her? AND State your case in clear English, without the drama of the sound of the gunshots in that video. What are you saying? You are all over the shop, as if that video has anything to do with Tito's excellent point about the legitimate and peaceful Chicago protestors.
The video provides an example of what police officers face on a daily basis and how quickly a situation can turn from "ok" to "not so ok".
Yes, that white woman resisted arrest and was shot at and hit multiple times which kinda sorta goes against a certain narrative some people believe.
I'm saying the police have a difficult job and that the overwhelming majority of officers I believe are good hardworking people who just want to be able to do their job and go home to their families at the end of the day and right now society is placing a mighty heavy burden on them in terms of doing their job to the best of their abilities.
There you go, I guess you owe me a Coke or whatever the fuck Steve.
YOu said my name so many times Lyle that I dont have to keep telling you "Say my name" in the 3 x 3.
Who the absolute fuck said YOU said they were there to hurt people willy nilly? :dontknow:
Lyle, I think everybody even Denilson knows that things can turn bad PDQ in a police/civilian encounter like that one there. POlicing is a dangerous-ass job that doesnt get enough credit; that nutjob Im guessing meth-head maybe came close to killing them by firing at them like that. I'd give her 10 years attempted murder.
I agree the overwhelming # of cops are decent hardworking peeps. Even if its 80-90% though, that leaves A HELLA LOTTA bad coppers. HELLA.
Owe you a coke when you a Doctor Pepper Head.
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Get the fuck out of here with the "Burden of White Police Officers" bullshit.
Solidarity is not a dangerous word. You are insulting the White working Class as well as Black people with such a rewriting of history. We are sick to Death of hundreds of years of your cancel culture bullshit El Kabong. You can't bury your head in the sand any longer. You should never stop learning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZz-IvWjDw&feature=emb_logo
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I schooled Lyle a week ago with the VERY same point in that video, Beanz, that A STATUE IS NOT HISTORY. I didnt say to change history or the text books. But PollyAnna's like Lyle whinge. Miles is no PolyAnna but even he was angry about statues being pulled down. I DID agree with Miles on the part about law & order, to a degree, but still it seems Id say to most of those against all this and panicking: :nopity:
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
I agree the overwhelming # of cops are decent hardworking peeps. Even if its 80-90% though, that leaves A HELLA LOTTA bad coppers. HELLA.
OK then we agree that police brutality ain't the A#1 issue facing the Black community then. Good, glad we could come to an understanding.
The rest of your post has me questioning if English is your first language or if you're having some sort of fit or spell.
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Get the fuck out of here with the
"Burden of White Police Officers" bullshit.
Solidarity is not a dangerous word. You are insulting the White working Class as well as Black people with such a rewriting of history. We are sick to Death of hundreds of years of your cancel culture bullshit El Kabong. You can't bury your head in the sand any longer. You should never stop learning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZz-IvWjDw&feature=emb_logo
Nobody but YOU mentioned "White Police Officers", why would you mention that? Oh because you have a diseased mind. I think police officers in general have a harder time these days than they should. They have a thankless job which is made all the harder by spoiled professors children harassing them, violently assaulting them, and verbally abusing them.
Who have I canceled Beanz?
Oh goody a Corbyn video....is this the guy you voted for or didn't vote for or forgot voting for? Hard for me to keep up.
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I schooled Lyle a week ago with the VERY same point in that video, Beanz, that A STATUE IS NOT HISTORY. I didnt say to change history or the text books. But PollyAnna's like Lyle whinge. Miles is no PolyAnna but even he was angry about statues being pulled down. I DID agree with Miles on the part about law & order, to a degree, but still it seems Id say to most of those against all this and panicking: :nopity:
Steve, when will you understand? Well I guess you won't and I shouldn't bother responding...but it's not about YOU and what YOU say...it's about the MOB and what they are following and that's something called Marxism. And in order for Marxism to take hold there must be a COMPLETE iconoclasm so that history is forgotten....otherwise you can't get people to buy into a tyrannical system which doesn't work at all.
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Re: Black Lives Matter? Eh?
Hot topic! All this riot crap is funded by George Soros. I’ve seen these tactics used in the Philippines to overthrow Erap back in 2000. BLM is not about Civil injustice, they are about destroying society and installing a new socialist system. It’s about power and money. They don’t care about any lives and certainly not Black lives. This is funny and I love it.
https://youtu.be/xiYZ__Ww02c
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I don't follow John Oliver, nor necessarily agree with everything he says.
But I found this topic right on point. In fact, I've said as much in a personal blog of mine... and have held this belief for some time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxukOPEdgg
Ok so aside from the fact that Oliver talks too fast and is sometimes hard to understand... he does have some pretty good segments. I thought this was one of them.
The teaching of U.S. history has been a rose-colored, "feel-good" exercise for many, many, many years.
Certain events have been omitted or glossed over... other events have been misrepresented... etc, etc.
As a result, generations upon generations have gotten the "La-la-land" version of U.S. history.
One example is the Tulsa Massacre of 1921.
Some are going to claim they were taught about it in school..... but the fact of the matter is that it's something rarely taught in U.S. history classes.
See... here's the thing. There's nothing to gain by continuing to ignore the bad parts of history... the parts that make the country look bad. How the hell ELSE to learn from past mistakes?
Oliver pretty much nails it when he says it wasn't all fun and games between the abolition of slavery and the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's.
Too much is glossed over..... just like too much is glossed over or ignored between the civil rights movement and NOW.
Someone said it. Ostrich head in sand. Hiding from the past isn't going to make it go away, or even make it easier to swallow.
Which is why when some white racist-looking muthafukka stands up there on national TV and says there is NO SYSTEMIC RACISM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE US, well....... all one can do is smirk and shake your head.
Systemic racism exists..... and no amount of Dorothy heel clicking is going to make it go away.
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Re: Black Lives Matter? Eh?
Systemic racism eh? Well this fella will WOULD have been glad to hear it
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/s...170162176?s=20
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Re: Black Lives Matter? Eh?
I do like how when Americans are accused of killing too many black people their defence is, "well look at all these other people we kill!".... Like a cat presenting a dead mouse.... Bizzare...
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Re: Black Lives Matter? Eh?
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El Kabong
Well here's the thing.
First that video does not look right to me. It has a staged look to it. But the fact is if white people object to white people being harmed by the police then they need to be as vocal as black people are about police brutality. No ?
I mean they took to the streets at not being able to get a hair cut.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...76f3686c2ae912
And not being able to play Golf.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...2bd349f804a0d1
So you'd think they'd be raising hell over your link if whites being killed by police was a widespread serious problem.... No ?
But they don't. Why ? Get out and the streets and GRIND
My guess is whites will generally support harsher policies from the police as long as they mainly hurt black people.
This guy was just a white sacrifices.
Another thing you won't see. You won't see black people acting like Columbo and Kojak trying prove this Ryan dude deserved to die. You won't see the MSM try and dig up some dirt on this guy or wife or family.
If ALL people are really suffering from police brutality, then wouldn’t you think that Whites should be complaining about the POLICE, rather than complaining about Blacks calling out the police?
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Denilson3.0
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El Kabong
Well here's the thing.
First that video does not look right to me. It has a staged look to it. But the fact is if white people object to white people being harmed by the police then they need to be as vocal as black people are about police brutality. No ?
I mean they took to the streets at not being able to get a hair cut.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...76f3686c2ae912
And not being able to play Golf.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...2bd349f804a0d1
So you'd think they'd be raising hell over your link if whites being killed by police was a widespread serious problem.... No ?
But they don't. Why ? Get out and the streets and GRIND
My guess is whites will generally support harsher policies from the police as long as they mainly hurt black people.
This guy was just a white sacrifices.
Another thing you won't see. You won't see black people acting like Columbo and Kojak trying prove this Ryan dude deserved to die. You won't see the MSM try and dig up some dirt on this guy or wife or family.
If ALL people are really suffering from police brutality, then wouldn’t you think that Whites should be complaining about the POLICE, rather than complaining about Blacks calling out the police?
No as we respect the law and are not professional life victims with an inferiority complex.
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Re: Black Lives Matter? Eh?
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Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Denilson3.0
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Well here's the thing.
First that video does not look right to me. It has a staged look to it. But the fact is if white people object to white people being harmed by the police then they need to be as vocal as black people are about police brutality. No ?
I mean they took to the streets at not being able to get a hair cut.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...76f3686c2ae912
And not being able to play Golf.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...2bd349f804a0d1
So you'd think they'd be raising hell over your link if whites being killed by police was a widespread serious problem.... No ?
But they don't. Why ? Get out and the streets and GRIND
My guess is whites will generally support harsher policies from the police as long as they mainly hurt black people.
This guy was just a white sacrifices.
Another thing you won't see. You won't see black people acting like Columbo and Kojak trying prove this Ryan dude deserved to die. You won't see the MSM try and dig up some dirt on this guy or wife or family.
If ALL people are really suffering from police brutality, then wouldn’t you think that Whites should be complaining about the POLICE, rather than complaining about Blacks calling out the police?
No as we respect the law and are not professional life victims with an inferiority complex.
It is hilarious how blissfully unaware you are if your own explicit and blatant racism Al. From your Anti Abbott Giff to your peasant bullshit and your deluded idea that you in any way speak for others. You have a faux superiority complex that speaks volumes about your own insecurities. Textbook case.
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The police do a great job, pity the law of the land renders their efforts useless sometimes.
A close friend of mines son has just joined the force, rather him than me, however the pensions are good after you do a 20 year stint so good luck to him.
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Dark Lord Al
The police do a great job, pity the law of the land renders their efforts useless sometimes.
A close friend of mines son has just joined the force, rather him than me, however the pensions are good after you do a 20 year stint so good luck to him.
I think it is 30 years not 20 for their good pension. I know plenty of officers retiring and glad they are leaving.
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Master
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Dark Lord Al
The police do a great job, pity the law of the land renders their efforts useless sometimes.
A close friend of mines son has just joined the force, rather him than me, however the pensions are good after you do a 20 year stint so good luck to him.
I think it is 30 years not 20 for their good pension. I know plenty of officers retiring and glad they are leaving.
Yes if you can stand the job it is a good retirement.
Good luck to them.
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Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
The police do a great job, pity the law of the land renders their efforts useless sometimes.
A close friend of mines son has just joined the force, rather him than me, however the pensions are good after you do a 20 year stint so good luck to him.
I think it is 30 years not 20 for their good pension. I know plenty of officers retiring and glad they are leaving.
Yes if you can stand the job it is a good retirement.
Good luck to them.
They certainly deserve it for 30 years service but do not like it when corrupt officers who are caught and on disciplinary retire before they get the sack to protect their pension. It should not be allowed seen plenty of officers do that and move onto security jobs.
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Dark Lord Al
No as we respect the law
Huntington Beach in Cali is overwhelmingly White. Every summer the city host the U.S. Open of Surfing. The Huntington Beach Riot did not get much attention from the mainstream media.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...8b453d2f4fe0a3
they could not cope because an annual tournament ended. There were fights on the streets, especially among young White females, and burglary from young White males. The local news reporters and officials didn’t refer to these White rioters and looters as thugs.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...4f4ad5a510992e
https://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy...fc5e1e946ff722
So lighting a whole bus on fire and destroying people’s cars, fighting and shooting guns randomly because a baseball team won the World Series is acceptable, but rioting because of blatant income inequality, lack of opportunity and disregard for black life is not acceptable?
Only a white supremacist can rationalize something like that.
